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「水に書いた約束」 (Mizu ni kai ta Yakusoku )
“A Promise Written in Water”

Imagine that you woke up one day and realized you were living a lie — a farce pushed upon you under the guise of keeping you safe. What would you do? Could you tolerate it? Would you risk your life to fight it, knowing that you’d likely die? Given the choice between living a lie and the potential alternative of not living at all, what would you choose? Would you really be living if you were forced to abide by standards that conflict with your very being? More importantly, what happens if despite all the cloak and daggers, the system does actually keep you safer than you’d otherwise be?

As our main characters begin to realize that the Sibyl System is anything but what it seems to be, it’s these exact questions that they must now ponder. And as far as expressions go, they’re now stuck between a rock and a hard place — an unenviable position that’s not without a fair share of irony. Because in the end, the Public Safety Bureau’s main goals are to enforce the law, deliver justice, and uphold order — all goals inherently given positive associations. At the same time though, it’s precisely because of those goals that the members of the Bureau end up being exposed to the negative aspects inherent in society — and from there, the realization about the Sibyl System. In ways, it can be said that it was a byproduct of them having performed their investigative tasks too well — to the point where they’ve pretty much put themselves into this situation, as their initial capture of Makishima ironically led to this sequence of events. And when you consider the fact that they’ll actually end up destroying the societal order they’ve been fighting so hard for (and represent as well) if they topple the Sibyl System… it’s truly an unenviable scenario to be in — though one quite fitting of the rather brutal nature of a series made by UroButcher.

On a related note, this then brings up another well used expression in the classic “ignorance is a bliss.” Invariably, you’ll always find differing views regarding whether this is true or not, but I can’t help but think of how potentially true this would be in this case. I mean, if you look at the situation one way, if our cast never found out that the Sibyl System was hiding its fair share of secrets… they’d be in a much better position for the most part. Of course, there’s no real point to discuss this now given the revelations and developments we’ve already been shown, but I really just can’t help but be reminded of the expression — especially when you consider how Makishima could pretty much be said to be a representation of the side that believes ignorance is anything but a bliss.

In any case though, the end result — as of this moment anyway — is that Kougami ends up deciding that he must go outside the law in order to deal with Makishima and the scenario they’ve been put in. And to say the least, it’s a decision that has immensely far-reaching consequences. To but it bluntly, Kougami’s pretty much sacrificing himself to relieve the others of the burden, as if he succeeds in killing Makishima and ends up getting executed as a result, it resolves the entire dilemma for the most part. For one, Makishima’s death would stop him from wrecking any more havoc on society. Kougami’s own death would then free Ginoza and the rest of the Enforcers/Akane from debating the aforementioned scenario as well, as it is likely one of them would have to be the one that shoots him. This would serve the purpose of allowing them to return to their daily lives as members of the Public Safety Bureau, while also serving as a statement by him that having the system — even with its shady elements — would be preferable to the alternative. This would then make it so the other members could at least accept continuing their job and living in a society run by Sibyl, even though they would likely still harbor discontent at the system and their own share of regrets. In this way, this is perhaps one of the most ideal of possible endings at this point — one where Kougami not only gets to go out while staying true to his own morals, but also while giving a new lease on life for the other members.

Sadly though, the one thing you can’t expect in general is an ideal scenario from an UroGen series. It would be admittedly nice if things end up like the above, but gosh darn, it doesn’t have the feeling that it’ll end up like that at all… as it seems likely that the Sibyl System will have its own say of things before it’s all said and done. There’s definitely a potential scenario here where no one lives, and if this set-up episode has given off any vibes, it’s that the ultimate in grimdark endings awaits us in the remaining four episodes. And with that, another week of PSYCHO-PASS draws to a close… and well, hopefully future weeks will at least be free of notices from the director apologizing for the quality of the animation. The ending will undoubtedly be quite intense, and there’s just not enough words in the dictionary to express how sad it would be if what would have been a great experience ends up being ruined by terrible animation.

