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「「ヒーロー殺しステイン」その余波」 (Hiirou-Goroshi Sutein Sono Yoha)
“The Aftermath of Hero Killer: Stain”

Vile ideologies can spread like wildfire, and do irreperable damage. That also happens in this fictional story.

The original manga release dates of the Stain arc vouchsafe that Horikoshi-sensei was planning all of this before the recent . . . unpleasantness the developed world has been undergoing came to the fore of the popular consciousness. In other words, he had to be planning all this before the effects of Brexit, Trumpism, Le Pen, and all the rest became clear to most people. The idea that he landed upon, though, and which underpins Stain’s power as an enduring villain (even if he had died, or if he never shows up again), is the same. A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, and the same is true of caustic ideologies of violence, hate, and villainy. So it is in fiction, so it is in real life. This arc was prescient when it first came out, and timely as it airs now—though, it’s not like this is anything new. We’re just seeing it play out via memes and internet videos, which is another place Horikoshi-sensei nailed it.

This episode also shows how society can react to this, at least in part. The police chief is determined to uphold the law, and that means punishing those who violate it, even if they did it for reasons that he himself agrees were good. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t willing to fudge things a bit, in this case by crediting the takedown to a credentialed hero instead of the students who actually beat Stain. It sucks for them, but it’s also right for society. Heroes without accountability who work outside the system are nothing but vigilantes, and another word for vigilante is criminal. Society has to be flexible, but it cannot surrender the rules by which it organizes itself and the morals by which it lives. Otherwise it truly is all a sham, and the Stains of the world will have exacted a victory.

But seriously, can they just rename the hero profession to something else? If they were all called Supers instead, then half of Stain’s argument falls apart. Then they’d just be people doing jobs, and “hero” would be reserved for those who do something truly great. Not that it’s going to stop some people from calling them heroes, but when your argument is based on a linguistic quirk, maybe your argument is shit.

The area in which society failed to blunt Stain’s legacy is in letting his ideology get out, though perhaps they couldn’t have stopped that even if they had seriously tried, and perhaps they shouldn’t have anyway. This gets into realms of censorship and free speech, and whether there are some ideologies that are so repugnant as to be incompatible with civil society, in which case they should be ruthlessly stamped out—and those are questions to which I do not have the answers. I’ve thought about them, the ‘ol “When should you punch a nazi?” question, and where the line is from words just being words to words being weapons. I mean, obviously you should punch a nazi when they start shoving people in concentration camps, but before then? My rule of thumb is to avoid punching anyone unless it’s to stop violence—you’re okay, boys—but it’s undeniable that allowing Stain’s ideology to get out there is going to do a lot of harm, and not just because that’s what Horikoshi-sensei decided would happen. It’s happening in real life too, though fortunately with less colorful results. Most of the time.

They probably wouldn’t have been able to stop it getting out anyway. The enemy general is too clever. This was all according to keikaku. And keikaku means plan.

Kudos to Manual for being such a great guy. Endeavor might get all the plaudits, but Manual is more my kind of hero, the one who will help positively shape Iida as a person through kindness, stern warnings, and forgiveness. And then Gran Torino and All Might start talking about a villain who has reemerged, the one who gave the Nomus their quirks and killed All Might’s predecessor and hobbled the Symbol of Peach himself, and name dropped All For One… Well. Shit, son. This is heating up in a big way.

Next week is an anime original episode about the others students’ internships, and yeah, I’m worried. I’m all for those who adapt stories taking liberties with the source, to improve it and tweak things for the changed medium, but some source material just works as a straight adaptation with not even pacing changes required, and HeroAca appears to be one of ‘em. (Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is my archetypal example, because that one just seemed to work so well as an anime.) This anime original episode could be good, it could be fun! And I’m glad, if they were going to do it, they decided to do it after the arc, where the breather (for us viewers) is fine, as opposed to in the middle of the arc where I woulda been piiiissed. But still, trepidation. I guess we’ll see how it goes.

