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  1. It was interesting to see Kubo draw in a more comedic style for this chapter. Considering that we were getting nothing but small dialogue battle scenes for a while now, this chapter was quite refreshing

    Sadman123
  2. Decent enough chapter.
    I’m really hoping Unohana will show some fighting potential but more likley than not her only purpose will be to stand by and heal any half dead characters, or at least Kubo continues in his usual fashion…
    Also a welcome change to see Ichigo not suddenly gain full control over this new power level and have to work to gain it. That at least gives other characters like Kenpachi a chance to show what they can do.

    blinx01
  3. well since unohana’s ‘gonna have to do it’ like Omni-san said, then hopefully she would be of some battle use, like I also thought.

    besides everything up there, I’m fine, well not with that damn Kurotsuchi… *Mayuri-dislike face*

    kaineng
  4. I hope we ger to see Nel again soon. Yammy is probably dumb enough to try using a zero obscura on her.

    Do anyone else have a feeling that Aizen has done someting to Orihime that would prevent her from returning to the human world?

    hurin
  5. I would say that Kubo should keep Unohana’s power level a secret throughout the series. If almost everyone is afraid of her, that just makes her more mysterious, and we will be more curious of her strength. If Kubo reveals her power at some point in the series, she’ll lose her mysterious aura, and fans will either be disappointed, or lose interest in Unohana’s character. So I say, keep her power level a secret, or at least don’t reveal her zanpakuto’s bankai.

    Karis
  6. I seriously hope Kenpachi catches a SERIOUS beating (to near death would be preferable). I’m sick and tired of this aura of utter invincibility he’s been wrapped in ever since Ichigo kicked the crap out of him.

    King of Heroes
  7. i seriously dun get bleach anymore. have a think about it, ichigo with hallow transfomation juz barely beat grimjow, and grimjow was..no.6/5 i forgot. before that, ichigo WITHOUT the hallow transformation won kenpachi and byakuya. its really, i mean.REALLY funny, to see how kenpachi and byakuya said it as if, they can own the shit outa yammy, which will probably happen anyway( which byakuya has said ichigo’s help wasnt needed, when ichigo owned his ass last time), putting all tat aside, kenpachi also killed the mantis, which is 1/2 number above grimjow.(which seems to me, to be impossible, cause ichigo barely won grimjow with hallow form, and kenpachi juz beat tat mantis without any shit up his sleeve) bleach’s manga is going downhill, i dunno wat i shud expect anymore…

    Sam
  8. oh yeh,i forgot to mention 2 more things, wizards are supposed to be stronger than captains, but why in the world did stark own the shit outa those 2 wizards, and when shunsui had his bankai out, stark was killed instantly o.O this is really funny…

    Sam
  9. Sam ~> Visoreds (Yes, VISOREDS) haven’t shown all what they got, you know. If Sunsui hadn’t showed up, Rose and Love could’ve use their Bankais, and then they could have big chances of defeating Starrk.

    For this chapter, i was frustrated because Kubo decided to go back to FKT whithout showing us what happened to Grimmjow, Nel and the other surviving Arrancars. Even the two corpses in Szayel’s Labo didn’t come to light, so for this i was quite disappointed.

    But still, very nice chapter with something other than random fight, and it’s cool to see the 4 captains again. Can’t wait for next week’s chap.

    Magnus
  10. Why Shunsui out performed 2 Vizards? It was explained before that within even at captain level there is a large variation of power.

    Let use some non official numbers as an example
    Normal Shinigami -> 1- 30
    Vice Captain ->45-100
    Captain Power level -> 100 to 500 (Yama)
    Vizard -> Original Captain level +100

    Lets say Tousen at Captain level was 150
    Aizen changed him into a Vizard, so he would be 250

    Lets say Kenpachi (with eyepatch) at Captain level was 300
    So Tousen Vizard would still lose to Kenpachi without Vizard

    Now Shunsui is about 3rd-4th in senority (Yama, Uno, him or Ukitake) and he is known to be attack based (based on him and Ukitake being a team and Ukitake being a defensive reflector), so based on the example scale above, he would likely be closer to 500

    Also lots of blade/gun/axe/whatever techiniques, on the spot tactical planning ability (Toshiro), cool headedness (Byakuya), etc adds to the power on the scale.

    For Shunsui’s case he had an additional element that gave him a boost in that particular combat, the element of surprise

    Zaku Fan
  11. @magnus
    sorry it was typo, i was gonna type VIZARDS, and to be honest, i still dun really noe how all vizards work, cause ichigo is by far the only 1 using bankai in hallow form, shinji and the gang havent being shown using any sorta bankai, from memory

    @zaku fan
    by the numbers tat u have shown me.. i guess i get wat ur trying to point out, but, theres no really any proof of yama being the strongest, maybe hes juz the commander cause of some other reason. (personal opinion) regarding gin and tousen, those 2 have their reasons to be strong, because they are with aizen afterall, who noes wat they have eaten to make themself stronger…i juz personally cant get over with, how the arrancar’s have all gone down so easily…

    Sam
  12. I really liked this chapter, i just wish kubo would straighten things out with his characters, particularly kenpachi. He was on par with ichigo in soul society, then stronger than ichigo against #5 and now hes stronger than ichigo’s new hollow form against #0….

    And we’ve already seen unohana’s bankai. Its that big flying blob that heals things when there in its mouth. AND that was not shunsei’s bankai, that was still only his shikai, it was just in a better mood.

    chris
  13. Count me among the ones confused with the apparent power rankings of the various characters – especially since Kenpachi got pWned for so long by Nnoitra, even in unreleased form. Now he turns around and takes a haymaker from the Cero Espada without anything but a wisecrack.

