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「コルキスの王女」 (Korukisu no Oujo)
“Princess of Colchis”

Exciting episode this week, because much of its contents did not exist in the original visual novel. There were broad outlines and some implications, but the details as seen here are anime original. They fill in some holes here and there, but also tie Unlimited Blade Works more closely to the greater Fate franchise, which has ballooned since its 2004 debut. References to Fate/Zero! References to hollow ataraxia! Retcons? Maybe. But new fans will appreciate the greater detail, and old fans will take pride in recognising how all the Fate universe is being tied together. It should be a win/win.

The only downside is that the plot does not advance far this week (though Saber has been allowed to sit down, at least). We’re taking a detour from your regularly scheduled programming to provide some back-story for Caster. She’s been a bit of an evil witch so far (yes, I know she doesn’t like being called that), so some insight into her past and her motivations is probably required to elevate her from just a 2D villain. She’s still a Bad Guy who does Bad Things, but her evil has to be understandable.

Hell hath no fury

For those of you who don’t recognise Medea just from her name being casually dropped in an anime, allow me to give a heavily abridged version. Her story varies greatly by the telling, much like all Greek myth, but she is generally associated with Jason, of Argonauts fame. Medea was the niece of Circe, whom you may remember as that one woman who turned men into swine in the Odyssey. Her father, the King of Colchis, sets Jason on a series of tasks before he would give him the Golden Fleece. Medea aids Jason on the promise that he would take her with him and marry her. It all goes well, Jason and Medea are happily married for some years, but eventually Jason runs off with some princess of Corinth, setting Medea on a campaign of revenge during which she did nasty things like poisoning her rival and murdering her own children. Great stuff. Very Greek.

In the Fate universe the legend of Medea differs somewhat—I don’t think she teleported around and shot laserbeams in the original Greek, for starters—but the general theme is: Medea has poor luck with men and ends up killing a lot of people. In the Holy Grail War, Caster’s first master was apparently some pimp who manages to be even more pathetic than his Fourth Grail War predecessor. He goes out of his way to make himself very unlikeable, doing the virgin sacrifices thing, doing the Fullmetal Alchemist thing (spoilers, spoilers), and getting all insecure when Caster’s was bigger than his (as men often do). So Caster kills him with fire, and we don’t feel too bad about it because he was a jerk for every second of his limited screen-time, but one must remember that Caster is still doing basically what he’s doing except more efficiently. The entire murderous spat was essentially over magus pride. Well, at least we know that at least one of the people Caster has killed was not a nice person. Hurray, sympathetic villain!

(Minor nitpick: how did Caster sever her contract with El-Melloi Junior without him noticing? When she stabbed Archer last week, Rin’s hand erupted in painful fireworks.)

Gilgamesh is the reason why we can’t have nice things

Meanwhile, back in the present, Rin and Shirou have a plan (or at least a map to stare at in lieu of a plan) and Illya seems to be feeling less homicidal today because she misses Fate/Zero, so it looks like our heroes may have a chance to get their Servants back with the help of a powerful ally. But guess who literally drops out of the sky? If there’s any indication that one is not going to have a good day in the Fate universe, it would be the appearance of Gilgamesh, the other rich blonde jackass who solves all his problems with money. For those of you wondering about the maids he pincushioned, they’re more or less a creation of Fate/hollow ataraxia, though if you watch the magical girl spinoff you’ll see them there too. I was hoping they’d get to be badass before they go (they’re anime maids! They’re all elite warror-assassins!) but, alas, Gilgamesh and his automatic sword dispenser is no less hax after 10 years of downtime. One small victory: they managed to get some of their litres of artistically-pooling homunculus blood on Gil’s shoes. Now he’ll need new shoes. Ha, take that!

Looking ahead

It’s seems like we’re going to have that big fight between Gilgamesh and Heracles shown off in the OP already. At least, Illya is now mad, Berserker is always mad, and a fight looks ready to go. It should be a good one next episode, because while Gilgamesh is stupid broken, Heracles was still nominally the first big boss of the Unlimited Blade Works route and the previous, and he’s bloody Heracles. Don’t worry about the preview. I’m sure those don’t hurt as bad as they look.

Full-length images: 04, 35.

