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「救世の祈り」 (Guze no Inori)
“Prayer of Salvation”

Now that, was a fantastic episode of Apocrypha.

General Impressions

God damn, I don’t think I’ve ever felt that hyped after any episode of Apocrypha. With the story chugging along to the next big climax and characters getting an opportunity to show us that they’ve grown since this whole damn thing started, I don’t even know what I should talk about first.

If I had to make a snap decision though, there’s no way I couldn’t talk about this new alliance between Sieg, the Black Faction, Ruler, and Shishigou. Seeing how the previous format of Team Red versus Team Black has went out the window, it was nice to see the participants of this Greater Holy Grail War manage to get along and pool their resources together. But honestly, what probably felt the best, was that everyone that partook in this week’s amazing fight probably had little to no attachment to the grail itself. Instead using their shared displeasure of Shirou to fuel their actions, it was this great situation where everyone couldn’t care less about what happened in the past (because it was related to their Masters fighting a separate war) and managed to become one hell of a team. It’s hard to really put into words, but seeing Sieg, Mordred, Jeanne, Chiron, and Astolfo all fight together was truly a sight to behold.

Moving on, boy did Astolfo get some great moments this week. Showing off his charming side while expressing how much he cares about Sieg to truly demonstrating the true worth of an idiot who couldn’t care less that they’re facing the Golem of Creation straight in the face — I’ve come to see Astolfo as something truly more than a cute and endearing trap. That and I think that scene where he had to gently coerce his Hippogriff into obeying was so adorable I almost died from the cuteness overload.

Flipping back to some more serious talk, let me end this post with some short rambling of the future. As someone who has no idea what’s coming (except for what I’ve seen in the comments that I’ve had to spoiler tag), I can at this point honestly say it was worth watching the first cour. With the story evolving and the conflict changing, it really feels like we’re about to dive into the meat of things. Sieg is no longer a useless homunculus, all of my favorite characters are now working together, and Mordred gets an opportunity to be more than this angsty girl who can use her sword better than a Berserker. All things that I would have never saw coming even a few episodes ago.

To everyone who’s made it this far — thanks for keeping up with the posts! I hope the story keeps up what it’s doing now and I hope you’ll join me for the ride :).

Spoiler Policy: Please enclose major spoilers with spoiler tags. If there’s something that needs to be tagged, shoot me a reply at @rctakaii on twitter. Thanks everyone!<3

October 10, 2017 at 1:26 am
  • October 10, 2017 at 2:12 amVelvet Scarlantina

    Astolfo – Seig – Jeanne… Best FMF grouping!

  • October 10, 2017 at 2:32 amHalfDemonInuyasha


    Man, Jeanne moves quickly, doesn’t she? lol

    No screenshots of Sieg and BEST GIRL on the roof? For shame! XD


    “Won’t one of your Noble Phantasms work?”

    “Nope! Sorry!”



    And who doesn’t love Mordred’s face here? Could she be…jelly? XD

    • October 10, 2017 at 10:08 amL002

      I did find it funny that astolfo’s Noble Phantasms, specifically the bird, is being patted like that.

      But seriously, that bird couldn’t harm the golem? I would have wondered if Rider had Bellerophon, Medusa’s Golden Reins, to power up his big hippogriff. It would have been able to use a powerful tackle attack.

      • October 10, 2017 at 11:08 amTakaii

        I’m not a Fate expert here, but if I were to take a stab at it, I think it’s something related to how Astolfo was summoned + doesn’t have the highest stats (except for being a lovable dummy) to begin with.

        That said, I’ve been wondering if her Master change to Sieg makes any difference. I’m assuming he’d have more mana/prana to draw from (seeing how Sieg is a walking mana battery) in the worst case.

        Poor Hippogriph, haha.

      • October 10, 2017 at 11:35 amBob

        The Hippogriff could probably hurt the golem, but it can’t vaporize it like a beamsword could. Also the Hippogriff was still injured and tired out from getting shot down by Semiramis, which is why it wasn’t precisely enthusiastic about helping out Astolfo this episode.

      • October 10, 2017 at 12:14 pmMoekou

        well at least Astolfo is honest, she told sieg that he is pretty weak

      • October 10, 2017 at 11:49 pmBango

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:54 pmJaffaOrange

        Is it just me or is astolfo the most useless servant there is? He did less than spartacus, less than jack and even less than Shakespeare. All he is good for is comical relieve and I am sure he has the worst stats of all of them aswell

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:00 pmTwilightmaster

        He’s versatile, but not directly strong. Although due to one of his skills he is stronger physically than he looks, but he’s still not going to fight knight classes up close. He’s got a lot of NPs and potential abilities.

