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Bleach 454 – It’s All Your Fault

It’s truly the dilemna of the insane — is it the world that is crazy, or just yourself? It’s interesting (or scary) seeing both sides trying to “fix” each other. While as the story is portrayed there is a clear bias for Tsukishima being the bad guy, who knows, maybe they really have forgotten their long lost friend Tsukishima. Ginjou and Ichigo both retreat for now though as they try to sort things out, and most of this chapter was just a recap of what we already knew. This “insertion of self into another’s past” ability is certainly an interesting turn of events, and it was also hinted several times earlier in the arc, but not much new information is given here, and the mystery shinigami with Urahara and Isshin is still… a complete mystery. What surprised me was that Yukio and the full-bringers supposedly actually attacked Ginjou, since the normal attitude would be confusion as to why the other party doesn’t remember. However, they may have turned hostile when he continued to treat Tsukishima like an enemy, and indeed Ginjou and Ichigo are taking a big risk with their friends and family by trying to kill Tsukishima without finding a way to reverse his “bookmark” first. It does seem that Ishida has not fallen under his ability, so either Tsukishima simply decided not to use it on him, or Quincy’s are somehow immune to it. Either way though, Ishida may end up playing a bigger part this time around. Ichigo on the other hand is completely different from his usual self — stupid or wise, he used to stop at nothing when it came to the safety of his friends and family. Ichigo is hotheaded person, but running away then blaming others for his troubles is also very uncharacteristic.

June 29, 2011 at 1:45 pm
  • June 29, 2011 at 2:13 pmSnK

    You know, at this point I really wonder how bleach is going to end. That aside what really got me was Ichigo’s little emotional breakdown. I mean, you’d think after all he’s been through he could keep it together a bit more? I don’t know…

    • June 29, 2011 at 3:05 pmAgwtis27

      I don’t know. I think an emotional break down was okay here. Ichigo has been unable to help his friends for a long time now, then he finds out they’ve actually been *protecting him* (something we know he can’t take), and now, he got everyone in trouble again. He broke down when he recalled failing to save his mother, and I think breaking down again after he got ALL of his friends in trouble (not just one). I can see him not handling it well.

      I do have a problem with Ichigo’s readiness to kill Tsukishima. It seems out of character. I know he’s angry and I vaguely remember him threatening others like this before, but can anyone expand on that?

      • June 29, 2011 at 3:26 pmAyle

        Is is experiencing full blown panic. This is the 1st time were someone actually laid a hand on his friend and family and he is in a position of weakness, it’s perfectly normal to just lose it at this point.

      • June 29, 2011 at 10:01 pmProoof

        it is definitely not the first time someone has tried has hurt his friends or family; heck the first he faced off against that hollow he didn’t even have powers

    • July 1, 2011 at 11:45 pmSpacyRicochet

      You’re assuming it’s going to end, as opposed to it being a cash-magnet and thus continuing until it stops being a cash-magnet, without a properly clear direction for its ending.

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:17 pmNixia

    This all seems familiar. Mansion, human-esque group with powers that are not Shinigami or Hollow based. A hero who lost his powers but regains his abilities using an object.
    This is like the canon version of the Bount Arc from the anime. lol

    Bount Mansion y todo. Just replaced Ishida losing his powers with Ichigo. Very similar in a sense. And might be a bad thing for many that didn’t like the Bount Arc.

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:20 pmBlakWngz89

    Umm I wonder how this will end and what meaning it’ll play to the end.

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:24 pmshez

    look like it time for Ichigo to face the music. The big showdown between Ichigo Ginju & Ichigo vs tsukamashima. One will want to know if the will fight. Hopefully someone will come and interere.

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:34 pmBROOKLYN otaku

    THAT’S RIGHT!!! its all your fault KUBO!!!!!!! all of “this” is YOUR GREEDY FAULT!!!!

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:34 pmsmile

    To be honest with you with the whole final battle at the manga i really do think its the final battle….at least i think for ichigo. I have a feeling that even from the beginning of the arc there were those guys that were trapped in hell and needed a way to escape and in order for them to escape ichigo im sure has something to do with it. I feel that even when everyone is against ichigo i feel that he does end up getting defeating in the next battle. He probably dies or someway possibly gets to caught up into his fullbring and ends up goign to the place where all those guys are at in hell or w/e. Thats my guess but I’m probably way off

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:43 pmByakusei

    I call shenanigans on this ability, Show Spoiler ▼

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:47 pmshamaticgrl

    I feel like we’ll get another plot twist (cause we all know these authors live on them) and make Ginjou the bad guy and it’s Tsukishima who’s saving Ichigo (total mind F!). Although I don’t know how it’ll end up but I just get this feeling. Either way I wouldn’t care I just want this series to get over with. Ichigo is PMSing too much lol

  • June 29, 2011 at 2:51 pmKazimakidon

    Has anyone noticed that in the first page of this chapter that Isshin appears to be carrying a sword that sort of looks like Ichigo’s initial fullbring?