Preview

April 12, 2015 at 6:25 am
127 comments »
  • April 12, 2015 at 6:37 amanothercat

    • April 12, 2015 at 3:17 pmKnight Valfodr

      Here is a .gif of that ^^

      • April 13, 2015 at 12:19 pmHiro

        Mmm whatcha saaaay

  • April 12, 2015 at 6:42 amblakraven66

    Caster’s master is not an El-Melloi. They just represent the same organization, The Clock Tower.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:08 amboingman

      Oh, good to know. I was about to ask if the jackass from the previous war was his father or something.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:14 amPasserby

      I may have interpreted that line generously, as that he inherited the El-Melloi name after Archibald. I could well be wrong. He has a very similar attitude, anyway.

      • April 12, 2015 at 7:19 amyokushi

        Funnily, the one who inherited the El-Melloi name was Waver, actually. It is all in the background materials.

      • April 12, 2015 at 7:42 amblakraven66

        Kayneth’s attitude is actually the most sterotypical among Magi.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:24 amJerry

      Actually, Caster’s Master reminds me a lot of the people I’ve seen in the Middle East, in particular some of the Saudi Royals parading through Bahrain. Quite an entourage, but you never wanted to look at the wives, because if any of them were untrained enough to accidentally meet your eye contact, they would be publicly beaten or worse. Wives, daughters and concubines are a matter of property in this part of the world.

  • April 12, 2015 at 6:44 amKurisu Vi Britannia

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20stay%20night/Fate%20stay%20night%20ubw%20-%2014%20-%20Large%2034.jpg

    When the blood of a homunculi solidifies it will become a kenja no ishi!

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:01 amTohno

    Fuck you gil, maids are not made to be killed.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:03 amNadester

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20stay%20night/Fate%20stay%20night%20ubw%20-%2014%20-%20Large%2026.jpg
    What’s an episode of Fate/stay night without Rin’s outbursts. Lol

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:08 amMisterMarty

    Knowing where things are heading I can say I am reasonably hyped. Now that being said, this episode was indeed slightly slower but that’s okay because as far as I remember we never really got any indication of who Caster’s original master was. So getting these fine details is definitely a welcome edition for me. I feel bad about Sella and Leysritt, they couldn’t even get off some badass swings in there. Gill bro, I know you think you’re hot shit but come on, give your opponents a fighting chance, otherwise you really will keep staying bored forever. If next week is going to adapt what I think it will…it’s really going to pull at my heartstrings.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:17 ambelatkuro

      it’s really going to pull at my heartstrings.

      Oh you (☞゚∀゚)☞

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:31 pmGuy

      Lets put it this way. At the advance screening, a good amount of people already knew what was going to happen and yet by the end of next week’s episode, it was more or less a stunned silence. Everyone knew they had to applaud because we just finished the screening and compliments to Aniplex, yet after watching that episode, applause was the last thing you wanted to do. So yes, its going to pull at your heartstrings. Its going to tug on them raw.

    • April 13, 2015 at 1:56 amKurisu Vi Britannia

      O tanoshimi ni~

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:10 amgawrshness

    ah let’s prepare for a feels train.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:11 amPetro

    I’m satisfied for the new content. But i think it was a mistake for Caster’s master story. A mage sent from the magic association that takes (too many)kids for raw material are normally persecuted by the church or the magic associaton executors( like Kirei, Bazett or kiritsugu) and would never be chosen to represent the magic association. ( from my memory from the VN i can only recall that caster’s master was very insecure for having a servant more powerful in magic than him).

    How delighful for Leisritt and Sena appearing (carnival phantasm and kaleid doesnt count) making a skit with ilya. So sad we couldn’t see Liz fighting skill shine as the homunculus specially made for fighting. (That’s why she can’t talk properly.) Sella doesn’t have battle skills. I’ll be waiting for their reappearence,Liz and shirou trolling Sena skit

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:47 amRavenlord

      It depends how the kids are taken, though. Parading around the city with a magical flute and collecting all the children? That’s way too flashy to be ignored.

      Buying them from various means, probably from human traffickers? That doesn’t make you big profile, so the FS/N church is going to be fine with it.

      Remember, the church’s primary concern is keeping the lid on this whole matter.

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:10 pmKami

      Liz and Sella’s appearance in Prisma does count. Nasu confirmed it as canon in one of his interviews.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:14 amboingman

    Great episode, as reader of the VN I really enjoyed or all those anime original parts, though I don’t remember how much of Caster’s backstory was at least implied in the game. Is there any source for the origin and Alchemist parts of her previous master or is that really the idea of the writer of the anime adaptation? I remember there also existing a pretty good doujin depicting her previous master thoug that one looked differently and seemed more like a loser IIRC.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:18 amOwaranai

    Rin always entertains as usual, but I like how they went deeper into Caster’s character and cast her (no pun intended) in a different light instead of being a full-out villain that is pure evil and deserves no sympathy.

