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Bleach 509 – A One-Sided Boss Battle

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Yamamoto has proved himself to be a man quick to anger on several occasions, but his fury has reached unprecedented levels in this battle against Juha Bach. He appears to be acting out of pure spite over the death of his subordinates, particularly his vice-captain Sasakibe, and has unleashed his full power in battle for what seems to be the first time ever. He has pulled the plugs on every arsenal in his bankai to crush his old enemy, proving beyond doubt that he is the strongest Shiniami in Soul Society by a long shot. Yamamoto’s powers are definitely very exaggerated (e.g. temperatures in the millions and skeleton warriors in the trillions), but from what we can infer about Juha’s strength, it doesn’t seem likely that a mere army of undead could stop him. He himself says as much, until Yamamoto pointedly mentions that those zombies were Quincies that he had personally slain, many of whom were Juha’s friends or subordinates. His move was clearly intended as a vicious psychological attack by forcing his opponent to cut down his own allies, but ironically, the motive, or at least part of the motive, for the Vandenreich invasion may have been to avenge the deaths of the Quincies at the hands of the Gotei 13, and Yamamto’s taunts only salted the wounds. Truly I did not think the cruel, ruthless Vandenreich leader had actually cared that much for his subordinates, or as Yamamoto pointed out, had a human heart. Kubo really seems to be trying to show that there is no right side in war, and this conflict especially seems to have degenerated into a cycle of revenge a long time ago.

Regardless of their anger however, Yamamoto retains the upper hand throughout the fight, and Zanka no Tachi “North” finally finishes off Juha Bach. The relative ease of that victory, and the lack of Ichigo’s involvement leaves me very suspicious though, and there’s certainly no way the war will end just like that. Perhaps the main villain is actually someone else and the whole thing was just a huge gimmick, or perhaps Juha has a second form he will now release. The end of the chapter is intentionally left vague, though from the final words my guess is that the Juha that was defeated wasn’t the “real Juha”. With so many unresolved cliffhangers though, we probably won’t get an answer immediately. Either way, this war isn’t over yet.

September 27, 2012 at 8:20 am
72 comments »
  • September 27, 2012 at 8:34 amKagutsuchi

    When I got to the end of this chapter all I could think of was “F*cking Kubo…”
    The trolling is getting ridiculous. :(

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:35 amMasterDragonKnight

    Yamamoto has become the undefeated of the east, west, south, and north. Now he just needs to be undefeated of the center to become SUPER YAMAMOTO!!!

    • September 27, 2012 at 5:37 pmDa5id

      TOH!!

    • September 28, 2012 at 1:16 amSkins Thunderbomb

      …What the fuck did I just watch?

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:38 amdimasok

    I think Juha was actually Aizen’s bankai all along (since we’ve never seen it)… wouldn’t that be great?

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:40 amSeishowmeu

    People are never satisfied.. That’s why Kubo is done. #toomuchbullshit

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:42 amWW

    I’m getting tired of battles with one side (usually the antagonist) outsmarting the protagonists so badly. The reason something like DeathNote was interesting was that for most of the storyline, both sides kept pulling something new, which we know isn’t happening with Ichigo or Yama. If Juha Bach really has this planned out so well, what I want to see is Juha Bach vs. Aizen, so we can have a true battle of wits.

    • September 27, 2012 at 2:07 pmvjott

      Bleach is no Death Note. Far from it. Aizen Sosuke is no Light Yagami. Aizen was a cheap hack who relied heavily on his Zanpaktou’s shikai and superior strength to succeed. The ruse that he pulled back in Soul Society was dependant on his shikai, his initial defeat of Ichigo and Renji was his superior strength. His subjugation of the Vasto Lordes when he went to Hueco Mundo was a combination of his strength and his shikai. Stealing Orihime to get Ichigo and some of the captains into Hueco Mundo wasn’t particularly brilliant and Yamamoto had already anticipated his move by setting up the fake Karakura Town. In his fight with the shinigami, he relied on the Hōgyoku and his shikai, neither of which requires cleverness. What made him seem clever was the stupidity of everyone else.

