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Bleach 513 – Impossible is Nothing

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A total of two things happened in this chapter: first, Byakuya finally expires, and second, Ichigo shows off one of his new tricks. Last week was ridiculous, but this one manages to surpass even that in terms of snail’s pacing. Unsurprisingly, Getsuga Tenshou is completely useless now, and Juha took a direct hit like it was nothing more than a breeze of wind. Literally only a few seconds of the fight are shown as Ichigo is pinned down almost immediately, and the cliffhanger is revealed right after that as he manages to land a surprise attack on Juha. I’m pretty sure that either Ishida or Ryuuken was involved in this, probably by transferring or teaching him Quincy powers. Since Ichigo was able to use one of the “new” abilities (Blut), I assume that they have not been idle after all, and have been making preparations of their own all this time while they’ve been off screen. If this is not just a temporary effect, then it would mean that our wunderkind has evolved even further to become the ultimate spiritual being in the universe – a hybrid human, shinigami, hollow, fullbring and quincy. If past experience is any clue though, just these powers will not be enough to win.

There’s not much in regards to the other parts of the chapter (which probably spanned all of half a minute), but I did think Juha’s comment about resurrecting Ichigo was interesting. Perhaps it’s related to the zombie-like abilities we saw in 12th squad barracks a few weeks ago, but it will definitely not be fun if Juha decides to pull a page from Tsukishima’s book and turn Ichigo’s own friends against him.

October 25, 2012 at 10:08 pm
71 comments »
  • October 25, 2012 at 10:11 pmDa5id

    Blut = Blue? or Blood?

    Anyway, this is probably foreshadowing that Ichigo will learn some sort of Quincy Technique because he’s part human, change his costume again with black-white/yin-yang/Reaper-Quincy thing in the final battle.

    • October 25, 2012 at 10:21 pmhaseo0408

      Throw a Hollow mask into that mix and you might have hited the jackpot.

    • October 26, 2012 at 12:32 amTez

      Blut = blood

      As you can see the technique turns the blood under the skin into armor

    • October 26, 2012 at 1:36 amdefunkt_bots

      musings as to ichigos omni-technique hax – ichigo is actually the grim reaper at the top of the pile and zangetsu’s final form is a giant deathscythe…

    • October 26, 2012 at 4:51 amMasterDragonKnight

      Ichigo is now a human-Shinigami-Hollow-Vizard-Fullbringer-Quincy.

      Ummm…yeah…

      • October 26, 2012 at 8:20 amdefunkt_bots

        wait for him to get his mahou shoujo powers..!

      • October 26, 2012 at 10:44 amASdae

        LOL! I just imagined him with his magical kawai rod to punish the bad guys! xDDD

    • October 26, 2012 at 5:41 amgungnir

      Seriously, how much more ridiculous can this get.

      At this point all I want to see is Ichigo going Final Getsuga Tenshou mode, pull out his mask, activate Blut Arterie and go Vollstandig, enhance his sword with Fullbring, and just one shot everything in a 100 km radius to ashes.

    • October 26, 2012 at 7:26 amGermanguy

      Perhaps this is not Ichigo… Zero Squad has Shape-shifters? :)

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:15 pmSilivious

    Would be odd if Kubo pulled a troll by saying his mother had the potential to be a Quincy or something…=_=

    • October 26, 2012 at 12:38 amL002

      You may have a point. When you think about it, it may be possible. Aside from the fact she was indeed a spiritually aware being, we know zip on what Ichigo’s mother is. Aizen did said she was human, of course Quincy counts as humans as well. Perhaps the hybrid of a Shinigami and Human gives Ichigo some special abilities aside from simply a insane growth rate.

      • October 30, 2012 at 2:52 amMixed Milkshake

        Funny how you guys got it right…

    • October 26, 2012 at 4:52 amKarmafan

      Since day 1 I have always thought his mother was some sort of a spirit being. Where did Ichigo get hollow powers from? His father is a former soul reaper so why hollow? His mom might have been the soul king’s daughter or a shinigami (dad) fell in love with a hollow (mom) in a romeo and juliette kinda thing or she was a Quincy. Does NOT make sense storywise for her to have just been a normal human.