    I can’t say I’ve grown considerably more sympathetic to her, but there is a greater understanding of her character through a relatively tame episode which also actually anaged to progress the plot at the same time. Kudos to her for killing off Gold-haired bastard. Not sure if he was the final piece to finally break Medea’s will not to stoop too low just to achieve her objectives though, since it was implied that she could make use of innocent lives to justify her ends, as she seemed very much against the needless taking of lives. What I do know is that she’s now a more complex character.

    I’m not too sure what to make of the humor inserted either, especially with Shinji. Perhaps the one saving grace he has was to be a gag character of sorts and the scene masks the severity of what happens next when the jester comes before the king.

    Oh the other hand, Rin and Shirou never seem to get a break. The talisman they were hoping to gain against Medea will soon be locked in battle with the King of Heroes, and even without prior knowledge of UBW this will not end well for Ilya and Heracles, as the – and I quote – ‘other rich blonde jackass’ has set the stage with him as the champion and Heracles the challenger. I do hope to see an epic battle that lives up to the next episode’s name though, at least before the shit hits the fan once more.

    Is it me, or does Lancer look particularly unwilling to carry out the orders from his master to kill Caster off? Knowing him to be the honorable side-character, it feels like he has a bigger part to play yet in this eddy of glorious madness.

    Excellent episode, and good work on the review Passerby.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:42 amJerry

      It is best stated that compelling stories require relatable characters.

      Caster’s backstory and motivations provide something for the spectator to relate to, whether that spectator agrees or sympathizes with it or not.

      A vicious beast that simply tears apart child for no reason is simply an animate force – an object – and an uninteresting one at that.

      A vicious beast that tears apart a child because the child has a history of kicking and torturing him is relatable, and merits more backstory – and interest.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:48 amHanabira.Kage

      Hmm yeah. It seems so me that she doesn’t mind stooping real low, the only beef she had with that blonde jackass was that his system was inefficient.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:19 amRyan Ashfyre

    Next Week = Pain :(

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:41 amXellos

      More exactly, heartache.

      • April 12, 2015 at 10:34 amTechim

        Even more exactly; Show Spoiler ▼

    • April 12, 2015 at 11:59 amPasserby

      Guys. Stop it.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:20 amChristian

    All the judges agrees that Shinji gets 10/10 for his artistic nose-dive.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:23 amEamonX

    The anime-original parts were definitely great to watch.

    And any Gilgamesh scene is always fabulous to behold.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:54 amJerry

      I love the way Sella does her countdown to impel Shinji to leave.

      The entire scene is entertaining.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:23 ambelatkuro

    • April 12, 2015 at 10:44 amFlappy

      Well he did kind off kill Rider off, so I guess… True?

      But in all seriousness, no one takes Shinji seriously, Gil doesnt really give a F**K, the maids did not recognise him as a master and played around with him and Kirei treats him as sport. Guess we will hvae to wait till FSN:HF for something dramatic to occur to him (Please no spoilers ppl).

      • April 12, 2015 at 1:10 pmInanis

        lol wha? nah that wasnt shinji (the one that killed rider)..

        .. no way wimp supreme could take on even the pinkie of a servant.

      • April 12, 2015 at 10:22 pmFlappy

        What I was alluding to was Shinji’s incompetence that got Rider killed.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:34 amLorhand

    Illya’s maids, Sella and Leysritt, actually do have a few scenes in FSN. Most, if not all, are optional though, so I believe there is a chance the player will never see them. They do have more scenes in Fate/hollow ataraxia though.

    • April 12, 2015 at 12:02 pmPasserby

      I don’t remember much of them from the original, and that’s the point, I guess: ‘more or less a creation of Fate/hollow ataraxia, in that before they weren’t really much in the way of characters.

  • April 12, 2015 at 7:41 amAmiluhur

    So uh, reducing little children into red mulch… at least it’s a bit satisfying to get to see the bastard responsible for that killed off.

  • April 12, 2015 at 8:00 amlividsama

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:41 amshalrus

      A waste of perfect tits is always a sad day.

      You are supposed to FUCK the maids, not FUCK THEM UP !!

      • April 12, 2015 at 10:56 amFlappy

        I will let you in on some insider information.

        Show Spoiler ▼

      • April 12, 2015 at 9:05 pmKami

        They’re homunculi, not human. Normal laws don’t apply to them.