    Also Byakuya irritated me by telling Ichigo he could never help a captain of the Gotei 13 in a fight (after both captains got their ass kicked by Ichigo about four power-ups ago), tho I suppose it could just be Kuchiki-taichou’s arrogance. Makes me hope Ichigo beats his ass again in the anime arc, even if it’s not really happening.

    Count me among the folks wanting to see what Unohana can really do and why she inspires such terror among everyone. Maybe the Japanese are just scared of doctors? The guy from FMA:B is pretty creepy … (not Marco, the other one)

    I’m kinda hoping that Shunsui was actually using Bankai and just never said it on-camera (and maybe can restrain the usual lightning flashes and epic music that usually follows). After Starrk’s speech about wanting to see Bankais it was really anticlimactic that he died without ever facing one.

    Guardian
  14. I’m also confused about the power levels. I allow that Kubo may have screwed up some of them a bit, Ichigo’s in particular, but I have a few theories about why they may NOT be completely screwed up. Like Zaku fan said, I believe we’re wrong to think the vizards are automatically stronger than all the current captains–current being a significant term. I’m not sure seniority in a captain automatically equals greater power than a more recent captain–Ichigo, though not formally a captain, is the best example of a relatively “new” person with power surpassing (in theory) some of the older shinigami. Therefore, Shinji and crew outside of vizard form may or may not be stronger than the current captains–we can’t know for sure, as Kubo refuses to show clear-cut examples of power levels.

    But regarding Ichigo–have you noticed that he seems to have lost his great speed and power ever since the arrancar arc started? This was also when his hollowification began. The only time his hollow has explicitly increased his strength is against Byakuya the time they fought. Every other time since then, he’s SEEMED to be stronger, but I think in reality he’s been relying so fully on his hollow that he’s forgotten how to tap into his original power. After all, Ichigo could not be as weak as he appears. Part of it is his inexperience–he doesn’t know how to sense reiatsu properly, can’t control any of his powers fully, can’t use kidou, etc. Like Ulquiorra said, Ichigo is only fearsome because of his growth rate, not his current abilities. The few times Ichigo has tapped into his strength, like in the final blow in the Kenpachi-Ichigo fight, he’s shown himself to be amazingly strong–with just shikai, like the other captains are. Even the vizards have so far only used shikais, excepting Kensei, and Kensei is strong enough to stop Wonderweiss with one hand. I think Ichigo is just messed up. If he knew how to act like a captain, he would be at captain-level with just his shikai. His bankai would increase his power further, and his most recent hollowfication would send him through the roof, possibly beyond Yama. I believe that in the end, Ichigo, without a mask, will be stronger than Yama.

    Regarding the espadas’ anticlimactic defeat–who said they vasto lordes? Aizen said to Gin that once he finds the vasto lordes, the espada will be complete, implying there currently aren’t any. After all, Hitsugaya said ten of them could destroy Soul Society, but the ten we’ve seen so far definitely couldn’t have done that, and it’s conceivable Yama could have destroyed them all single-handedly.

    Calliope
  15. @ Calliope–

    Totally agree with you on Ichigo`s power being messed up. Though, at the moment, we don`t really have a clear cut idea on how the hallow transformation during the Ulquiorra changed anything. I mean, he seemed to be more calm when he was saving Rukia and leading Yammy away from Renji and Chad. He used his speed to dodge and lead him away, so I think it`s not to say that he`s not using his own power. I think it`s more of a mental thing with him than anything.

    And when we think about it, I also think that Ichigo`s bankai might have more to it. From how the captains are with theirs, there might be more to the bankai itself that Ichigo hasn`t tapped into yet or Zangetsu isn`t telling him. Somehow, I think Hallow Ichigo will show up in the coming battles, to aid Ichigo into stabilizing his hallow powers. Only a theory, but I think that if the two worked together, ALONG with Ichigo`s immense reiatsu and Zangetsu, he could seriously kick some ass. Just an idea, but that seems to me where the story`s heading, in my opinion.

    queenie
  16. There definelty going to be another Ichigo|Zaraki fight. Now it’s aizen going to be zaraki. At first ichigo won’t be able to cut him. That we’ll get the standart crap about that he wants to win and stuff. Than he will get inner voices from zangetsu of Hollow Ichihgo – or both. Than he’s going to be able to cut him. And eventually defeat Aizen.
    So i think we have to be prepared for power level mess-up.

    Azrael
  17. This was done over the top poorly. Instead of doing the Karakura Town fights in parallel with the Hueco Mundo Arc, he should have finished the Hueco Mundo Arc proper beforehand. I get the impression the writer is in so deep into a mess of fights and characters the plot has been falling apart, horribly. He has also had to finish off quickly characters he previously had portrayed as being really strong. The way Aizen finished off the Espada is clearly a case of him being tired of his own story. The Vizards have been getting offed for much the same reason.

    After all that plot development around the Vizards in the Pendulum Arc, you would expect them to grow in importance. Instead they are being offed and the master character reset switch is being pressed. Here is how I would have done it:
    – finish the Hueco Mundo Arc, Aizen escapes misteriously with a couple of top Espada, with Ichiro and team close behind
    – travel from Seireitei to Karakura town gets blocked due to some Aizen scheme or whatever
    – Aizen and his cohorts fight Ichigo and team + visoreds (since they were on Karakura town to begin with)

    All those extra captains are distraction IMO. The visoreds had enough numbers to fill the gap already.

    TheDude

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