        He’s the kind of guy useful for adventures, as he pulls a new magical item out his ass each step of the way. Not useful for direct battles to the death as much.

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:23 pmKruszer

        Here’s my tier from what I know of everything in materials.
        Very High:
        Astolfo (lots of NPs somewhat makes up for bad abilities)
        *stronger when certain conditions are met

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:27 pmYttrbio

        Sparty has the power of not dying but he’s not that good at killing only has so long before he allu ackbars

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:34 pmkillmyself

        To be fair, he has to contend with fighting a long ranged opponent and people with plot armor. He’s actually extremely difficult to fight and would kill most opponents if he could get up close to them, and then on top of that he’s got the suicide attack which is extremely deadly. He’s got more than enough justification to move up to a High tier IMO.

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:38 pmjl07045

        his biggest problem seemed to me that he’s a berserker and thus doesn’t think clearly about what he’s doing. being almost unkillable could be a huge advantage, if he didn’t just wildly flail around

      • October 12, 2017 at 1:27 amTris8

        go die in your own dilapidated boat dreaming of glories long past that you will never ever be able to reach out and grasp again you utter has been

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:06 amTakaii

      Mordred’s face in that shot is priceless.

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:31 pmswienke

        That’s such an impure face. Just think what Jesus would say if he saw that.

    • October 11, 2017 at 12:04 amMerida

      And who doesn’t love Mordred’s face here? Could she be…jelly?

      Mordre is jealous, she doesn’t want to split the dragon boy with anyone.

    • October 11, 2017 at 4:45 pmnightjuan

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:17 pmChiibi

        That night they had sex without a condom.

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:23 pmKnoepfchen

        It is an issue that affects us all, irrespective of our gender.

    • October 12, 2017 at 4:53 pmdan7el

      Jeanne wants to rape the poor innocent boy.

  • October 10, 2017 at 5:33 amsouma

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:08 amTakaii


      • October 11, 2017 at 4:49 pmMegiddo

        Reminder that unless you have a thick dragon dick you cannot satisfy Jeanne.

    • October 10, 2017 at 6:45 pmSkullface

      Poor Astolfo, The slut of orleans is trying to steal your husbando.

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:38 pmJedi Master

        Because her love for Sieg is pure.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:19 pmdamien007

        Do pure people like Astolfo even exist anymore?

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:55 pmleatherhead333

      Fuck off, Astolfo and Sieg had a good thing going on, and now Jeanne is showing up out of nowhere and trying to break the two apart. That’s called homewrecking.

  • October 10, 2017 at 8:10 amGhost10516

    Sieg is slowly building his harem. 1 homunculus girl + Jeanne + Astolfo + chances of Fiore and Mordred being added, Caules also seems to have a a crush on Sieg after Sieg saved his life.

    • October 10, 2017 at 10:01 amL002

      Well, obviously, I am sure people are starting to like Mordred for her help in getting sieg and astolfo together. I still remember how people, like mira-pyon and Atavistic in episode 10, mentioned they dislike Mordred. Wonder how their opinions changed.

      As mentioned last time, I really feel sorry for Mr. Mashin, the author of the manga “Fate/school life.” He was probably expecting that Celenike would reform and Astolfo would give more attention to his Master; this could have happen if maybe Aphrodite did the same thing to Celenike like she did to Medea. It would have been interesting if Celenike could have experimented to see if she can be pregnant with Astolfo’s child; not sure if it is possible for a Master and Servant to procreate.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:09 amTakaii

      I think Caules is more in shock/awe that Sieg is a homunculus that’s doing all these crazy/amazing things.

  • October 10, 2017 at 9:39 amUrahara

    This show is very bad ( this is coming from a BIG fan of Fate/Zero ), so bad that the main ( perhaps only ) discussion is between a few kids about who is the best girl
    Pathetic , seeing the Fate series take a nose dive like this is painful , this one makes Fate/UBW look like anime of the year in comparison

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:14 amTakaii

      I think if you really want to enjoy Apocrypha, you have to adjust your expectations accordingly.

      This isn’t ufotable and this isn’t the same type of story that Fate/Zero or Fate Stay/Night UBW had. This is A-1 with a story that’s supposed to be a bit darker (and a bit crazier(?)) and after making it through the first cour, I’m starting to appreciate it.