    • June 29, 2011 at 3:17 pmAgwtis27

      Yes! Perhaps that is how Isshin regained his shinigami powers too- obtaining a fullbring.

    • June 29, 2011 at 4:20 pmSummelBaerli

      But Isshin doesn’t have a stupid costume |D So that means we can still have hope for Ichigo?

      hmm… but in chapter 186 he still had a Zanpakuto? And didn’t he lose his powers before he had that “coming out”?


  • June 29, 2011 at 3:07 pmAgwtis27

    So this hasn’t been brought up in a while, but does anyone still link Aizen and Tsukishima? I feel like their manipulation abilities are so similar…

    • June 29, 2011 at 3:20 pmAgwtis27

      To expand, do you think it would be a potential scenario in which Aizen and Isshin are long-time enemies who each had children with humans for such and such reasons (Ichigo and Tsukishima). And Tsukishima knows this which is partly why he is so intent on seeking Ichigo out?

  • June 29, 2011 at 3:14 pmAgwtis27

    How is it that Orihime seems to resist Tsukishima’s fullbring and only feel for a second that he was her friend, but then return to normal. Do you think it is because her Shun Shun Rikka powers reject both time and space (and therefore reject a change in time/space)? Did the same thing happen to Ishida? Did Orihime remove the Book of End’s effects when she helped heal Ishida?

  • June 29, 2011 at 3:21 pmAgwtis27

    Finally, when do we get to see Karin’s abilities? Has she developed any? Why did she start off with such promise? What do you think he next role(s) will be in this arc? I feel like we are now closer to ever to revealing them…

  • June 29, 2011 at 3:37 pmArky

    Well it is a critic situation what we got here, is not like Ichigo should go and kill the enemy as he always do, punching his way through, but the enemy is a living Human this time, killing him would be murder and with everyone using real bodies the police would find it out, ichigo wouldnt live a normal live knowing he killed a human he may even go to prison, and his friends would frame him as a murderer if the powers doesnt end with tsukishima dead.

    they have to go with caution, and with the fullbringers and tsukishima side (specially Yukio which i think is the mos dangerous) they have to think twice before doing something.

  • June 29, 2011 at 3:47 pmTwi

    The fact that Ichigo is offering to KILL someone who is Human and he’s normally never that ruthless, means that this dude has gone far beyond the level of Aizen in terms for hatred and fear. He messed with Ichigo’s family directly this time. Ichigo is terrified and it shows. This is true fear.

    Although the police can’t actually arrest him for murder if they can’t find the weapon(i.e. his badge sword.) if he doesn’t go fullbring in front of the cops.

  • June 29, 2011 at 5:01 pmRicalloo

    Interesting, Isshin has a Fullbirng, or so it appears as Kazimakidon pointed out, yet he used his Shinigami powers against that hollow way back when. I’m a little confused on him.

    And, who is the villain? Tsukishima or Ginjou? Very good plot setup to make the readers wonder who it is.

    I’m leaning towards Tsukishima being the antagonist. His “attack” on Ishida appears to have failed. Ishida, as a Quincy, might be immune to the manipulation as Prooof pointed out. So far everyone who has been affected by his power is a “normal” human. Ishida is Quincy, Ichigo is a hollow/shinigami/human hybrid. Ginjou is… well we aren’t sure yet what/who he is.

    And WTF are Isshin and Urahara up to? Why is this being dragged out so far!?

  • June 29, 2011 at 5:45 pmKentaiyoshimi

    Or maybe it’s the other way around. It’s not that Tsukishima inserted himself into people’s past, but he temporarily erased himself from people’s past (as in everyone knew Tsuki before, but Tsuki made them forget him) And he now made everyone remeber him again.

  • June 29, 2011 at 5:49 pmSpencer

    One thing could bring Tsukishima’s plan crumbling down and they are very easy to find… photos. Though I highly doubt that Tsukishima overlooked this fact and probably altered some photos, but if he inserted himself in the wrong place at the wrong time then he is screwed. All Ichigo needs to do is say “I don’t remember this guy, was he there for any birthdays or something? Can I see a picture of him with me when I’m younger?” Basic human nature is to show proof when you are sure of something so of course someone will go look through some photos.