      • April 12, 2015 at 10:23 pmFlappy

        Hmm, I guess thats true…

      • April 13, 2015 at 10:23 amKurisu Vi Britannia

        Just imagine how old Irisviel was when she had Ilya.

      • April 22, 2015 at 10:03 pmMainman

        Well this might not sound cool but Sella and Leysritt might still be warn so you know have at them.

      • April 22, 2015 at 10:23 pmRyan Ashfyre

        @Mainman:

        You’re right, that doesn’t sound cool at all. Very much so. Disturbingly so. For-the-love-of-Madoka-why-would-you-even-post-something-like-that so.

      • April 23, 2015 at 9:03 pmMainman

        @Ryan Ashfyre

        It’s like the 5 second rule when you drop your donut on the ground except in this situation the donut hole belong to maids that have been dead for 5 minutes and you still want to get your dunk on.

  • April 12, 2015 at 8:39 amSMinstrel

    I like the (minor) detail that Gil treat the homunculi with respect – an attitude he never show to anyone else, not even broskander.

    Because his one and only friend Enkidu is a homunculus (well not really a homunculus per se, but close enough).

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:42 amGoXDS

      Gilgamesh did respect Iskander. a ton. he even welcomed him back for another battle and admired his loyal army. Gil’s just “I’m the one and only true king”. he also respected Waver’s loyalty. even if he has respect though, he’s still an ass to everyone

      • April 12, 2015 at 7:23 pmSMinstrel

        No, Gil called Broskander various variation of ‘trash’ and ‘bastard’. He respect him more than, say, Lancelot, Saber and Assassin(s), but that’s not saying much.

        Here Gil started the conversation with praise, and getting all sentimental after killing the homunculi, this is miles better than he treat anyone in Fate/Zero.

      • April 12, 2015 at 8:49 pmnyanlol

        I wouldn’t say “sentimental” but ending her life by cutting her head off with a sword is better than most people get from Gil. Fun fact, in medieval europe, only the nobility got offed with a sword. the peasantry got the axe. I don’t know about the customs in babylon, but I still feel the implication is there

      • April 13, 2015 at 5:53 amyokushi

        Gil respected Iskandar, that was the whole point of their final battle and why he used Enkidu and Ea. He only called him mongrel at first, but when Gil got what Iskandar was really about he began to treat him like a king too. Their whole fight is Gilgamesh being serious for a while.

  • April 12, 2015 at 8:52 amdimasok

    Is Gilgamesh the Aizen of Fate/Night?

    • April 12, 2015 at 11:22 amHalfDemonInuyasha

      Eh, not really. He doesn’t really plan things in any great detail from what we’ve seen. That’s more Kotomine’s style.

      Gilgamesh just goes in and fucks shit up because he’s just that hax.

  • April 12, 2015 at 9:01 amTassadar

    Seems you know your Greek stuff Passerby. As a Greek myself, I am more than pleased with your quick roundup of Medea’s myth! I actually laughed out hard at this:

    “…setting Medea on a campaign of revenge during which she did nasty things like poisoning her rival and murdering her own children. Great stuff. Very Greek.”

    Very Greek indeed! Greek mythology is full of such dramatic and brutal stories; I wonder why…

    Too bad that’s only as much as we will see of Sella and Leysritt in UBW. Best maidos ever. Also, you might want to fix the typo on your “hollow araxtaria” mentions ;)

    • April 12, 2015 at 12:06 pmPasserby

      Fixed! Though, as far as I’m concerned, ‘ataraxia’ is just a dyslexic jumble of letters. It’s all Greek to me.

      • April 12, 2015 at 1:34 pmTassadar

        I guess for non native Greek speakers, it is sort of a “mess-of-letters” word. For reference, ataraxia (ἀταραξία) means tranquility; although there is a good chance you already know the etymology of the word. ;)

  • April 12, 2015 at 9:10 amMisserable

    Those poor maids! I thought the movie version was painful enough, and they make it so that even maids feel the pain….
    Type Moon, please fix the movie version. Add two more grave stones into the castle’s backyard!!!

  • April 12, 2015 at 9:32 amTheVoid

    Well at least he finished off the last maid personally instead of just spamming swords again or letting her die from bloodloss. Pretty much the closest he gets to showing respect to someone is when he dirties his own hands, or in this case his shoes.