      They also haven’t blown out my ears until recently, but it wasn’t as bad as before so I consider it all a win.

    • October 10, 2017 at 10:07 pmparallel

      I think the obvious issue is this is what I more or less consider a ‘soulless’ adaptation. There are a lot of criticisms for the original written work to begin with, but it seems they not only ignored those flaws in the anime adaptation but also piled them on. Apocrypha was never the type of story that was fit for an anime adaptation as it stood, but it had potential if care was actually put into the production and any changes they might make. That love… just isn’t here. It just seems like a cash grab trying to make easy money on the current Fate fad. Some quick $$$ and it also helps promo FGO. If they’d put a little more love into it I feel like I could have looked past the story flaws.

      I’m not knocking anyone for liking it and there are definitely things to like in the anime — but it certainly doesn’t have much going for it for a long time fan of the Fate line of stories outside of seeing some of your favorites animated.

    • October 11, 2017 at 6:46 pmGon Gon

      FGO is actually garbage and the cancer killing Type-Moon and soon the visual novel industry.

      • November 5, 2017 at 8:44 amSeorori

        Did you read the F/GO story-lines? The seven Singularities? The Epic of Remnant Saga?
        Guess not.

  • October 10, 2017 at 10:20 amL002

    Poor Roche, to be “digested” like that; next time the kid should summon Leonardo da Vinci as a Servant, I am sure the compatibility would be perfect. I am frankly surprised that Gordes managed to live, I guess a magus, that makes homunculus, isn’t that compatible with a Servant who makes golems. It’s practically almost the same since Caster’s Noble Phantasm involves “making a human.”

    I am at least curious what that glowing EGG, near Caster’s feat, is. It was NEVER explained by the end of this episode.

    On the side note, Caster’s Golem is capable of “eating” a lot, would have wanted to see what happens if a supersized Spartacus was eaten.

    But seriously, that Golem was so SHORT-LIVED!!!! It seems to be a shame that we didn’t get to see how strong the Golem would have been, once it reaches full power.

    I am shocked that Ruler’s B rank Strength is that powerful.

    Anyway, Mordred should have bargained like this.
    Mordred – “Ruler give me 2 command seals.”
    Ruler – “That’s too much!!”
    Mordred- “Mmmm, you are being crushed to death, are you sure? I can wait all day. Ah, no wait, make it three seals, you got like a massive truckload, don’t be stingy.”

    Last side notes.
    I still don’t get why Caster have his golem attack the black team. It wasn’t needed since Caster wanted to bring Eden to the world. Not to mention it was too reckless, the Golem should have reached FULL POWER before it attacked.

    Where does Chiron get his arrows? It seems like he has an endless supply.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:17 amTakaii

      I to wonder what the egg was about. If I were to guess though, maybe he pulled something from Roche and put it into there? It was glowing green before the Golem stepped on it.In terms of what happened physically to the damn thing, I think the Golem just absorbed it after walking on it.

      If you think about it, the Golem is only invincible if its making contact with the “Garden of Eden” (at least to my understanding). I guess it technically didn’t matter if the Golem was fully powered if they could just launch it into the sky again. (DON’T QUOTE ME ON THIS, I’m hoping someone more knowledgeable with chime in if I’m wrong)

      • October 10, 2017 at 12:48 pmyoukai

        I think the egg was supposed to be the core for the golem. Caster probably told his master to bring him the egg to awaken the golem. Obviously, Roche was much more suited to be the core than that egg, it basically was just a bait. I can’t find another reason on why he would bring it to Caster otherwise.

      • October 10, 2017 at 7:13 pmL002

        Thank you sir, that explains it. So that “egg” was a dummy when the real “core” was his master. that is so dark.

        on the side note, I have to give Servants credit for their durability. In Caster’s case, he can still talk a bit after getting an arrow stuck to his head. Was shocked that the dude had actual eyes under that mask, considering how I don’t think that mask is capable of allowing a wearer to see.

      • October 11, 2017 at 12:50 amVaisaga

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:02 pmmaxwell3094

        Archer fires an arrow at the traitor before the golem.
        Caster thinks that was illogical.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:06 pmKen Hayashi

        Adam didn’t immediately betray Avicebron

        PROPAGANDAAAAAA!!!! Was not the first man the first criminal on Earth? Given everything, wanting for nothing only to betray their creator anyway? This lumbering Jewish puppet is but a mockery of the very concept of Eden! That paradise can’t fix what is born torn!