      • September 27, 2012 at 6:09 pmLK

        Bravo, bravo. Hear hear!

  • September 27, 2012 at 9:14 am7godeohs

    One of Bachs men impersonated him, now the real one has seen the full extent of his Bankai and can now somehow steal it – not sure how anyone else could handle that kind of power but it’s Kubo so whatever.

    If this happens, the real question is how Ichigo could ever possibly hope to defeat a bankai 1000+ years in the making. Maybe we’ll get a Ichigo/Aizen fusion like DBZ. Ichizen/Aizigo?

    • September 27, 2012 at 11:01 amDa5id

      Well, Ichizen means one good thing/act, so maybe they’ll do it to prove there’s some good in Aizen?

      If they do it at all, I mean.

    • September 27, 2012 at 11:57 pmkingofconquerors

      with his brain? it will be great if ichigo at some point will use his brain as opposed to his power to defeat the foe (that would be a great change of pace), i mean he could do it the way Aizen did against Yamamoto (well, not exactly like that, but i hope he can try to be cunning for a little bit)

    • September 28, 2012 at 4:08 amJello

      Soooooooooo…what happened to that reiatsu thing that EVERYONE minus Ichigo had a firm understanding of? You know, that thing where the screen goes fuzzy and Ishida goes “Oh, that’s definitely so-and-so’s reiatsu!”

      Are you telling me Juha Bach’s stand-in and Juha Bach have the same reiatsu?

      Or are you telling me Yamamoto is senile.

      FFS PICK ONE AND ROLL WITH IT.

  • September 27, 2012 at 9:14 amNadester

    The battle is far from over people. But in the meantime with Uruhara…….

    • September 27, 2012 at 11:42 amSeioh

      Somewhere in Hueco Mundo…

      Urahara: “Do you have any 5?”
      Enemy: “Go fish”
      Both are playing cards, with sake bottles littered everywhere

      Orihime and Chad had started a Barbeque and are currently eating

      Ichigo:-inside the cage- “Damn I’m bored…are you guys done yet”

  • September 27, 2012 at 10:01 amBryon

    I only got one thing to say;
    Will the real Juha Bach please stand up?

    • September 27, 2012 at 2:18 pmDon Kanonji

      Did someone call for me?

      THE SPIRITS ALL ALWAYS WITH YOU! BWAHAHAHAH!!!

      • September 27, 2012 at 5:35 pmDa5id

        No, no, Don Kanonji is the Spirit King.

        And Ichigo’s mom.

      • September 27, 2012 at 11:48 pmkingofconquerors

        Zennosuke “Afro-san” says hi!

  • September 27, 2012 at 10:37 amtasa

    Well one thing that I can give credit to kubo is that we were given a reason why Bach did not use his bankia stealing badge. On a sidenote this chapter seems to be giving forshadowing that Ichigo’s bankia might be evoling in the future.

    • September 27, 2012 at 10:47 pmMurdacion

      I like the way you think. If you’re right about Ichigo’s bankai evolving though, then what would it be called? The Encore Getsugatenshou?

  • September 27, 2012 at 10:51 amHakumeiJin

    And so we get what seems to be the reason why certain Bankai can’t be stolen and also evidence that Yamamoto is completely senile (or Zanka no Tachi actually has even more forms but considering what we’ve seen from Bleach so far…) when he proceeds to make sure he reveals all sides of his bankai despite there being no reason to.

  • September 27, 2012 at 10:55 amjunglepenguin

    I miss Kon.

  • September 27, 2012 at 10:59 amDa5id

    Well, it was a good fight.

    Lets hope the rest of the story doesn’t suck, because that is a very real possibility.

  • September 27, 2012 at 11:30 amSpencer

    I love how Yamamoto attempts to explain why Juha can’t steal his or Ichigo’s bankai “Because you didn’t know enough about them and Ichigo’s could expand.”
    HIS SUBORDINATES WERE GOING TO STEAL RENJI’S BANKAI! Excuse me if I am not remembering this correctly but didn’t Ichigo and Renji each gain bankai within a day of each other. Also, why don’t the quincies know enough about the bankai that can literally be active for hours, and we’ve all seen how much it changed and evolved it’s powers that time of never.