Author’s Note:

  • Just filling in for Mochi this week. She should be returning for next week’s episode.
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    February 21, 2013 at 9:21 pm
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    • February 21, 2013 at 9:38 pmNadester

      Psycho-Pass is definitely one of the best shows I’ve seen in a while. It genuinely allows one to really think about or question the society we live in and the so called “Justice” that governs us. A truly remarkable show that I look forward to each week as it slowly comes to a close.

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:38 amDa5id

        Except that the questions it asks are relatively simple ones.

        Q: Hey, what if we monitored people mentally so that we could stop crime before it happened? made society a less stressful place by locking up all the really stressed ones, and let the police carry around giant laser cannons everywhere?”

        A: Well, crime would still happen, but be forced to increase in lethalness. The slightly stressed citizens would get more stressed out of fear for being locked up for being stressed and the stress-free citizens wouldn’t be able to recognize anything happening around them as bad, making them easy targets.

        Q: Hey, what if we made society a less stressful place by locking up all the really stressed ones?

        A: The slightly stressed citizens would get more stressed out of fear for being locked up for being stressed and the stress-free citizens wouldn’t be able to recognize anything happening around them as bad, making them easy targets for criminals.

        Q: Hey, what if we picked people’s jobs for them by looking at what they’re suited for?

        A: Well, there’s always a pretty big chance of the person knowing what they are better suited for than a machine.

        Q: Hey, what if we let the police carry around giant laser cannons everywhere and vaporize criminals?

        A: …it’d probably freak a bunch of people out. Oh wait, but then you can lock them up because they’ll get so stressed they’ll become latent criminals.

        • February 22, 2013 at 12:45 amDa5id

          Ooooooh how I wish this site had an edit button…

        • February 22, 2013 at 1:37 amAngelus

          Q: Hey, what if this site had an edit button?

          A: Well, typos would still happen, and if people noticed them then they could decrease their stress by correcting them. But some people might get more stressed because they might worry about typos that they hadn’t noticed – now that there was an edit button, everyone else would think they really didn’t know how to spell something.

        • February 22, 2013 at 2:42 amGoodStuffs

          LOL! nice one

          it can be simplified further
          Q: crazy? or sane?
          A: just shoot.

        • February 22, 2013 at 3:20 amZen

          @Da5id

          You hit the mark. To the philosophically uninitiated, it is unsurprising that these questions would appear to be cutting edge and novel- scandalous even, to some of the more sheltered. If your only point of reference for philosophical commentary in fiction happens to be anime and Hollywood…well, let’s just say that they’ve been rather bankrupt philosophically as of late. But most anyone with a decent amount of philosophical education would realize that similar themes have been debated ad nauseum in tales and treatises over the ages, even since/before the time of the Greeks. Read some Plato and you’ll realize immediately how elementary this stuff is…

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          @Zephyr

          This would serve the purpose of allowing them to return to their daily lives as members of the Public Safety Bureau, while also serving as a statement by him that having the system — even with its shady elements — would be preferable to the alternative. This would then make it so the other members could at least accept continuing their job and living in a society run by Sibyl, even though they would likely still harbor discontent at the system and their own share of regrets…In this way, this is perhaps one of the most ideal of possible endings at this point — one where Kougami not only gets to go out while staying true to his own morals, but also while giving a new lease on life for the other members.

          So I take it that you think a world run by Sibyl is the lesser of two evils? Interesting. I always thought most people would be of the opinion that humans were the best arbiters of their own morality, over some machine that is completely devoid of emotion- let alone one built from the minds of perfectly pragmatic sociopaths. “Because morality and emotions are not mutually exclusive, they are intimately intertwined.”- so they would say, but judgments made based on emotions do not rely wholly on logic and often produce inequitable, and therefore unjust outcomes; justice is blind- and “blindness” is pure pragmatism for justice’s sake, devoid of illogical emotional biases, which is what Sibyl presumably gives us. To questions such as these, there are no definitive answers…

          In any case, I don’t think an “everyone dies” ending would necessarily be all grimdark, especially if Sibyl is destroyed- then the ol’ butcher might just say that humanity is “free to choose its own path,” free of Sibyl, and the influence of Makishima and the Enforcers…or something of the like…

        • February 22, 2013 at 4:24 amDa5id

          Curse you, Angelus, and your turn-arounds.