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:08 pmKateonfire

        Caster was a fucking autist.
        Also I think what he was referring to was Archer’s anger, not the fact that he thought a traitor deserves to die.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:17 pmShellBullet

        Bitch, that’s reason enough. Now if it had been ordained by the Church, that would have been all right.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:37 pmEmbraceMe

        trusting the Jews
        Kid was asking for it

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:18 amTakaii

      As for Chiron — he can hide the fact he’s a Centaur. Who knows what else he’s hiding 8)

    • October 11, 2017 at 5:17 pmKirkdawg

      Why Avicebron even bothered to attack the Black Faction if he already got what he wanted? He could just gtfo to somewhere and start spreading heaven or whatever.

      Also, why he even bothered to attack without the rest of the Reds?

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:24 pmVeers

        Because he knew they’d oppose him. Also, because they were in his way.

      • October 11, 2017 at 5:36 pmNick Hobbs

        Red tries to stay away from Black now that they have the grail and need time to make a wish. Aviceborn couldn’t have an escape plan when Ruler knows where he is.

    • October 11, 2017 at 6:55 pmWooga

      Is he inserting that stick in her ass? Is this a homage to Naruto?

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:59 pmninjapet

        Yes he is

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:12 amTreeborn

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:19 amTakaii

      Doubtful. Looks like she might have eyes for Shishigou though :3

    • October 10, 2017 at 5:27 pmReal Xero

      Anyone the MC touches will become a part of his harem. What is this? Kamachi’s work like the To Aru series & Heavy Object?

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:36 amAnimefreak

    Why do those two have more chemistry than Sieg and Jeanne?

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:40 amParse Error

      Because everyone has more chemistry with Sieg than Jeanne.

      Even Gordes.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:56 amsphyre052

      walks by and beheads the crazy fujo abusing sieg’s gay boyfriend
      “psh, she was just in the way of me and where Mastah parked the car.”

      Mordred is a good acquisition for the Sieg’s harem and she understands the hearts of the homunculi.

      • October 10, 2017 at 5:17 pmChagen46

        She also said in this episode she didn’t liked that shitty yandere Master.

    • October 10, 2017 at 12:06 pmookamigirl

      Mordred probably fell in love with Sieg, because of the whole homoculus status they both have. Sieg also has a strong and thick dragon dick and Mordred loves them.

  • October 10, 2017 at 11:49 amWhiteHairGirls

    Time for more best girl
    This adaptation taught me that Astolfo is actually the perfect take on the girlfriend template.

    • October 10, 2017 at 11:52 pmHaruhiToy

      why is the main heroine of this a boy

    • October 11, 2017 at 5:45 pmIndeterminateForm

      Don’t forget delicious ears and the best fashion sense

    • October 11, 2017 at 7:46 pmdoubleO7

      would u get drunk *HIC* wth Astolfo?

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:55 pmCrowLia

        I wouldn’t touch Jeanne Alter ever if my life depended on it.

    • October 11, 2017 at 8:05 pmFenixFiesta

      You are pathetic. You’re basically just waiting for her to fall for you out of pity rather than your supreme dominance over her.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:10 pmtraveling

        Dominating a woman through emotions is superior to simply abusing her.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:16 pmFenixFiesta

        not making her love you while you violate her every night by giving her head pats, rubbing her head, kissing her, and massaging her bright red spanked ass.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:21 pmtraveling

        You can do all these things without the raping part bro.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:23 pmFenixFiesta

        Afraid I’m not that vanilla, beta.

  • October 10, 2017 at 7:40 pmChibiKangaroo

    • October 11, 2017 at 4:14 pmdarkhunter

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:12 pmEtrien

        - staked
        - burned
        - witch

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:28 pmRGaspar

        She was made a saint years after Sieg has inserted his strong and thick dragon dick inside Jeanne’s vagina without a condom until he ejaculated and she says it is okay.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:00 pmAylinn

        Jeanne D’Arc was a toned girl with short black hair who hated promiscuity/immorality.
        Japan depicts her as Stephanie Brown.

      • October 11, 2017 at 8:04 pmVaisaga

        Steph was never THIS slutty.

    • October 11, 2017 at 5:30 pmBrent Allison

      Jeanne is really thirsty for that dragon dick huh?

      • October 11, 2017 at 6:34 pmJaffaOrange

        You mean the guy that married a prostitute?

    • October 11, 2017 at 6:58 pmCam0

      Being a saint is being a rolemodel for Catholicism, only God is perfect. She could have sexual desires, as long as she confesses and tries to not fall into temptation from time to time.