Random thoughts:

  • Heroes remind me of football players, where a short career can end with debilitating injuries that will plague them for the rest of their lives. All Might will be plagued by his injuries for the rest of his life, and now Iida might too, even though he’s so much younger. (Oh, and Iida’s older brother.) Which probably is an indictment against American football and a few other sports as much as anything else.
  • Special points go to Izuku for realizing that it wasn’t about him, he can’t beat himself up for not stopping Iida, and not apologizing to him again. Also, special points go to Todoroki for not realizing that it’s not about him, and worrying that he’s the Hand Crusher. Hah!

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August 5, 2017 at 10:25 pm
55 comments »
  • August 5, 2017 at 10:43 pmarc

    ALL HAIL THE SYMBOL OF PEACH

    • August 5, 2017 at 10:57 pmNex

      Oh fruitian slips, they happen to the best of us.

    • August 6, 2017 at 12:52 amStilts

      You know what? I’m leaving it. I got a good laugh!

    • August 6, 2017 at 7:29 amKuro

      He will save you from DIS PEAR!

    • August 7, 2017 at 1:36 amHanover Fist

      Orange you glad he’s here to inspire us?

  • August 5, 2017 at 10:50 pmsouma

    http://randomc.net/image/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia%20-%2031%20-%20Large%2013.jpg

    well i can see why stain getting desperate…haha

    “But seriously, can they just rename the hero profession to something else?”

    that’s what i think when i hear stain argument…change the name or the goverment can just made special section of the police…like S.W.A.T or whatever for anti-mutant(quirk haha) so there’s no problem with the name and also the system itself..because someone like midoriya will be registered as police trainee not some hero wannabe.

    • August 5, 2017 at 11:13 pmDorian S.

      Unfortunately you can’t now. The world has been with heroes for so long that it is a branding issue. And it would only be seen as a downgrade from heroes. You would literally need to come up with a new word that branding wise, felt exactly like heroes, but different form heroes. And that is the hardest thing ever, coming up with a new brand to replace an older one.

      Basically what you would need to do with supers if you really want to try it, is do a change that modifies it slowly and over a period of time. However, this period of time is roughly like 10-30 years. And depending on Deku, that could be his entire career before that happens.

      It isn’t easy changing what people consider as brands. And right now, heroes is a brand almost akin to police.

      Can you imagine a different name for police other than police? Or considering them as “guards” or “protectors”? It isn’t going to be an easy thing to change.

      *so says the digital media student, borrowing from what he’s learnt about branding*

      • August 6, 2017 at 12:59 amStilts

        Coming up with a new brand to replace an old one isn’t the hardest thing ever, but it is tricky. This is better explained as a cultural phenomenon rather than a brand, though. Your point about calling police something other than police is more on point. Changing a bedrock word in the language is a mite difficult. In that, it’s hardly ever done.

        It might be worth attempting though, because it may not matter if everyone gets on board. If the authorities stop calling them heroes, and all the heroes stop calling themselves heroes, and others keep calling them heroes, that’d be seen as a failing of society, but one that the powers that be are trying to correct.

        Think of it like a politician who denounces violence after a violent attack, versus one who does not. (Assume it’s one without jurisdiction over the area where this attack happened.) Just denouncing something doesn’t do anything, but at least you’re saying the right words and are on the right “side”. Doing nothing, though, is suggestive.

        Really it’s a small issue, and it’s only in the context of the coming storm that I propose this. And it’s only our vantage point in the story that allows me to see the coming storm. The powers that be, aside from Gran Torino and All Might, probably don’t see it coming at all, so they don’t realize they need to act.