    • September 27, 2012 at 1:23 pmGermanguy

      And, the Yamamotos “Underling” Captain. He only shows his Bankai to him. So how they could steal it from the start?

      Perhaps at the cenemorie where all the Captains must show their Bankai’s to the others. That was the Key scene, where Aizen put an Illusion to all others. So there must be a Spy or betrayer under the Captains… But i dont think so

    • September 28, 2012 at 4:05 amJello

      Underling Captain probably got his stolen because he had it for so long and some mole sold the info…or something.

      And I guess we can only assume that it’s because Renji’s bankai has no more room to develop! THIS IS RENJI’S MAX POWER LEVEL.

      …sadness…everywhere.

    • September 30, 2012 at 8:20 pmDY

      But Renji’s bankai was never stolen. He was kicked away by the Mexican Stern Ritter before As Nodt use his badge. Sure, the intention was there but maybe they would’ve been surprised to find Renji’s bankai immune to their badge as well. Or Renji has really hit his limit for all we know.

  • September 27, 2012 at 11:52 amspikerman87

    If I were “Juha Bach” I would have stolen his Bankai just to keep him from using it against me. This Bankai is way too powerful to be controlled by them anyways. Just steal it so he won’t kill you with it…but again I’m too logical.

    • September 30, 2012 at 8:21 pmDY

      How? This chapter just explained why they can’t steal Yama’s bankai.

      • October 1, 2012 at 4:15 pmspikerman87

        If “Juha Bach” went into this knowing he couldn’t steal Yamamoto’s Bankai then what was his plan? I’m assuming he thought he “could” have stolen it, but he didn’t even give it a try. I’m saying if he actually “could” have stolen it then I would have to keep myself alive. Yama’s explanation doesn’t make sense either because Soifon and Chōjirō Sasakibe rarely if ever used their Bankai and they were stolen immediately. Ichigo and Renji achieved Bankai literally within days of each other and Renji almost had his stolen, but they can’t steal Ichigo’s?

  • September 27, 2012 at 12:03 pmYanDaMan

    Imagine if Aizen didnt have Wonderweiss to seal Yamamoto’s flames. He stood no chance lol.

  • September 27, 2012 at 12:03 pmLaughingMan

    $20 says that Lord Toofsy (http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1341/43/1341434279687.png) is the REAL Juha Bach.

    • September 28, 2012 at 3:59 amhoiut

      All evidence does in fact point to Lord Toofsy. Good call…

  • September 27, 2012 at 12:31 pmFeik

    Isn’t it obvious that either:
    a) The Juha Bach that just died (in theory) was used as a decoy to learn how Yamamoto’s bankai works so they can steal it now.
    b) They intended Yamamoto to go crazy and burn Soul Society to ashes himself.

    • September 27, 2012 at 1:20 pmGermanguy

      c) They intended Yamamoto to worn out himself, so that he is not a tread anymore.. I think, someone said this last time…

      • September 27, 2012 at 1:27 pmGermanguy

        Or the “real” Juha Bach, is the holder of the Sword that surprise Urahara

      • September 27, 2012 at 1:29 pmGermanguy

        ..and Lord Toofsy is the “Scout” that collect Informations of Yamamoto’s Bankai.. Dont forget. They have the “Female” Arancor.. And we saw in a Battle how fast they can “reproduce” themselves.. Well this one “crazy Sentience” of Poison and son on..

  • September 27, 2012 at 1:40 pmYogo

    Shatter, Kyoka Suigetsu.

    • September 27, 2012 at 2:15 pmvjott

      Nah, that’d be trolling of a magnitude that even Kubo isn’t capable of…or is he?