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:02 pmBeized

        Oh, I imagine she’ll be confessing and calling to God all night if you do something to her involving rope.

    • October 11, 2017 at 7:11 pmOrtensia1980

      It’s hard to dislike a cute girl who barehandedly has hot sex with a dragon boy every day that it became her bitch for all eternity.

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:19 pmHarleyquin

        Face it, you’re just scared shitless or you wanna het smacked around, you filthy, spineless M.

    • October 11, 2017 at 8:09 pmPolycell

      A slut broke his soul. Not even joking.

    • October 15, 2017 at 11:10 pmdragon695

  • October 11, 2017 at 1:00 amikillchicken

    If only the Einzberns weren’t retards that spent more time on cheating than actually fighting.
    Could have won by the third grail war.

  • October 11, 2017 at 12:28 pmURGH

    This whole thing is laughably bad even by already floor-level low fate standard. Asspulls and pathetic self-referencing everywhere, completely unneeded “hero”, oy vey look at our token faggot white piggu goyim and would you like some sakuga with that.

    • October 11, 2017 at 1:05 pmWorldwidedepp

      No salty enough your tears, if you do not like it, then while hurting yourself in watching? So your tears are not Salty enough, you should cry at last an class full of Water

  • October 11, 2017 at 3:51 pmantasad

    So, what was Chiron’s NP? His sniping vision or just one of the shots he fired?

    • October 11, 2017 at 3:57 pmDessa

      He has homing arrows apparently

    • October 11, 2017 at 10:57 pmHalfDemonInuyasha

      He never used his Noble Phantasm. Fiore ordered him to use it, but only after careful consideration on whether it would be able to take down the golem. After a quick scan of the golem and locating the core, he concluded that his Noble Phantom would NOT be strong enough to take it down and so lead to him concocting that plan involving everyone else instead.

  • October 11, 2017 at 3:56 pmBrook-Gomamon

    We need 3 servants to attack it at the same time
    Just lets the other 2 use their NP and does nothing himself

    what a sly horse

    • October 11, 2017 at 3:58 pmJuno016

      But it did need 3 servants. Rider made it so Adam wasn’t connected to the Ground with his Trap NP, turning his legs to spirit so the moment before it regenerated (which, by being on the earth would be immortal), Sieg and Mordred could blast it.

    • October 11, 2017 at 4:04 pmjfrog

      Not entirely sure what was up with that. If he used his NP and it was just not made obvious that he was using it or if he’s going against his master’s orders and holding it back to backstab Mordred next episode.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:07 pmBrook-Gomamon

        She asked him if his noble phantasm would work and he said no.
        His noble phantasm is pretty shit and relies almost entirely on surprising an enemy with it. Once it’s revealed, it’s basically useless since everyone can defend against it. It can also only be used at night, and only once per night.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:26 pmjfrog

        I thought she told him to fire it off the moment it has any chance of killing the golem (in conjunction with the other servants), but maybe I am misremembering it.

    • October 11, 2017 at 4:23 pmlianncoop

      why didn’t he wait for the golem to be completed before attacking the enemy home base?

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:26 pmWrangler

        Because that would make it invincible, effectively winning him the war and we cant have that since he isnt the main character.
        C’mon anon, think.

      • October 11, 2017 at 4:28 pmlianncoop


  • October 11, 2017 at 4:10 pmjfrog

    I thought she told him to fire it off the moment it has any chance of killing the golem (in conjunction with the other servants), but maybe I am misremembering it.

  • October 11, 2017 at 4:32 pmShio

    Sieg is cute today too
    Astolfo is cute today too
    Fiore is cute today too
    where is Jack

    My response to every episode now.

    • October 11, 2017 at 4:39 pmWrangler

      Jack is next to get downed.

  • October 11, 2017 at 6:50 pmHeinzendegger

    • October 11, 2017 at 7:06 pmCecilthedarkknight_234

      Your history teacher is a filthy Britbong spreading lies and slander about the perfection that is Aslolfo.


    • October 11, 2017 at 7:13 pmMiranox

      Yeah? Did he know her personally?

    • October 11, 2017 at 7:21 pmHarleyquin

      She was short, a bit stocky (i.e. farmgirl build), had large breasts, and short dark hair.

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:26 pmDessa

        well they got 1 out of 3

      • October 11, 2017 at 7:42 pmHarleyquin

        The most important part. All is forgiven.