      • October 26, 2012 at 4:57 amKarmafan

        btw… I also wonder if Juha’s mentioning resurecting Ichigo was a metaphor for pulling Ichigo’s latent Quincy powers out of him and bringing them to his conciousness (if his mom was a Quincy)?

      • October 26, 2012 at 5:25 amDareigeo

        Ichigo got his hollow powers at the same time as his shinigami power. When he was unlocking his shinigami he was in the middle of turning into a hollow.

    • October 26, 2012 at 1:34 pmDamrod

      What if she did not only have the potential to be a quincy, but was all along a quincy?

      • October 30, 2012 at 10:43 amKarmafan

        Well I called that right (like many others). This weeks Bleach reveals that…

        Show Spoiler ▼

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:15 pmTerox

    It’s German for blood (Blood Vein and Blood Artery the respective modes).

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:18 pmTerox

    Well his mother was human and so are Quincies… so Shinigami father + Quincy mother + exposure to hollows during pregnancy (+meeting Fullbringers) = shitton of powers

    • October 25, 2012 at 10:41 pmZen

      It’d be significantly more elegant if Quilge messed up somehow while trying to steal Ichigo’s bankai, transferring some of his own Quincy powers to our hero instead- but knowing Kubo (And observing the rule of lex parsimoniae), I bet you guys are right…

    • October 27, 2012 at 10:46 amHurn

      Ichigo just realized he could use his new Fullbringer Powers and absorb Kirges cage.

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:19 pmhaseo0408

    Kubo is running out of ideas and fast.

    • October 25, 2012 at 11:38 pmjunglepenguin

      Wrong! He’s FULL of ideas! Just not good ones.

      • October 26, 2012 at 11:11 pmKob264

        He always go for what he thinks will be cool, that’s why it can get so… well messy and predictable or naively silly.
        Rule #1 turn, your brain off when reading bleach.

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:19 pmssj4jw

    Maybe his partial fullbring powers copied the technique since it supposed “remember every battle”. Either way we do know arrancar can use Quincy techniques so I’m guessing spiritually aware humans can to.

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:24 pmichikaa

    Spent the entire day in silence after finishing this chapter.

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:29 pmTOP2NE1

    Shinigami, Hollow, Fullbringer, and now Quincy? I’m calling Ichigo’s Tailed Beast and King’s Disposition right now.

    • October 26, 2012 at 7:16 amgrt

      probably someday ichigo can turn into super saiya jin too. who knows…XD

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:31 pmdimasok

    This is the first time in my history of manga reading where a single chapter carried so little substance..

  • October 25, 2012 at 10:35 pml3reezer

    All part of Aizen’s plan, breeding him into the ultimate hybrid so he can use him as Madara does Obito.

    • October 25, 2012 at 10:44 pmDSSeraph

      “go now! Until my release from prison, you are Sōsuke Aizen!”

    • October 25, 2012 at 10:50 pmdimasok

      I honestly think by now Aizen is controlling Kubo which leads to these crappy chapters.. while he is plotting to take over the REAL WORLD!

      • October 25, 2012 at 11:24 pmZen

        Reality hax powers (Aizen) = An author’s ability to shape the world at will (Kubo)

        In other words, Aizen is Kubo’s in-world alter-ego…which is why his catchphrase is “I planned it all along”- because as the author (His real-world self), he really did- but Kubo/Aizen sucks at planning so they both fail (At both evil schemes and story, which are again pretty much one and the same, since the schemes make the story.) Starting to see the correlation?…:O

  • October 25, 2012 at 11:11 pmZero Hour 17

    Apparently I’m the only one who likes good old fashioned power up mangas where the character getting new, more awesome powers is the point. That or this minority is really vocal

    • October 25, 2012 at 11:27 pmKandur

      The minority is really vocal.