        • February 22, 2013 at 8:54 amTheNova

          @Zen

          You need to understand that it is all relative. This is an anime. Comparing it to Plato’s work would be comparing oranges with apples. You can’t deny that this show stands out among other anime, TV show or Hollywood movies.

        • February 22, 2013 at 12:10 pmDa5id

          No, it really doesn’t.

          Intense, drab cyberpunk atmospheres, philosophical anecdotes sprinkled into the plot, and machines that are made to control human will for them are nothing new to anime. That’s not to say it’s bad they’re reusing these things as long as they have a decent new spin on them.

          My point is that none of these questions are that deep and PP is REALLY hamming it up with them. The fact that it’s anime does not change either of these things.

        • February 22, 2013 at 5:33 pmZen

          TheNova

          You need to understand that it is all relative. This is an anime. Comparing it to Plato’s work would be comparing oranges with apples. You can’t deny that this show stands out among other anime, TV show or Hollywood movies.

          Comparing the works? Wha? This is not a comparison of works; it is a thematic comparison- a comparison of ideas. The medium in which the idea is being portrayed is irrelevant; all that is being examined is the originality of the central themes, and the competency of their portrayal. And the themes behind Psycho-Pass become horribly mundane when they are observed outside of the recently philosphically brain-dead backdrop of anime/Hollywood, against the universal superset containing all narratives.

          And even if we were to restrict our thematic comparison to the realm of anime alone, you’d still be gravely mistaken. As Da5id said, (And he is brilliantly on the mark yet again, if I may add)…

          Intense, drab cyberpunk atmospheres, philosophical anecdotes sprinkled into the plot, and machines that are made to control human will for them are nothing new to anime. That’s not to say it’s bad they’re reusing these things as long as they have a decent new spin on them.

          My point is that none of these questions are that deep and PP is REALLY hamming it up with them. The fact that it’s anime does not change either of these things.

          There may not be many sci-fi series that have an emphasis on social commentary on air currently, but let us not forget the classics that were released during golden age of sci-fi in anime (Around the late 1970s- early 1990s, as far as I can tell, don’t take my word for it.) where the masters of sci-fi in anime like Leiji Matsumoto were more actively producing TV series. And if you’re at all familiar with the masterpieces from those times, Psycho-Pass would almost certainly appear to be as “shallow, unoriginal and ham-fisted” in comparison, even within the medium of anime alone, as Da5id has pointed out.

          But the vast majority of anime fans these days are too young to have seen or heard of these classics- so it comes as no surprise to me that they would laud the first show which comes along and appears to do something “new” as “amazing” or “cutting edge” or “unique in the scene.” It is entirely understandable…

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:16 pmshadowalker

          @RC writers
          I apologize in advance if it’s inappropriate to post this here, but reading Zen’s post reminded me of something I have been thinking for a while – you guys really should do a separate post on anime generations or anime viewership generations, which ever works.I believe it’s a great way to address how a viewer’s perspective of a show changes depending on their experience of anime(not to mean one would be better than the other).

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:41 pmDa5id

          Compliments appreciated, Zen. :)

          And yes, if this is someone’s introduction to these sorts of themes, then I can get how it can seem like something revolutionary. I just hope that after this show, they’ll watch or read some others that handle it better.

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:44 pmZephyr

          @shadowalker

          Hmm, that’s probably something you might want to ask Stilts about.

        • February 24, 2013 at 9:45 pmjoedoe234

          Da5id, Zen, this is an anime, repeat after me A-N-I-M-E. Not a philosophy thesis. Go stroke each other’s philosophical e-phalluses elsewhere.