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:43 amGoXDS

      don’t forget he used his personal weapon on Iskander and struck him personally

  • April 12, 2015 at 9:45 amOP_Man

    https://data.archive.moe/board/a/image/1401/59/1401597750217.jpg
    It was sad seeing Sella And Liz died. They both good maids :( see you in Prisma Illya next season

  • April 12, 2015 at 10:01 amp.s

    Just a mention but Caster hasn’t killed a single person in the city through sucking mana, only put them unconcious. She’s definitely not ‘good’ but she’s not evil either; she’s only doing what she needs to do to accomplish her goals.

    • April 12, 2015 at 12:08 pmPasserby

      Right, let’s just drain people’s souls. Nothing bad’s going to happen. It’ll just tickle a bit.

      • April 12, 2015 at 1:22 pmInanis

        actually she COULD eat the WHOLE soul.. effectively killing the person (IIRC Shinji forces RIDER to do this, even to some schoolmates).

        Caster is not “pure evil”… but her morals are so twisted that they are pretty close … IIRC she is classes as “Neutral Evil” in the fate wiki .. that means she basically just looks after herself and will do ANYTHING she could get away with in order to help herself (be it evil or good deeds) .. she IS committed to 1 thing tho (her master Souichirou)

        not saying she doesnt have a reason to be that way.. in the fate cannon she got betrayed at every turn and was basically a plaything for the gods (IIRC the only one to show affection to her is Souichirou and that is why she is loyal to him)

        meh i always thought that both Rider and Medea were underused in the past anime… good to see some more scenes with Medea (pity Rider’s scenes were so short tho)

      • April 12, 2015 at 10:09 pmHeh

        HEADS UP: I love Kerry but bear with me here.

        Compare Caster to the fan-favourite Magus Killer, Emiya Kiritsugu.
        In the end who has killed more?

        Medea is a saint compared to Kiritsugu but nope, she gets the witch treatment while fans allow Kerry to play the tragic card to his heart’s content.

    • April 12, 2015 at 12:13 pmWorldwideDepp

      In Matrix they did not kill the Human Heatpower Batteries, so caster here did not kill them because a Dead Human do not give any Mana anymore. Its like reap the Fruits of the Tree and not kill it, to fill your Stomach tomorrow

      • April 12, 2015 at 12:27 pmFlameStrike

        I think you’re being a bit harsh on Caster. Look at her track record, what really EVIL things has she done?

        First, she set those 50 little girls free, despite having no reason to. They were all unconscious and etc. She could have easily pulled a Kotomine and “used” them for her own ends. Lancer showed up later yes, but before that she could have shipped them away with her magic into her own factory or something.

        Second, she drains the city of magic yes, but takes care not to kill anyone. Of course you can interpret it as “lol why throw away rechargeable batteries?” But think about it another way, why take care to save rechargeable batteries when you have tons of them lying around ready to use? There are so many humans in Fuyuki that Caster could easily drain them to death willy nilly and still be set for the duration of the war. Heck that was Shinji’s plan with Rider. One school’s worth of kids would have powered her up significantly. The last war’s Caster too. now HE was a villain without scruples. Of course you can argue that Caster’s just trying to lay low and not be too noticeable, but I look at her past actions (Her freeing the kids, her not wanting to be known as an evil “Witch”) and it looks more to me as she has her own set of morals.

        She doesn’t hesitate use things to her advantage. I mean she DID take Fuji-nee hostage, but look at what she did after wards. Instead of just keeping her for the lulz, or using her as a shield against Shirou for later, she kept her word and let her go. How many truly evil villains would do something like that? Plus Shirou and co were kind of her enemies in a death match for the Holy Grail.

        From my point of view, Caster is just another participant in the war. She doesn’t go easy on her enemies (Saber, Shirou, Rin, Archer) etc but she doesn’t go out of her way to be evil. No slaughtering of children and turning them into screaming living pipe organs for this Caster.

        The only thing I really don’t like about her is the way she treats Assassin.

      • April 12, 2015 at 7:49 pmPasserby

        @Flamestrike

        Surely, one can do evil on another without killing them. I mean, she’s torturing Saber as we speak. Morality cannot be that binary. She’s not the worst of those who fight the Holy Grail War, to be sure, but that says more about the states of depravity this conflict falls to.

        I do admit, though, that the UBW anime portrayal of her is by far the most positive one she’s had to date.

      • April 12, 2015 at 8:48 pmDrew

        Well, the writers clearly are intending the viewers to go with that perspective. All the snide comments from other Servants about her lack of fortitude towards killing, her interactions with Shirou and almost fear when he almost essentially called her bluff about killing what’s her face, etc.