      • October 25, 2012 at 11:32 pmZen

        Or trolling…XP

      • October 25, 2012 at 11:46 pmZen

        But seriously, on a personal level I do enjoy Bleach and similar shounen titles…but as a detached, impartial critic I simply can’t sit back and keep a straight face while calling dead-horse “good-old-fashioned shounen power-up” conventions quality storytelling, in most scenarios, anyways…

      • October 26, 2012 at 10:00 pmdiaz

        I don’t know why but I just read “The minority is really vocal.” as “The minority is really Vogon.” :P

        Ever since that moment reading all the comments here became something else.

        Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogons

    • October 25, 2012 at 11:57 pmKandur

      The detached critic a sad form of existence. In this subjective world, what ammount of denial and ignorance does one need to convince himself that he formed an objective opinion?

      If you enjoy something you enjoy something. People are so insecure about their opinions nowadays…

      • October 26, 2012 at 2:00 amZen

        True objectivity is a rare virtue. It is the ability to make a conscious effort to set aside one’s passions and biases and evaluate something based solely on its tangible, physical characteristics; where stories are concerned, these are things like originality, logical plot progression, accessibility and strong character development.

        In Eastern religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism, the denial of self and the suppression of one’s own hedonistic, self-centered ego is one of the most important steps to attaining enlightenment. So in a way, I suppose you could say that true objectivity is a higher form of existence rather than a sad one.

        But enough with all the smoke-and-mirrors philosophy; true objectivity is also the basis of all modern science. Physicists didn’t arbitrarily declare the existence of the Higgs Boson on a whim simply because it is necessary for the confirmation of the generally reliable and popular Standard Model; they have yet to do so even after numerous consistent and encouraging experiments; even after the discovery of a particle that “is consistent” with the theoretical Higgs Boson – and even after CERN’s paper on the aforementioned particle passed rigorous peer review – nothing short of true, observational confirmation that the new particle’s behavior is consistent with that of the theoretical Higgs Boson (Within a certain minute margin of error) will satisfy them.

        In any case, think about the chaos that would ensue if we had “subjective” engineers and architects who designed buildings and bridges completely at whim while neglecting, or (god forbid) outright ignoring the objective physical rules of stability. Remember the collapse of the Hagia Sophia’s first dome? That’s a textbook example of what happens when engineers emphasize (subjective) form over (objective) function. Now imagine what would happen if the engineers of the Burj Khalifa did the same – yeah…not a pretty picture.

        I re-emphasize the fact that true objectivity – (Not perfect objectivity, but a conscious effort made to minimize subjectivity; an earnest attempt to set aside one’s own subjective views born of the recognition that bias is an inherent human flaw.) is the basis of all modern science, which in turn forms the basis of all modern technologies that are the foundation of human civilization- without true objectivity, the world as we know it would crumble and collapse- much like the first dome of the Hagia Sophia…

  • October 25, 2012 at 11:17 pmrandom viewer

    Bleach died for me when Byakuya did. It won’t be the same when I watch the anime again. Anyways, if Ichigo didn’t have another trick up his sleeves by now I don’t think anyone would have commented here.

    • October 26, 2012 at 12:00 amZen

      Kubo’s probably going for some kind of “new generation” ending. He keeps talking about how Ichigo’s arrival “changed Soul Society” which had been static in its customs and traditions for far too long. So I bet he’s “killing off the old blood to make way for the new.” Characters like Yama-jii (Founder and leader of the old Shinigami order) and Byakuya (Old nobility) represent the obsolete, old guard that must “die” (Literally and/or metaphorically) to make way for the establishment of the new order led by Ichigo…though I have a faint (Okay, more than faint) suspicion that this whole theory is wishful thinking on my part, born of my (probably irrational) hope for a good ending to this mess…XP

      • October 26, 2012 at 7:51 amrandom viewer

        Okay but my point is that I started watching Bleach because I saw Ichigo versus Byakuya and to end Bleach without Byakuya just feels wrong for me. If the ending is going to be turning out how you mentioned how Kubo wants it to be, then it sounds like he’s trying to restart Bleach from zero.

  • October 26, 2012 at 12:17 ampatrikstar3

    Wow… I was just kidding about the whole Harry Potter/Bleach idea and Kubo bust this out. Lol.