  • June 29, 2011 at 6:35 pmZaku Fan

    Wow i was suspecting that it was Ginjou that got brainwashed and he was attacked because of that but then the middle of the chapter killed that speculation. It would have been funny to see Ichigo take out the entire Xcution then realise that they were on the same side all the while.

    But then this is shonen so i guess i should have stuck with the simplest explaination that Ginjou was telling the truth.

  • June 29, 2011 at 9:48 pmhjerry

    Man, I really hope we see some a**kicking soon. These last two chapters have been really frustrating.

  • June 29, 2011 at 10:03 pmUknown

    I am still suspicious of Ginjou… many frames and angles in which he’s been drawn, especially at the beginning of the arc suggested that he was the bad guy, while Tsukishima looks neutral to me… will see…

  • June 30, 2011 at 5:50 amRex

    Its important to note what happened to Ishida when he was attacked, and then chad and orihime.

    Chad and Orihime didnt feel anything, and you couldnt see they were cut. But Ishida on the other hand, he was cut for real. So:

    1: Tsukushima didnt know who Ishida was, and since he was acting hostile he attacked
    2: Tsukushima believes that ishida wont serve a purpose in his plans and therefor tried to kill him off
    3: Ishida was attacked to get Ichigo’s attention, and since Ichigo has plenty of friends and allies, killing off one wouldnt hurt Tsukushima’s plans.
    4: Like PROOOF said, maybe Tsukushima did intend to convert Ishida, but ended up hurting him for real as quincy are immune.

    And about ichigo, with Aizen, he knew for a long time that Aizen was a bad guy, he knew about his history and what he’s done, and what he can do.
    Tsukushima on the other hand, comes directly out of left field, nobody knows what he can do, nobody knows what he is trying to do, and not only that, he can mess with someone’s minds on a level that seems to surpass Aizen, and messes around with his own family.
    That is what shocked ichigo so much that he reacts the way he does. And running away was the best choice, because what could he have done? Killed tsukushima right there? Infront of everyone?

    And ichigo HAS changed, downright contemplating to KILL someone. He has NEVER, EVER said that in the entirety of bleach. Ever. Not even against Aizen.

    This makes me think of a now old theory, back when everyone was still in mexico, and kubo hinted at the next arcs. It was theorized that there would be a story arc where ichigo became the “bad guy” so to speak and HE was the one that needed the rescueing.
    Who knows, maybe it could be true.

    • June 30, 2011 at 6:39 amshadowblack

      You forgot one other possibility:
      5. The one who attacked Ishida wasn’t Tsukishima at all. Instead it was just someone pretending to be Tsukishima, but who did not have the same abilities (Ginjo, perhaps?)

      And yes, Ichigo has changed, but we still don’t know why. When this arc started (just after he met Ginjo for the first time, if I’m not mistaken) it was mentioned that something was wrong with Ichigo’s reiatsu. Could it be that Ichigo is being manipulated by someone and that’s why he acted the way he did (running away from home, considering to kill Tsukishima)?

    • June 30, 2011 at 7:12 amAgwtis27

      So, Ishida has often times demonstrated that he is prepared for anything and usually has a trick or two up his sleeve. Moreover, he is one of the best at sensing changes in reiatsu. Perhaps when Tsukishima attacked, Ishida saw a change in reiatsu or something and did some weird defensive move to prevent too much damage.

  • June 30, 2011 at 3:17 pmjingoi

    Maybe the present ending theme is implying that Uryu will have an important role in the manga.

  • June 30, 2011 at 10:07 pmWill

    Did anyone else notice how viscous Ichigo got when backed into a corner outside of a fight? Ichigo wouldn’t even kill Grimmjow when he had the chance and the first thing he does is suggest to KILL Tsukishima, not beat to a pulp, not interrogate him… Kill him. really enjoyed the psychological aspect of this chapter.

  • July 2, 2011 at 8:11 amDeleteJX

    to be honest.. i like the turn twist. but also i dont like where this is going. It looks like the writers really dont know where to go from a certain point.

  • July 3, 2011 at 7:55 amblaineo

    I got the feeling that this is all a set up. For some reason I found it hard to trust Ginjou in this chapter. It seems a bit odd how Tsukishima suddenly was able to turn the tide against them. I think Ginjou is stringing Ichigo along.

  • July 3, 2011 at 2:14 pmSnicket

    The ability to manipulate/ alter peoples memories…WTF! That’s almost as bad as the guy from the filler arch, that can hit the ‘replay’ button when ever feels like it. Setting aside the latter. This can go one of two ways. Either Inigo and Ginjou stay off the radar and find a way to take Tsukishima out. Or that the ‘power of love’ prevails all and everyone eventually breaks free of Tsukishima ‘s manipulation.