        I agree that while Caster may not be a “good” person, she’s not nearly as “hard” as pretty much every other Servant we’ve seen, and I think viewers who seem to think she’s some evil witch-relative to what all the other Servants are capable of, is kind of amusing in that it feeds the narrative the writer(s) obviously have going for her, as being overly persecuted for the level of her actual (mis)deeds.

        Poor woman. Can’t catch any breaks at all. Meanwhile, the only other female Servant with more than 5 minutes of screen time is a fan favorite, in her toe-the-line servitude, demeanor, and poise. Ah, how Caster must rage at the social injustices, both in the fictional world, and that found through its fourth wall.

        lol

      • April 13, 2015 at 2:39 amSMinstrel

        @Flamestrike

        Now you mention it, Caster’s action actually sounds better than Kiritsugu…what with taking hostage to force Kayneth to kill Lancer (and then kill the hostage anyway).

    • April 13, 2015 at 9:38 amAxe Armor

      She’s not THAT good. She’s not as bad as Gilgamesh (he’s ranked as “Chaotic Good” but that’s probably just his weird existence affecting the basic definitions of good and evil. He’s pretty awful pretty much all the time in practice), but she’s not principled or anything. Kiritsugu’s methods were just as dirty, but they were always done for some ideal good. Caster’s motivation is purely selfish. That she doesn’t kill that many people doesn’t change the fact that she does hurt lots of them, for her own benefit alone.

      • April 13, 2015 at 9:56 amWorldwideDepp

        She has 2 Servants to feed with mana, and for herself Mana for Battle Spells… So She has a high demand Mana supply only on Standby…

  • April 12, 2015 at 10:22 amAndmeuths

    See you next season, Sella and Leysritt! In a slightly more kinder world, in the Magical girl spinoff that Nasu himself recognizes as the Illya route. The next we’d see you, you’d all be on the beach celebrating the summer!

  • April 12, 2015 at 10:37 amswa

    Fuck you Gilgamesh!
    Burn in hell already you inhuman king of assholes!
    FUCKING DIE!
    -KTHXBYE

  • April 12, 2015 at 10:43 amFood

  • April 12, 2015 at 10:53 amflCer

    Well, I guess I’m of the minority when I say I’m damn excited when I see the shower of swords. I’ve waited 14 episodes for his gates and finally got the flying swords. Everyone hates jesus-type characters, but Gilgamesh is just charismatically dazzling. To my knowledge, I’m a sane, logical, and nice person, but I’m really looking forward to seeing more of Gilgamesh flaunting all sorts of insults with his pride and arrogance.

    He’s the 1 OP character that I never managed to hate.

    • April 12, 2015 at 3:55 pmTechim

      Funny you mention jesus-type characters..
      Now I wonder how OP Gilgamesh will fare versus Mahouka’s almost immortal Magic-Jesus-Tatsuya

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:30 pmGoodwill Wright

      We also had Kazuki “Jesus” Makabe from Exodus this season.

    • April 13, 2015 at 9:42 amAxe Armor

      Charisma: A+

  • April 12, 2015 at 11:28 amHalfDemonInuyasha

    I demand someone make a GIF of Rin’s shock. XD

    And yeah…I’m both hyped for and dreading next episode…

  • April 12, 2015 at 1:34 pmechykr

    Quite amazed that Lancer’s Master actually bothered to read the letter from Caster’s Master and sent Lancer to try and finish off Caster early on.

    Even more amusing that Caster’s Master appointed Kirei as the messenger, if you know what I mean.

    RIP Sela and Liz, we shall meet again for less gore more fun in 3 months time in Prisma Illya zwei herz. Unfair Haxx0r Blondie can go fuck himself.

  • April 12, 2015 at 1:35 pmFlobb3k

    God I hate Gilgamesh. He’s the stupid OP Cousin of King Joffrey. Or perhaps far related brothers. Whatever, both are jerks.

    • April 12, 2015 at 7:40 pmZweilous

      I also hate Gil, but in a good way.

    • April 12, 2015 at 9:26 pmSMinstrel

      Joffrey is a wimp, maybe he and Shinji is related.

    • April 13, 2015 at 1:53 amFlamestrike

      Eh Gil is not the most likeable character, but he’s a far cry from that Geoffrey. Geoffrey is a lot like Shinji though.