  • October 26, 2012 at 1:03 amAnanas

    It fell even emptier than usual. Like two pages of content.

  • October 26, 2012 at 2:08 amTyKH

    Actualy, it’s a bit weird that Byukuya dies. Remember his fight with Ichigo that he tells him that Ichigo is the second person to his Senkei, Senbonsakura Kageyoshi? Who’s this first person?! Aaaargh!

    • October 27, 2012 at 6:05 amkulolo saki

      1st person = byakuya -.-

  • October 26, 2012 at 2:46 amgawrshness

    well as far as I can tell Ishida has nothing to do with Ichigo learning Blut given that until this point Ishida never showed any signs of knowing the technique and his dad hasn’t even been around lately. I’m going with some of the other comments on the page saying that Kubo will have another asspull by explaining that Ichigo’s mom was a quincy or something.

  • October 26, 2012 at 3:58 amDavid

    Well, when Juha mentioned the whole resurrection thing, I thought he was referring to using the stolen Zanka no Tachi South.

  • October 26, 2012 at 4:15 amrazz

    wow that is bullshit………
    frigging human,substitute shinigami,visard,full bring, quincy……..
    i mean seriously wtf kubo.

  • October 26, 2012 at 5:45 amNaske

    I’ll just leave this here…
    http://imageshack.us/a/img248/9449/forrandomc.jpg

  • October 26, 2012 at 7:01 amK C M

    I can’t wait for the Anime to return.

  • October 26, 2012 at 7:35 amComM3

    blut vein AKA Plot Armour

  • October 26, 2012 at 8:48 amJello

    So much sadness…

    Sigh…In before the power of…love? Oh Kubo…

  • October 26, 2012 at 9:27 ambioreaper

    Maybe this Blut isn’t the Blut that is acquired by being an Quincy but Ichigo using his Fullbringer power on his blood. This would also validate why the Fullbringer arc was made , as there wouldn’t be a point (at the moment ) for Ichigo to learn Fullbringer powers when he is essentially not going to use them. On the other hand he could just of learnt it or it have been past on from his mother being a Quincy or something like that.

    • October 26, 2012 at 10:15 amtasa

      In order to fullbring you need to use your physical body to manipulate another physical object. In other words you can only fullbring when a soul is inside of a physical object (floor, neckless, Chad’s human cells, ect). A Quincy on the other hand manipulates spirit particles that are not inside of an object (spirit particles and living souls like hollows). Since Ichigo is in his soul form then it (blut) cannot be called fullbring since he is clearly not in his human body (physical body).

      At the moment I will be sticking to Ichigo’s mom is a Quincy.

      • October 26, 2012 at 10:45 ambioreaper

        Isn’t it possible that he could still be in his Human body as far as I can remember seeing his soul coming out of his body / seeing his body as a ‘blank’ when he was given his powers at the end of the fullbringer arc. However saying that it could of been off panel . I could be wrong about that as I could of just forgot about seeing it . Either way in my opinion it would be better than Ichigo being basically every being in the Bleach universe at once.

  • October 26, 2012 at 10:16 amion62

    It’s most unlikely, but could Ichigo’s zanpakuto resemble Aaroneiro’s release form? He kills enemies and takes part of their power. Maybe he gained his hollow ability from killing several lesser ones and absorbing their power, growing secretly more powerful just as he did. Killing the Quincy could have allowed him to take a portion of his power and then spontaneously release whatever could have been analyzed for the time. Also, having an enormous zanpakuto at the very beginning might not only mean great spiritual pressure, but also a large weapon to store the power that he could take from his opponents.

    Yeah, again, it’s MOST unlikely that this is a reason. But I don’t really want to believe that Ichigo’s part Quincy either, cause it be kind of weird. 1/4 human, 1/4 shinigami, 1/4 hollow, 1/4 Quincy. They might as well give him the powers of a bount as well and let him use a doll.

  • October 26, 2012 at 10:50 amKentaiyoshimi

    They told me I could be anything I wanted, so I became everything.

  • October 26, 2012 at 10:59 amKarma

    I just want to point out that however unlikely, this could not be some crazy absurd plot device and could make at least some sense.