      • August 6, 2017 at 1:19 amWorldwidedepp

        Well, around the World the Police are called Police.. nearly now on most Police officer around the world are the name “Police” in English attached…also, mostly they wear blue dark uniforms.. not every country of course

        also, you could give them the name “Public Security Officers”, but “police” is faster and easier

    • August 6, 2017 at 2:38 pmThe Walker

      I think the issue Stain has is deeper than just switching around “Hero” to “Super”. Stain did some heinous, self-righteous stuff, but Jerk-ass has a point. I disagree with him targeting Tensei (Iida’s brother) because ostensibly, he appeared to be doing right for right’s sake while collecting a paycheck. But there are people who appear to be doing the hero bit just to cash in on royalties. Mt. Lady hasn’t demonstrated much outside of being indolent and a bit manipulative, and Endeavor has a whole host of issues revolving around wanting to be better than All Might. They do good things because of their jobs as heroes, but so far in the anime, their drive doesn’t appear to be for the betterment of their communities like Manual. I think if people are passionate about making a positive difference by helping people with their quirks, their isn’t a problem. If people wanna use their quirks to get paid, I have no problem. They have a skill set and have the right to monetize it. I just think those calling themselves “Heroes” Need to have a bit more to them. Like Shinso (the kid who hypnotizes people when they respond to him) and others have said: the current system is far from perfect. It seems to prioritize recommendations and destructive ability before anything else. Also, I’m willing to trust Bones on this anime only episode. They were upfront in saying what it was, they’ve done right by me as a fan of the manga, and that anime only scene of Endeavor fighting gave me a grudging respect for him. He may be a scumbag, but the man knows his business. Plus (ultra!), I’ve seen this done with One Piece when they animated the characters’s trials during the time skip, and that was done pretty well. If One Piece can do it with an anime that us fans can only call passable as of late at best, then I know Bones can do a solid episode no problem.

      • August 6, 2017 at 3:19 pmStilts

        You’re probably right. I guess it’s best to think of Stain as a serial cop killer, who’s going after cops because they are doing it for the paycheck and the pension rather’n because of justice. That person would be a monster who’s demanding the impossible, because we NEED workman (and workwomen) who are going to uphold the laws of society for a paycheck, because selflessness is too unreliable. Stain is doing the same.

  • August 5, 2017 at 10:54 pmNex

    This really is where things are gonna start heating up, can’t wait for the inevitable season 3. The next mini-arc has a lot to look forward to too, though.

    In the meantime, I’m actually pretty hopeful for next week’s episode. Even if it’s anime-original, it’s still expanding on existing material instead of introducing a whole new scenario out of nowhere.

    • August 6, 2017 at 1:03 amStilts

      That is true. I’m much more okay with a one-episode diversion rather than a multi-episode filler arc. Though, Horikoshi-sensei didn’t flesh this stuff out for a reason, so I remain a bit apprehensive.

      • August 6, 2017 at 1:34 amNex

        Yeah, fair point. Though, personally I don’t mind a little expansion once in a while. Horikoshi tends to move things along basically as fast as possible, supposedly thanks to having two previous manga cancelled.

        Guess we can only hope the episode is good! A lot of the tournament fights in the sports festival were expanded on or only shown in the anime too, and that turned out alright, so I’m not too worried.

      • August 6, 2017 at 2:50 amStilts

        To be fair, moving things along as fast as possible is a really good idea. Some of the anime I most remember—ones like Mirai Nikki and this one—were constantly surprising me because they never lasted on their laurels. That pacing is a huge advantage.

      • August 6, 2017 at 5:37 amHanabira.Kage

        It should be fine. The whole Endeavour fight scene last episode was completely anime-original, and most of the fights in the tournament arc (the ones featuring the less-important characters) were too. Even the All Might vs Noumu fight was expanded upon a little compared to the manga, and that was done pretty well too. I think this anime is in good hands, and I doubt Horikoshi-sensei has left the script for the next episode entirely up to the studio’s writers either.

  • August 5, 2017 at 11:13 pmGlutton

    http://randomc.net/image/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia%20-%2031%20-%20Large%2019.jpg
    Oh, Todoroki! That’s why you’re my favourite.

    And All Might’s ring tone was pretty awesome and hilarious.