    • April 13, 2015 at 10:52 amAxe Armor

      It’s sort of interesting. Joffrey’s really more like Shinji, in that everyone despises them unanimously, whereas Gilgs actually has fans, and in spite of the fact that all three behave with much the same petty snobbery and often self-destructive arrogance.

      I think the main difference comes down to agency. Joffrey and Shinji do nasty things, but they always take it a bit too far, like it’s acting out, and it’s the inferiority complex calling the shots. They boss people around, but are easily taken in and manipulated by flatterers. And they’re physically unimpressive, and are ignobly beaten up with some frequency. Gilgamesh is not always dignified (see: Carnival Phantasm; “WOMEN AND CHILDREN LOLOLOLOL”), but he has flashes of competence, like his unexpectedly methodical handling of Kirei in Fate/Zero. He’s hard to control not because he’s mentally unstable, but because he’s difficult to please. And, of course, he has absurd physical powers such that being roughed up by a disapproving family member is never really a possibility. It’s easy to dislike him, but it’s very hard not to want to be him. He’s an asshole, but he’s only exactly as much of an asshole as he feels like being, and he doesn’t have to prove it to anybody.

  • April 12, 2015 at 2:10 pmTsubasamoon

    Don’t worry Illya will avenge her maids in the summer season Prisma Illya Zwei Herz

  • April 12, 2015 at 2:21 pmAbikill

    i’ll skip the next ep……dont wanna see illya die

  • April 12, 2015 at 3:05 pmelmaton

    Poor Illya, I will hate to see her died on the next episode. I guess Gilgamesh is the only one that stop Caster now.

  • April 12, 2015 at 3:23 pmRev

    Just to say, last ep had about 2-3 minutes of Caster trashing the place and taking out her frustration on poor Saber cut because of TV restrictions
    Then on this ep, there’s 7 minutes cut because~ TV restrictions!

    And the dress last ep was a reference to Medea: the play in which Medea uses a poisoned dress on Jason’s new wife to have a powerplay over him. Personally, I don’t see that as fanservice but rather utilizing of the original legends/tales/plays to a good degree.
    People have to try and get their minds out the gutter sometimes~

    • April 12, 2015 at 4:19 pmScruffy

      They’re not cut because of Tv restrictions, they were cut because they were unnecessary trashy fanservice.

      • April 12, 2015 at 4:54 pmRev

        There’s a difference between trashy fanservice and demeaning a character’s psych by humiliating them while trying to gain control over their mentality with a Command Seal.
        It may be fanservice to people, but I see it as a callout and utilizing of Medea’s backstory to a good degree in-story.

        And the episode length plus cut scenes would be 26 minutes which is pushing the TV time restrictions hence the need to cut it into 23 minutes.

      • April 12, 2015 at 5:05 pmScruffy

        I’m sorry but most people don’t want to see Sabre being sexually abused by Caster. That can be kept for the hentai freaks. It’s clearly implied what was going on and that was enough. Any more is just crass fanservice.

      • April 12, 2015 at 6:30 pmRev

        Umm Where was the sexual stuff?
        Caster was basically just putting Saber in an embarrassing position which attacks her psych while having a Command Seal that forces Saber to submit to her. The only thing that adds the sexuality here is Saber being in a precarious position and whatever viewers think.
        Also, the “any more” is what I said. Caster trashing the place looking for the Grail vessel, failing to do so, lightly touches Saber, and that’s it.
        And none of that is fanservice but to you people. If there are questionable scenes which is explained with logical reasoning of the characters involved as well as giving more insight to their psychs, then I do not call them “trash fanservice” but rather simply “questionable scenes”.

      • April 12, 2015 at 9:06 pmWorldwideDepp

        So, as long there is no Penetration it is all Okay? No Sexual Harassment is that for you? You read to many Hentais that had poison your sense of female Justice

    • April 12, 2015 at 10:04 pmHeh

      “most people don’t want to see Sabre being sexually abused by Caster”
      You’d be surprised.

      You guys need to understand that fanservice/plot is not mutually exclusive. Saber is a strong, independent woman (I’m saying this unironically) to the point that she does not even consider herself a woman; a detail that is emphasized greatly in the Fate route. For Caster to put her in a wedding dress, of all things, in SUCH a position, it truly is meant to deal psychological damage to her. However, you can’t deny it’s not fanservice either.

      Would it have been better if it was excluded? Who knows. Fate wasn’t too popular when it started, it needed scenes like this (+ H scenes) to attract Otaku in Japan– the prime audience for Visual Novels. Plus if Ufotable had skipped this scene, you BET people would have been pissed.