        • February 26, 2013 at 5:19 amjunglepenguin

          @joedoe234
          And why should two people who enjoy talking about an anime series in their own way need to leave? Does it upset you? Is finding reason to speak on philosophy in an anime series forbidden on this site?

        • February 26, 2013 at 7:22 pmjoedoe234

          I find condescend and heavy-handed pretentiousness to be most upsetting. Perhaps my wording was a bit over-simplified so allow me to elaborate. It’s quite clear that Mr.David and his pal Zen are like-minded philosophers of a higher intellectual order than we mere mortals but we’re talking about a light form of entertainment (Anime).

          Surely such discussions belong on a philosophy forum or some similar academic platform. I didn’t really mean that they should go away. Hell, I don’t have the right to tell them where they should go stroke their egos. However, it’s a bit annoying so I think I’ll take my leave and hope we don’t meet in the comment section of some other anime on some other site.

        • February 26, 2013 at 7:35 pmshadowalker

          @joedoe234

          And what exactly do you think your doing?Just like how you enjoy anime for elements other than it’s philosophical values, some people enjoy the philosophical sides presented in the anime and discuss about it – it’s only a difference between how you enjoy anime, if you feel it’s condescending that’s pretty much your problem.

      • February 22, 2013 at 7:10 amZephyr

        @Zen

        Well, I meant in the context that if Kougami ends up going out the way it seems like he will, it could be insinuated that Kougami believes that having the system is preferable to not having it eh, because while he’s still pursuing his own brand of justice, the end result would be that he’s pretty much sacrificing himself to indirectly preserve the status quo with the system. So from that context, he’ll leave that kind of message to the members that are left, and subsequently make it easier for the survivors to tolerate continuing to live with a Sibyl run society.

        As for personally, I’m quite torn between the two sides. I believe in the notion that the upholding of societal order is a very important (and necessary) aspect in life, but I’d hesitate to say its so important that I’d be willing to pretty much live a false life in order to obtain it. If given a scenario where I’d had to choose between the system we had now and the Sibyl though, I’d probably stick with the one we have now.

        Admittedly though, if I was in another scenario where you’d tell me I’d never find out the negative aspects of the Sibyl system though… I just might reconsider, because from that context, I can’t deny what would otherwise seem to be a complete success from Sibyl in terms of fighting crime and giving me a job, ya know? Goes back to the whole discussion I had in post about ignorance and how it’d affect your perspective eh.

        But yeah tl;dr, given the situation where I know the pros/cons of Sibyl, I’d say it has too many faults to make it worth it. I do find it an interesting concept though, because if you just tweak the system a few ways, it really could be an ideal system that prevents pretty much all crime, upholds order stronger than anything else, while also ensuring everyone gets the most out of their life.

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:02 pmZen

          But yeah tl;dr, given the situation where I know the pros/cons of Sibyl, I’d say it has too many faults to make it worth it. I do find it an interesting concept though, because if you just tweak the system a few ways, it really could be an ideal system that prevents pretty much all crime, upholds order stronger than anything else, while also ensuring everyone gets the most out of their life.

          Lol, that’s more like what I expected- for a second there I thought we had a blogger who was a Makishima-esque perfect pragmatist (For justice, not chaos), not that there’s anything wrong with it, of course…XP

          And yeah, ignorance really does alter your perspective- because you cannot evaluate something based on information that you do not possess. It’s just like the folks who are calling this show “cutting edge” and what not- they are ignorant of the classics- so they can only evaluate Psycho-Pass in the context of recent works- a philosophically bankrupt backdrop that makes Psycho-Pass look decidedly brilliant when measured against it…

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:48 pmZephyr

          Well, I mean to be fair at the very least P-P is rather good. It’s not quite the most original or something “godly” in terms of cutting edge-ness, but it does take a lot of references from some classics that make it worth watching nonetheless. It’s just a nice combination of a series that is both decent/good as a stand alone, along with a homage to the past (GITS, Blade Runner).