  • August 5, 2017 at 11:17 pmzztop

    Designs for the anime original eps.
    http://www.moetron.com/post/163747092483/boku-no-hero-academia-s2-tv-anime-original

    I’m guessing Tsuyu’s apprenticing under them.

  • August 6, 2017 at 1:15 amWorldwidedepp

    The Anime here is reaching the point, why i did not liked Tiger and Bunny. Because Tiger and Bunny was more an endless Merchandising thing, with some PR Stunts.. Yeah i know that they where real Heroes, but with this merchandising everywhere they where not real… they feel like fake ones. So i can emphasize with Stain, but i would not see them as Heroes and not want to “purge” the “fake” ones

    And here they are about doing the same mistake.. selling only her good face and name. As if the police officers are running around with merchandising on their uniform, and jump into every camera to praise their products…do you would take these police officers for real? No i do not mean the Tourism officers, they have their own work.

    I hope i could bring in my mind. Are the Heroes working for the many? or just for their own business?

    Also this not telling the truth about capture Slain, as an side effect they also protect this Kids from harm… Imagine, if their names come into public.. then groupies would be the last problem.. no the other villains want to kill or hurt them to gain their own fame…

    Also these symbolic Ants… i trow some names into the fry. Anonymous, and so on.. You have a feeling these symbolic Ants are very real

    • August 6, 2017 at 1:26 amWorldwidedepp

      Also, this PR things, smells a bit like “corruption!”.. So, they real should work on their reputation

      Take your favorite US Hero, and clue some Merchandising things on his cape.. would you like it? the same is here, even if they use the TV for that. The way they receive their Money, i find One Punch men has a good solution to it. better then let them alone… Do these Heroes here have some sort of medical insurance? and so on… You get the Gist? Even Heroes need to eat, drink and an roof over their heads

      You can not expect work of risking their life, if the many handle them like slaves

      • August 6, 2017 at 1:29 amWorldwidedepp

        If you need an Movie comparing, of laziness and just focus on your own good for merchandising…

        Watch Rocky 3

        end of line.. Sorry

  • August 6, 2017 at 1:19 amPurpleBomber

    http://randomc.net/image/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia%20-%2031%20-%20Large%2033.jpg
    Show Spoiler ▼

    • August 6, 2017 at 1:25 amNex

      Are you caught up with the manga?

      Show Spoiler ▼

      • August 6, 2017 at 10:23 amPurpleBomber

        Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 6, 2017 at 1:28 amTFL

    And this Arc marks a massive landmark in HMA, from the butterfly effect of Stain’s defeat and speech to the reveal of All for One.

    As long as next week is the only anime orignal episode, I’ll be ok with it, since it will give focus to some cool characters who could use a bit of love: Tsuyu, Jirou, Kirishima and Uraraka. It will should be a nice breath of fresh air Show Spoiler ▼

    The anime’s pacing has been fantastic thus far, and with the way it’s going I am hoping it will end with a smile Show Spoiler ▼

    • August 6, 2017 at 1:31 amWorldwidedepp

      i just hope and wonder if they do no go there and blow out their Budget with that many new characters to animate and giving them a (short) background

  • August 6, 2017 at 2:26 ambelatkuro

    http://randomc.net/image/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia/Boku%20no%20Hero%20Academia%20-%2031%20-%20Large%2019.jpg

    Usually it’s Kaji Yuki’s own character who has their hands wrecked but this time it’s the ones around him heh.

  • August 6, 2017 at 3:34 amKurisu Vi Britannia

    Finally! Best Bad Girl appears!

  • August 6, 2017 at 6:39 amstarss

    … the way they portray news channel behavior and viewer response to it hits home WAY too heavily for me to appreciate it.

  • August 6, 2017 at 7:06 amGrahav

    Brexit, Trumpism, Le Pen.

    You could have also said BLM, Antifa, Isis, Communism, SJWism, Globalism, Consumerism.