  • April 12, 2015 at 3:51 pmReikakou

    If I can only skip the next episode… I was really shocked on that scene on the UBW movie.

    • April 12, 2015 at 4:08 pmOP_Man

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    • April 12, 2015 at 9:19 pmBob

      Its going to be gut-wrenching. Studio Dean’s UBW rendition was actually pretty tame in comparison with next week’s episode. Tragic and absolutely brutal.

  • April 12, 2015 at 5:45 pmArchiepiscopus

    Euripides was required reading for this episode, wouldn’t you say?

    Also, Medea is indeed sucking people’s energy but it’s still not quite near the pogrom this guy was doing.

  • April 12, 2015 at 8:45 pmhotDoge

  • April 12, 2015 at 8:57 pmrandom viewer

  • April 13, 2015 at 12:26 amewok40k

    I’m all for an epic battle of Gilgamesh vs Berserker (with Rin and Shiro meddling in the affairs of wizards and servants, too)

    • April 13, 2015 at 10:10 amWorldwideDepp

      If the Show will not have an 3rd Master without Servant, then both will perhaps attack Gilgamesh’s Master to force him to retreat or Defend his Master. Remember killing the Master or hurt him, is not good for the Servant either.

      I think that will end this battle. Both will attack his Master, and he must retreat. Berserker well.. he surly will not have an easy battle.

      But let’s see

  • April 13, 2015 at 12:35 amKF

  • April 13, 2015 at 12:56 amMormegil

    What was up with Lancer showing up in that scene?

    And what was Kotomine talking about right after Caster’s douchebag master left the church? Something about Lancer’s master, I think…

    All the Lancer stuff confused me in Caster’s flashback. Do we even know who his master is yet?

    • April 13, 2015 at 1:57 amFlamestrike

      It’s never been stated out right, but sufficient hints have been presented to m for the viewers to figure out who Lancer’s current master is.

  • April 13, 2015 at 3:44 amkawaiigendo

    Yay,finally a much needed episode that gives focus to other servants/masters,not to mention creating new scenes that was genuinely surprising.

  • April 13, 2015 at 3:46 amkawaiigendo

    Finally a much needed episode that gives focus to other servants/masters,not to mention creating new scenes that was genuinely surprising.

  • April 13, 2015 at 3:47 amkawaiigendo

    sorry for double comment

  • April 13, 2015 at 5:11 amdark

    well the next episode will be sad u.u

  • April 13, 2015 at 5:33 amLawson

    Someone, spoil me about Gilgamesh. I know the basic information, but why is he in the game? And does he even care about anyone? Or just fucks everyone?

    • April 13, 2015 at 5:56 amyokushi

      In this route he got something similar to an objective. He already foreshadowed it in a previous episode.

    • April 13, 2015 at 9:11 amWorldwideDepp

      Gilgamesh

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    • April 14, 2015 at 10:30 amholycrazy

      Can’t exactly remember but Gilgamesh has a reason why he is fighting…
      If I remember correctly it’s along these lines…
      “I’m the king, and the world is mine,
      what’s wrong with getting something
      (the grail) that should be mine???”
      or something like that…

  • April 13, 2015 at 9:33 amWorldwideDepp

    btw, are these the Only Servants we get to see? or will there more of them, like this Red Hair one? from the other Fate Anime (not to spoil his name)

  • April 13, 2015 at 10:16 amelmaton

    I hope we see Gilgamesh take on Caster next, it’s pretty clear that he is going to win on the next episode base on the PV. Poor Illya :(

  • April 14, 2015 at 1:57 amPrivate

    RIP the Maids. I hope Berserker kick your ass.

  • April 14, 2015 at 4:19 pmboingman

    Anyone else here who would like to basically spoil what happens in the next episode by implying? Really subtle…NOT.
    Thankfully, most ppl commenting here probably already knew anyways. But there are always newbies.

    Lancer vs Caster: Guess this is where the scene from the OP comes into play.

  • April 18, 2015 at 12:09 pmWorldwideDepp

    Ep 15:

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    I am unable to give this Episode an Rating, for several reasons (No spoiler mina-san)

    • April 18, 2015 at 12:13 pmWorldwideDepp

      i think i found an comparing for my bitterness.. You all know the Legendary Shitstorm of Mass Effect 3 ending? There you got it

    • April 18, 2015 at 3:01 pmswa

      What the hell?
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    • April 18, 2015 at 3:59 pmWorldwideDepp

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