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Naruto 477 – Elaborate Genjutsu or Something More?



So with the fight between Sasuke and Danzou well underway, let the speculation begin. This series has a tendency to keep us guessing what a character’s abilities are early on, only to pull a handful of surprises before a given fight concludes. In some cases, it even purposely leads us one way just so it can throw us completely off on what’s in store. As such, anything suggested between now and then should probably be taken with a grain of salt, even though some theories are a lot better thought out than others. In Danzou’s case, they’ve thrown us in for a bit of a whirl by having Karin hint at the possibility that his ability to elude Sasuke’s attacks isn’t genjutsu. However, both her and Madara are fixated on the Sharingans on Danzou’s right arm, which appear to close every time he uses the technique(s) in question.

While I could easily theorize that the eyes act as a chakra reservoir of sorts for his technique(s), I’m still at a loss on what he’s actually doing to fool everyone. I’d imagine that Madara has the best idea, although Sasuke seems unfazed during all the exchanges as well. I can’t help but wonder if that’s because Sasuke doesn’t feel threatened by Danzou’s techniques so far, or if he’s simply so focused on getting revenge. He hasn’t really given us any indication on what his thoughts are, but it looks like he’s pulling out all the stops by using Amaterasu right away, as well as his new hawk summon. As for the appearance of Itachi at the end of it all, any guesses as to whether this is something Itachi left behind in Sasuke or just a clever genjutsu on Sasuke’s part to throw Danzou off?

December 25, 2009 at 6:58 am
  • December 25, 2009 at 7:11 amWannabe_Otaku

    I’m not going to go into speculation about this ability because it’s just too weird – I do have my theories, but they’re not really good so I won’t say any more about them.

    However, what I would like to point out is that (hopefully) Danzo’s ability to avoid Sasuke’s attacks is limited to the number of eyes he has. I frankly don’t see this fight going anywhere much, now that Danzo has become one of the main antagonists of the series, and I’m hoping for a speedy end so we can get on with things.

  • December 25, 2009 at 7:47 amWormy

    Hard to see how Sasuke can win this when he had used 2 of his 3 trump cards while Danzo still haven’t use his right sharingan. Madara will just have to bail out sasuke.

  • December 25, 2009 at 8:22 amviral

    Danzo still hasn’t used the face on his right shoulder, so he propably has another trump card.

    Chapter 459, Page 14: Look at Danzo’s chakra-face and shoulder, it’s definetely a face, since they look the same.

    About Itachi: It’s totally not Sasuke’s work, he don’t have enough brain to do something about it.

  • December 25, 2009 at 8:24 amCherubium

    I feel like that each sharingan is like an extra life type scenario. Every time that Danzou gets killed one of the Sharigan closes, though I don’t know what ability or power enables this in relation to the Sharigan eyes.

    Itachi appearing must be another of Itachi’s brotherly loving and protection leading with a fight of Danzou and Itachi.

  • December 25, 2009 at 8:32 ammagnumslinger

    I think Sasuke’s taken Tsukuyomi (or some other of Itachi’s genjutsus) to a whole different level

  • December 25, 2009 at 9:36 amLucian

    I agree with magnumslinger

    And I’m not a Sasuke fanboy either, but you can’t deny that he’s pretty clever when boasting his hax powers.

  • December 25, 2009 at 9:52 amchisol

    I agree with the saringan being a life force. And i also think the Itachi part was a genjutsu by Sasuke because he wanted an opening, then again he might be thinking of using Tsukiyomi as he could have figured out the saringan was life force and kill him in the Tsukiyomi world countless times.

  • December 25, 2009 at 11:29 amarigatou

    Kakuzu part 2…. where the sharingans are his life support while it is activated.
    Danzou gathers data while using the sharingan no jutsu.

    I think that was Itachi himself with a limited duration (remember he place some sort of seal jutsu or jutsu on to have his vengeance against Danzou.

  • December 25, 2009 at 12:51 pmNightflame

    @Divine: ehem… the screen is a spoiler itself…

  • December 25, 2009 at 1:03 pmNymbryxion

    The eyes in his arms shoot lasers!