    But, it is okay, I got your point.

    • August 9, 2017 at 8:32 amZeru

      People unintentionally add personal bias to the mix over those sort of things, but his point was pretty clear as you said.

  • August 6, 2017 at 7:44 amDude

    Sounds like a great villain name. Hand Crusher!

  • August 6, 2017 at 7:59 amReite

    Oh no, the Giggling Crazy Super-Powered Schoolgirl Villain trope. I hate this one. They’re usually too chuldlish, too cartoony, annoying and use the same design.
    Horikoshi, please, don’t let her be another one of them.

    The filler episode, on the other hand, doesn’t worry me at all. The characters themselves are strong enough to carry it, and the studio seems to understand them well.

    I’m really enjoying how modern the story is. I’m sure Stain wouldn’t appreciate being a meme, but it seems to be more effective than murdering heroes.

    • August 6, 2017 at 8:04 amAnon

      Finally someone who hates this trope as much as I do!

      This trope never makes sense to me, and more than anything else it’s just plain annoying. Sadly, I think this new character is here to stay, from seeing all everyone calling her “best girl” all the time.

      It’s also very ironic that Stain wouldn’t even approve of the people following him. In some sense, letting Stain go instead of capturing him would have been better.

    • August 6, 2017 at 11:12 amLittleForest

      As I read the manga, all I can say without spoiling is that this character may be a trope, but so is All Might, Bakugou or Todoroki. But these three are still good cause the author fleshed them correctly, and it’s the same for this character. She isn’t just a trope for the sake of being it, like most of the characters in the story she fit well in it and doesn’t seem forced.

      • August 6, 2017 at 1:00 pmReite

        Thanks for clearing that up (and without spoilers, too)! To be honest, that’s the answer I was hoping to get – Horikoshi is good with his tropes and his characters. Maybe excluding Mineta… But I wouldn’t want another character in Mineta’s “annoying shounen tropes” bag.
        Although it’s weird to see the new girl being called best girl, since the girls we already know are all pretty awesome.

  • August 6, 2017 at 9:59 amMistic

    Heroes without accountability who work outside the system are nothing but vigilantes, and another word for vigilante is criminal. Society has to be flexible, but it cannot surrender the rules by which it organizes itself and the morals by which it lives. Otherwise it truly is all a sham, and the Stains of the world will have exacted a victory.

    Interestingly, the spin-off manga, Boku No Hero Academia Illegals, is focused on the issue of vigilantism and it highlights the pors and cons of such strict rules. “A society in which quirks are universal is really just a society in which quirks must be supressed”, with the approved heroes as the only exception, has two main fault lines.

    On the one hand, it can end up labelling as ‘criminals’ those who just want to use their quirks for a harmless activity or even to do good. Generally, registered heroes tend to turn a blind eye to those as long as they don’t cause much trouble. On the other hand, villains don’t care. For now, there’s been a balance that favours the lawful heroes. But what will happen if suddenly the other side gets a boost in powers, numbers and motivation? The cracks of the current system’s foundation start showing.

    Under that light, the authorities lying to the public to cover up the kids’ vigilantism proves Stain right; it tries to delude society into a false sense of security that will be tested more and more in the upcoming future.

  • August 6, 2017 at 10:41 amBigFire

    n other words, he had to be planning all this before the effects of Brexit, Trumpism, Le Pen, and all the rest became clear to most people.

    So anything you don’t like is Nazi? Glad we got that cleared up.

    • August 6, 2017 at 11:55 amStilts

      Pfft, no. Nazis are nazis. The list of things I don’t like is MUCH longer’n that, most of ‘em just weren’t relevant.

  • August 6, 2017 at 11:10 amGuile

    I am all for more of the ‘take HeroAca to work day’ kids as a cool down.

    I love the supporting cast so much, and I’d love to see more of them.

  • August 6, 2017 at 11:18 amAnon

    I like how people write in this blog. Please, add a newsletter option. Thank you.