    In it’s most basic form it seems like the blut veine or w/e is really just putting spiritual energy into your veins almost, which theoretically shouldn’t be the most absurd thing for someone else with immense spiritual energy and power to be able to replicate.

    As far as being part shinigami/hollow/quincy/fullbring…It seems like at least fullbring was completely removed when ginju absorbed his powers since that couldn’t simply be replaced by the shinigami and I’m also curious if he no longer has hollow powers due to the same thing, partly due to the fact we haven’t seen them since.

    Another possibility that I wouldn’t totally rule out is that when collecting power to put into the sword to restore ichigo’s powers they might have taken some from uryuu or his father which could be how ichigo might have gained quincy powers now.

    That said I’m really hoping it’s some way Ichigo is just replicating the quincy power and doesn’t have full-on quincy powers as that’s kind of crazy. I doesn’t seem too crazy for him to be duplicating this one however either figuring it out on his own, or having Urahara figure it out or possibly Uryuu or his father being the one that we saw at Urahara and could have helped explain it.

  • October 26, 2012 at 4:51 pmCelecia01

    I’m liking this Ichigo mum is a Quincy thing, it would explain why Isshin and Ryuken (Ury’s dad) know each other, however I reckon it’s probably simply that Ichigo saw Kirge use the technique and has somehow learned to copy it Similar to how he learned tetanus from Urahara, or (for you DBZ lovers out there) how Goku learned Kamehameha from Roshi during their fight.

  • October 26, 2012 at 6:21 pmKaineng

    Man totally agree with you Prooof, that most likely the Ishidas maybe involved in teaching Ichigo about those powers since he’s a spiritual being already. And I really think just Ichigo’s many types of powers would make him win anyone already, provided the opponent needs to have wide knowledge of his powers first? Looking forward to next of a snail-paced manga~

  • October 26, 2012 at 7:56 pm7godeohs

    This will be the last development before Bleach ends.:

    Ichigo IS the Spirit/Soul King. The King was injured in a battle and somehow lost his memory. For some reason his soul was reincarnated into Ichigo. So he has had these powers all along, but only on the brink of death does he unlock another one.

    …..and we’re done. Nothing to see here.

  • October 27, 2012 at 3:16 ambutitmoves

    I bet you that Ichigo beats Juhabach a la Naruto-style into Nagato-mode, who then uses the stolen Zanka no Tachi Minami to revive all the dead including Yamamoto himself.

  • October 27, 2012 at 3:39 amjingoi

    I’ll stick with “lolkubo” or “kubo’s just pulling things out his ass”.

    • October 27, 2012 at 11:11 pmSortedevaras

      This. No one person could plan so much stupid.

  • October 27, 2012 at 8:18 amEbisu

    That looked kind of a magic circuit of FSN but he is not Shiro and it isn’t strange for Ichigo to learn abilities of another class (shinigami, hollow, fullbringer and now quincy ;D). He probably knows the new technique by intuition or because quincy’s powers are just a kind of fullbring specialization I guess.

    Shall we discover know his mother was a quincy?

    • October 31, 2012 at 2:37 pmEbisu

      Bullseye! (about the mother)

  • October 27, 2012 at 8:02 pmLK

    Ichigo going Super Fusion Saiyan 3 Kaio Ken x 20 Giant Golden Ape Full Moon! AHHHH~!

  • October 28, 2012 at 6:39 pmElvenAlchemy

    Technically Ichigo’s mom does not have to be a Quincy for him to use Quincy powers.
    From my understanding Shinigami, Hollows, Fullbringers and Quincies are all human with the only differences between each is how you use spirit power/energy and if your “alive” or not.

    Now Ichigo has more or less mastered his control of internal spirit energy (Shinigami/Hollow) because that’s what he started “training” first and with the fullbring arc has taken the first steps in learning how to control external spirit energy (Quincy/Fullbring). Obviously the Quincy powers he’s suddenly started using can be considered an extension of what he learned from using Fullbring abilities.

    TL;DR Everyone is human and Ichigo has the best understanding of spirit energy.