  • December 25, 2009 at 2:57 pmxGuardx

    My theory is that the sharigan eyes represents different bodies. Like whichever eye is close, that’s what body is activated.

  • December 25, 2009 at 6:01 pmYanDaMan

    Itachi is obviously a genjutsu from Tsukuyomi.

  • December 25, 2009 at 6:05 pmyanipheonu

    Yeah, Itachi is probably from Tsukuyomi. What would be badass is all the Uchiha clan appears to Danzo and start taking revenge on him.

  • December 25, 2009 at 6:07 pmprox

    Danzo has jumped a little on my preference poll since he’s turned out to be a worthy opponent and it helps define Sasuke’s power by having him in a decent fight like this. I can’t help but excitedly anticipate Sasuke actually going blind from the massive strain he continues to put on his eyes, he’s gotten too strong too fast for him to not suffer some recoil.

  • December 25, 2009 at 6:22 pmPw3age

    Nice to see Sasuke going all out at the beginning of the fight. Not like Bleach, where Kubo decides to make one attack take up a whole chapter. >.>

  • December 25, 2009 at 6:25 pmZero

    Okay, nice little fight we got going on here…Now for my lil forcasting on whats gonna happen/what has happened:

    A) Danzo May actually be caught in a genjutsu of Madara’s creation, why? Because you notice since the fight began that Madara’s been analyzing danzo at several moments, Like when he got grabbed by Susansuoo. And who knows since Madara is “training’ sasuke, why not let poor danzo feel like he’s in control.

    b) Danzo knows the flying thunder god technique, the same one that made the 4th famous. no poof, maybe a little handwork, instant teleportation. (This doesn’t work in the case of the “crushing death” but eh, otherwise can make sense)

    C)Bleh insert same ol Sharingan=diff body idea. although to add unto it it can make sense to have that and then have a follower who can take control of another body make it look like 2 Danzo’s and stuff. Dunno about why have an Aburame but hey Danzo prolly likes bugs, lol.

    D) Plain and simple Danzo Loses/escapes/gets captured by Madara just because he’s not Naruto. no details cause… this series can flip switch at any moment it likes and do something crazy like “OHAI, im Itachi, inside of Sasuke!, Had to boot out Orochimaru cause he was a pain and smelled bad, so now I LIVE IN MAI BRUDDA!

  • December 25, 2009 at 8:12 pmAlec

    Itachi appearing is most likely d work of Madara… it appeared to me that he did sumthin during d last pages of d manga…. its gotta be madara

  • December 25, 2009 at 10:02 pmJeremy Giberson

    The eyes aren’t technically life forces, they are more like get out of jail free cards. These eyes are sharingans–which is basically just an extreme level of perception. The power they posses doesn’t deviate from what’s established– it’s just embellished.

    Danzo is probably using the eyes as a way to avoid Sasuke’s incredible attacks. However, it probably takes all the energy of a single eye to accomplish this feet. Hence, each time he avoids an attack, the eye’s energy is used up and closes.

  • December 25, 2009 at 10:30 pmSean

    my theory for danzo’s ability is that each of his eye’s is a life. Sorta like how a cat has 9 lives, so you have to kill danzo X times depending on how many eyes he has.

    And for itachi appearing i think it’s another defense mechanism from the dead itachi, who made it so that if sasuke ever fought danzo he would come out in some form. (sorta like the 4th hokage appearing in naruto’s head.) It really wouldn’t suprise me seeing as how itachi is a super genius god killer mother fucker.