  • August 6, 2017 at 11:44 amlunascha

    Now all these villains going to come out which means more battle scenes~ woohoo :3

  • August 6, 2017 at 12:41 pmArchiepiscopus

    “In other words, he had to be planning all this before the effects of Brexit, Trumpism, Le Pen, and all the rest became clear to most people. The idea that he landed upon, though, and which underpins Stain’s power as an enduring villain (even if he had died, or if he never shows up again), is the same. A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, and the same is true of caustic ideologies of violence, hate, and villainy.”

    I don’t know what Stilts is smoking but Stain, being a deranged lunatic who spouses an ideology of murder against a special type of law enforcement, has tons more in common with Black Lives Matter than any right-wing populist candidate.

    • August 6, 2017 at 2:51 pmchaos

      On one hand I dislike the comparison (because BLM isn’t resorting to violence for it’s goals) but it is accurate. BLM exists because Black and Brown people have been failed by the government, law enforcement, and by a deeply entrenched racism (sometimes subconscious) in American culture.

      • August 6, 2017 at 4:25 pmArchiepiscopus

        Sorry to burst your liberal bubble but BLM frequently calls for violence against the police. But it’s not like the mainstream media is gonna let you hear about it. Where do you think the 2016 Dallas shooter came from?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fPGPTl0ipo

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaybrpQ2vxk

      • August 6, 2017 at 5:50 pmchaos

        If you’re going to attribute what some crazy people say to the entire movement, then one can attribute every racist act/speech made by some crazies or the KKK says to the entire Caucasian ethnic group.

        There’s a fundamental lack of empathy that’s not afforded to Black and Brown people. If your friends and relatives were being gunned down by law enforcement, you’d likely have a different perspective. But this nonchalance is to be expected from a culture that’s engaged in slavery and continues to perpetuate institutional bias and racism.

        I’m not a BLM member/supporter and disavow any violent acts towards anyone if you care to know.

      • August 7, 2017 at 5:44 amGrahav

        Except being caucasian is not a movement it is a race. Archiepiscopus criticized the BLM movement not the black race.

        If BLM really cared about black deaths they would adress the monstrous amount of black on black violence that surpasses the amount of blue on black violence by far. They could do an immense good by adressing their own communities.

        But no, blame the pigs. The pigs end getting out of the communities and you end with the predictable results.

      • August 7, 2017 at 7:01 amchaos

        It’s sort of telling that you use the slur pigs. BLM is a movement protesting the treatment by Law Enforcement and the institutional racism propagated by the government (not against individual white people). It would be helpful if you understood that before jumping on the internet to make useless arguments.

        Black on black violence (just like white on white violence) is a result of local stress factors. If you were provided with chronically poor living conditions, education, and poor upward mobility (a result of generations of slavery and institutionalized racism) you might also have a different perspective.

        View points like yours, @Grahav, boil down to lack of empathy and/or ignorance.

    • August 6, 2017 at 8:12 pmRedRocket

      Black Lives Matter refuses to organize as an organization or have a standard viewpoint. And the main stream media covered it fairly well but not in the depth you might have noticed. So there is no consistent Black Lives Matter viewpoint. If things keep going you are going to get gorilla action against the police but that not yet. By the way, police are legitimate targets in an insurgency, so attacks on them are not terrorism, illegal and may be treason, but not terrorism. But I do think those attacking the police if not in uniform should be subject to being shot under the laws of war. If you want to link to the left the Red Terrorist movements of the 70s’ are more in line. The current anarchists are trending more left than right now although they are libertarian in nature if you want to call them left wing extremist I will not object.
      There are right wing extremist movements and left wing extremist movements and I find false anyone who is on the right who denies their evil extremist side and the same for those on the left.

    • August 7, 2017 at 5:55 amGrahav

      “So attacks on cops are not terrorism.”

      How the hell attacking the force that keeps a population safe is not supposed to cause terror among said population? It is both terrorism and treason.