    • September 27, 2012 at 2:35 pmL002

      Mmmm, it makes me wonder if the Quincy boss would do that. To be honest, I am more surprised that another “Wonderweiss” hasn’t been made in order to counter this problem again.

  • September 27, 2012 at 1:46 pmAnanas

    You’not you so who are you?

  • September 27, 2012 at 3:08 pmhaseo0408

    Has anyone tell Kubo the meaning of overpowered? Yamamoto is like the God of the Sun himself, are you telling me that there is someone strong enough to kill that guy!?. Kubo really need to think real hard on the few ideas he has left.

    • September 28, 2012 at 10:52 amGermanguy

      He is a “God of Sun”. But his Powers is a double edge Sword for the World. He is still “burning” the World around him. The Faster he can kill the Enemy the “earlier” the World can recover from his “Sun Burst”

      Thats why he never or in rare Case, pull out his bankai. It is a Dragon that eats his own tail, until it gone

      • September 28, 2012 at 10:54 amGermanguy

        But i wonder. If Ichigo is on the same Level as Yamamoto.. But then, how fasr “above” is Ichigos Father of Yamamoto? is he his Ancient Superior? Dont think so. But perhaps the “Captain Commander” of Intelligence Agency.

  • September 27, 2012 at 3:53 pmrazz

    The guy with the cloak is the real Jura Bach or while they were all fucking around Juha had a copy of the hogyoku and already blew the shit off karakura town and is heading to the soul kings place.

  • September 27, 2012 at 4:10 pmeuler271

    Aizen:Shatter, Kyoka Suigetsu.
    Aizen:you see Ichigo-kun, all that would happen if you somehow had a way to defeat me now that the hogyoku and I are one.

    that would be a good explanation for all the latest crap. XD

  • September 27, 2012 at 5:50 pmAddon

    Juha Bach = Kon

    The war has just begun…

  • September 27, 2012 at 6:17 pmRyougaZell

    I really miss Hollows. The manga was better back then.

  • September 27, 2012 at 7:32 pmrandom viewer

    I expected too much of Juha Bach for having defeated Kenpachi to put up more of a fight, but instead he gets over-killed. I suppose the death flags for Yamamoto are down now.

  • September 27, 2012 at 7:43 pmSortedevaras

    I hope it ends just like this, with Ichigo doing nothing. One final parting epic troll by Kubo.

  • September 27, 2012 at 7:48 pmRed Alchemist

    If the reason they can’t steal Ichigo’s bankai is because it can still evolve, then how were they able to steal captain Hitsuguya’s, when it’s been stated numerous times that his bankai still isn’t complete

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:19 pmRonin09

    All plot speculation aside, it’s a crying shame that this epic scene will probably never be animated.

    • September 27, 2012 at 11:53 pmkingofconquerors

      i hope it will, since i heard somewhere that bleach would get animated again once there are enough chapters (Its sales may have plummeted but it’s still better than the sales of most of the other shounen out there

  • September 27, 2012 at 8:32 pmshinigami99

    Aizen: Just as planned >D

  • September 27, 2012 at 9:27 pmjingoi

    So it’s either
    A)Not the real Juha Bach
    B)Aizen
    C)Ryuken
    D)Because Kubo
    E)A headache to try and figure out (basically D)

  • September 27, 2012 at 11:30 pmDorian

    When nothing else makes sense, bet on Aizen.

    • September 27, 2012 at 11:50 pmkingofconquerors

      “since when were u under the impression that Aizen isn’t behind this?

      • September 28, 2012 at 4:02 amhoiut

        There has been a considerable amount of speculation that Lord Toofsy himself is Aizen. Which is really quite incredible, considering his implied ties to Tsukishima. You DO remember him, right?

        He was there all along.

  • September 28, 2012 at 12:56 amDjalaal

    A thought just crossed my mind. Whether it is a fake Juha, or he’s not the real villain, now that Yamamoto is finally revealing his full bankai, anyone who watches this, learns of it, and that will probably mean they can seal his bankai (eventually). And THAT, would be VERY bad. Because those guys can use bankai’s they stole right?