  • December 25, 2009 at 10:33 pmnextshxt.

    the eyes closing seems to be a count down, don’t you agree?
    maybe when he runs out of eye’s the jutsu is over(?)
    or maybe he cant maintain all those sharingan’s at once for a long time because of his stamina.(like kakashi)
    danzo’s body is not a uchiha body, so how can he have so many sharingan and use them at once?
    when on the other hand kakashi has one and cant use it for so long.
    this alone leads me to believe that danzo has a huge amount of chakra.
    my count is he has 10 eyes on his arm a 1 in his head. thats 11 sharingan!
    no matter how much chakra he has he is still not an uchiha. and the jutsu he is using is shisui’s jutsu which is the ultimate genjutsu. maybe he is using it through all the sharingans? (this is only my guess.)

    anyway my guess is that “itachi” is sasuke’s genjutsu. not tsukuyomi…

  • December 26, 2009 at 12:51 amichigoat

    still can’t bear to look at danzo’s arm..ugh,,those eyes..gives me the creeps..

  • December 26, 2009 at 3:34 amsigh

    this chapter was just wow, and weird at the same time. i have many theories that go along with sasuke’s brother’s appearance but the one i think is most possible is that it’s just sasuke using Tsukuyomi, but then again this IS NARUTO so i wouldn’t be surprised if he’s just somehow alive

  • December 26, 2009 at 3:55 amAlec

    Itachi cant be alive…that would be just lame……..

    seeing kakashi, shizune, and other some other konoha nins (that i failed 2 mention) dying, and then getting resurrected is enough crap…. oh not to mention Gaaras resurrection too

  • December 26, 2009 at 4:14 amNarutard

    what the… i don’t know if i am so wrong or so f*cking right bout this because i stopped reading narutard shitpooden’s manga on narutard vs. pain fight. why madara is just watching and just don’t help kill danzo… if my question doesn’t break any plot that i haven’t read.. i am happy i stop watching/reading narucrap. and oh.. i stop it because sasuke is like crazy which likely has a brain malfunction. why destroy konoha after itachi did some cool(troll) sacrifice. Oh divine, do you read berserk manga too? just blog it instead of narutoes.

  • December 26, 2009 at 7:20 amKilx2Joy

    Isn’t it suppose to tire you out a lot when you use the Sharingan when you don’t have Uchiha blood a la Kakashi?

  • December 26, 2009 at 8:21 amanimeE

    yeah for sure, something is up with the eyes closing and opening. but once again, i have to say, what is madara’s aim here? he isn’t stupid and he knows that this battle may be too much for sasuke. seeing sasuke was unable to even beat a single kage at the summit. i think madara is fattening up sasuke for something sinister.

    up to this point, everyone’s impressions of danzo are bad. i wonder if there is some radical, “ill protect the leaf village at all costs” thinking to this guy that sort of transcends good and evil in some cases.

  • December 26, 2009 at 8:34 amjellayrei

    judging from the way that naruto’s been going Itachi is probably still alive…

  • December 26, 2009 at 11:09 amNing

    Throw dust on danzo’s arm, Lulz.

  • December 26, 2009 at 11:10 amFord

    I think when danzo had the uchiha exterminated he kept their corpses and took one eye from each to put on his arm. That then gives him some kind of control over the corpses which he disguised to look like himself (like kisame and itachi did in the gaara arc) and uses them to fight by proxy, teleporting a new one in whenever one dies. Whenever one dies its eye closes on his arm. It would also make the fight pretty ironic once sasuke realizes it and rages.

  • December 27, 2009 at 1:51 amLJkAze

    I think Kishi is building up Sasuke character and make him show up more in the Manga right now so that later he can milk the Naruto character all he wants. I predict a Bee training Naruto Kyuubi control coming soon ^_^. One more thing it’s time for Kishi to build on Sakura :sigh~~~

  • December 28, 2009 at 5:54 pmSilentSin

    He pulled a Piccolo >:[

  • December 29, 2009 at 12:56 pmTaskman

    Wow, I thought this was an anime about ninjas.

    Not so much any more, eh?

  • December 29, 2009 at 1:54 pmAnonymous

    >I predict a Bee training Naruto Kyuubi control coming soon
    THAT would be something. Imagine if Naruto was able to use the Kyuubi without losing his conscience, just like Bee does with the Hachibi. He’d be near invincible!

  • December 30, 2009 at 12:46 pmHenry

    It’s not really a fight at the moment. Just Sasuke killing him over and over again, then Danzou appearing afterwards like “lololol, i didn’t die.”