      “The current anarchists are trending more left than right now although they are libertarian in nature”

      Calling for censorship, demanding more state rules over “unacceptable behavior”. No, they are authoritarian in nature and anarchists only in name. They want their rule over the current rule.

      “There are right wing extremist movements and left wing extremist movements and I find false anyone who is on the right who denies their evil extremist side and the same for those on the left.”

      Yeah, KKK has been really active currently. And those christian bombers everyday, uffh.

      There are extremist right wingers, yeah. But just look at the amount of destructive shit caused by the left wing movements and the religion of peace that you can see that both are not the same.

  • August 6, 2017 at 12:58 pmLoliHat

    The area in which society failed to blunt Stain’s legacy is in letting his ideology get out, though perhaps they couldn’t have stopped that even if they had seriously tried, and perhaps they shouldn’t have anyway.

    The thing is, Stain opposed the league o’ villains just as much as he opposed “poseur” Heroes. But he and what he was fighting for has now been conflated with said league. ‘Twould be interesting to see Stain escape and try to rectify this… or perhaps temporarily ally with the few heroes he recognizes as such.

    • August 6, 2017 at 3:15 pmStilts

      That would be interesting, even if I can’t imagine him allying with anyone, and would be slightly disappointed if he did. Not kill some heroes he deems worthy, or vow to kill them later (as he did with the Nomus)? Sure. Him escaping, though. Hmmm. That could be fun indeed.

      • August 6, 2017 at 4:33 pmMistic

        That would be interesting, even if I can’t imagine him allying with anyone, and would be slightly disappointed if he did.

        Then you better avoid the Illegals prequel. Without giving spoilers, Stain appears there under a previous alias, and does ally himself with another person, although the alliance is considered by both parties temporary and likely to end badly once their common goal is taken care of.

  • August 6, 2017 at 8:54 pmRedRocket

    A mentioned in the source but not covered in depth subject is the type of filler that I love. Especially when the original author is involved.Thus the primary problem of filler is avoided. The primary problem with filler is that it normally can have no effect on canon and often the original author is not involved. Although I have seen the original author make filler canon and affect the main story line in Fairy Tale. I love how they keep adding details left out in a good way to deal with the problem of having to make the story match a set number of episodes. I greatly prefer this expansion to fit the format approach to the edit stuff out approach in most cases.

  • August 7, 2017 at 10:09 amKiritsugu

    I think you (Stilts) may be reading too much on the meanings of Stain’s ideologies spreading like wildfire. Even though Trumpism, Brexit and Le Pen were all built upon a throne of ideologies that quickly spread, their ideologies were/are mainly built upon lies and deviations of truth and common sense.
    IMO, Stain is not someone who bends the truth. He is an anti sell-out-heroe (for the lack of a better description), who points the finger at the cracks on the damn. The first to tell that maybe the heroics society is turning into a travesty of itself.
    What makes Stain so appreciated is the notion that most of the heroes have lost their way. They are not in it for the greater good, but for petty reasons like fame, money and such (the hero lady loves to do commercials more than ever, Endeavour has the idea that being number one is what’s most important, Iida was lost in an idea of revenge, ignoring a wounded victim). Upon hearing his words, some started to realise that the mass media hero, in it for selfish reasons, is spreading. They also realise that such a thing may be seen as a cancer that might eventually crush what being a “true” hero stands for.
    BnH’s creator may have taken his inspiration from things like the rising number of reality shows and commercial music that can in many ways overflow the market and shadow true artistry.
    Well, it’s just an opinion. However, to me, it makes more sense than a prediction of populism. Stain does not say things to grant support, he simply conveyed his beliefs, pointing at the rotting forest behind the tree of “Plus Ultra” fantasy.
    One can argue of course that he is over reacting, that he is a sadist, a psychopath and a murderous purist – which he is – but despite that, there is truth in his words. Perhaps he is only focusing on the bad, but there are also some who are only focusing on the good; I guess it balances out xD

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