  • September 28, 2012 at 6:03 amCelecia01

    I think that Yamamoto’s Bankai speech here was Kubo confessing to us that he finally realises how many times he re-used everyone’s Bankai. Really all the Vandenreach would have to have done is just watch or read the last couple of hundred chapters and then everyone’s bankai is theirs.

    This must also mean that people like Shinji, Ukitake and Kyoraku are perfectly safe because they NEVER use their bankai? As for the reason itself, I always imagined that Ichigo was safe because of his hollow powers, and hence Shinji and the other Vizards would come into their own here as they would be safe too…

    And on that note, why hasn’t Ichigo used his mask at all since the time skip? I want to see how much that has changed too!

    • September 28, 2012 at 6:50 amBryon

      What it is, I think Celecia, is that Ichigo’s powers have reached a level where, since he had gained Mugetsu, his Hollow powers are now completely gone and he’s back to being a regular Soul Reaper, only a WHOLE lot stronger thanks to his preparing to defeat Aizen in the Dangai Precipice World. After all, he knocked around a Hollowified Ginjo around in the Xcution arc like he was nothing, even if Ginjo expected his Hollowifying to give him an edge against Ichigo. So it’s safe to say, as Ichigo stands now in the story, he’s at the zenith of his abilities, even if he could possibly grow even stronger. It’s all just in theory after all, so I dunno if I’m right or wrong!

      • September 28, 2012 at 10:48 amGermanguy

        Dont “underestimated” a Human Soul. It is always a fight between Light and Dark side. So, Hallow Super Ichigo, is still possible. But then, did we saw the Shinigami Super Ichigo so far?… Wonder if he is still the same appearance like we know him

      • September 28, 2012 at 1:18 pmCelecia01

        Yes, what you say has actually crossed my mind before, mainly when Ichigo failed to use his powers against Ginjo. I feel this would explain why during his recent battle against Kirge he didn’t use it even when Kirge powered up. To be honest, given the strength Ichigo has displayed since regaining his powers I feel he is strong enough anyway…still it would be interesting to see how his hollow powers have developed if he has retained these powers.

        Another fear that I had was that Ichigo may still fear his hollow powers after the fight with Ulquiorra, as I recall he hesitated when using them against Aizen the first time and then again against Gin. That is another theory though.

  • September 28, 2012 at 4:51 pmSora no Kaze

    I”m waiting for Yamamato to pull out the Northwest, northeast, southeast and southwest >_>…. also, had that exact same feeling the moment as the first poster, even though this was not only unexpected, but a good way to go about it. Ugh, that Aizen Arc still scars my mind deeply….

  • September 29, 2012 at 12:59 amBaby Choo Choo

    For the life of me, I don’t know why I expected anyone other than Ichigo to actually kill ‘the bad guy’…

    Well, I wonder what powers he’ll get this time and how long it’ll take him to get them. The sooner we fast forward through that whole process, the better. Matter of fact, how about we just start next week’s chapter with Ichigo fighting the real Juha or whoever and just throw in a 1 page summary of how we got to that point.

    Yeah…let’s just do that.

  • September 29, 2012 at 10:17 amWyatt Derp

    I would laugh so hard if Bach had the same power as Aizen. It would be such a perfect way for Bleach to completely squander everything it’s attempting to do right now with it’s last arc.

  • September 29, 2012 at 10:57 amshinigami99

    Are you guys going to blog about the Code Geass OVA? It’s out and I thought it was great.

  • September 30, 2012 at 3:38 pmNine

    I don’t understand the logic about “MUST” reveal your secret weapon in detail to enemy in battle. Isn’t it a bad move for Yamamoto? or he is just too overconfident.

    • September 30, 2012 at 7:17 pmOverMaster

      It’s in the contract every Bleach character must sign before joining the cast.

  • October 2, 2012 at 6:41 amLogan

    The Real Juha Bach has been revealed!!!

    • October 2, 2012 at 6:19 pmichigoat

      yamamato just got aizen’d. >_< poor old man.