        • February 22, 2013 at 7:03 pmZen

          Agree with you totally. My point was never to devalue PP and decry it as some kind of travesty to the genre- it is competently produced and quite entertaining, even if it doesn’t measure up to the classics. But as decent as it may be, it is not the “truly remarkable (quoting OP)” masterpiece that many seem to think it is- and this misconception, born of classical ignorance, is what I am trying to debunk…

        • February 23, 2013 at 12:53 amDa5id

          Right, no one is trying to say PP doesn’t stand on its own as a good series. Just that…it’s nothing new.

        • February 26, 2013 at 6:01 amjunglepenguin

          @Da5id
          At this point in time, I think it’s practically impossible to find something that’s new. At the core of pretty much every new series are a bunch of themes and concepts that have been reused over and over. I think we lose sight of what’s important when we try so desperately to look for originality in any medium of entertainment (and reading your posts, I’m sure you understand that). Surely, many of us will eventually come to realize that there are older titles that have touched on similar subjects before, and what’s more, in greater detail or with greater relevance to our reality.

          But for now, to see that PP is moving an audience in a way that recent seasons have done all but, it seems like something that at least I can be satisfied with. Whether PP is something original or just a clever rehashing of something done before is next to irrelevant. Finding out that a newer generation of anime enthusiasts aren’t repulsed by the lack of moe or fanservice, and that viewers are genuinely interested in expanding on and delving into concepts shown in PP, I find such things much more encouraging. No doubt, the team behind the production of PP share the same sentiments, since they literally declared that they’d be going against recent trends in the anime industry with this series.

          Uhhh…

          tl;dr – Who cares if it’s new or not? What matters is that it works, even without boobs or moe, and people are actually being given the opportunity to think about what they watch.

        • February 26, 2013 at 10:19 amDa5id

          Actually, my original point was how over the top and hammy they handle their themes, unlike other shows who talk about the same stuff but are at least subtle about it. It just seems like they really cut a lot of corners here.

    • February 21, 2013 at 9:44 pmkondee

      Looks like the calm before the storm…I do hope everything would resolve itself nicely but I know things cannot be that clear cut with this series.

      Animation quality of the episode aside,

      Akane proved she came far from the indecisive newbie she once was while deciding to stick to her beliefs. Facing her friend’s death again to get an accurate profile on Makishima, getting that sneak attack on him when he had Kougami pinned down, decisively shooting Kougami with the Paralyzer mode of the Dominator before things got messy…effectively saving him twice.

      You go girl!

      • February 22, 2013 at 3:26 amCybersteel

        Still sad Kagari is no longer there, probably one of the more saner characters. On a side note, how could Kougami turn her down D:

    • February 21, 2013 at 9:49 pmR

      Please tell me I’m not the only one who wants to set all those brains on fire after this episode. I was so angry at using Kagari as an excuse to push Gino and the divisions around in attempt to divert attention away. It only served to make the characters more suspicious of the system, even. It would be really great to see someone go whack-a-mole on all those brains at this point.

      Now that both Division 1 and 2 investigators saw the Chief override a Dominator to put it into Destroy Decomposer mode, I highly doubt the characters won’t put the breadcrumbs together. Akane’s save at the end was brilliant — this girl never fails to impress me. Seems like everything’s going to come together quickly after this episode, and I’m really looking forward to it. Kougami’s departure does seem like a massive death flag, but it might be too obvious… It’d be nice if the system gets abolished, but if it happens, I’m sure there’ll be an Urobuchi twist complete with bloodshed and heartache to make it happen.

      On another note, I’m guessing Yayoi saying she was going to grab a bite to eat was actually code for something else, particularly if Shion got word of Kougami so quickly and unofficially.

    • February 21, 2013 at 9:57 pmHell

      Hope Kougami doesn’t die :(

      • February 23, 2013 at 12:03 pmcdxliv

        I don’t think we need to worry about him. The logical sad conclusion is Akane trading her brain to Sibyl for Kougami’s freedom from judgment. Which would end up being quite sad.

    • February 21, 2013 at 10:01 pmDa5id

      Well, if you’re dead, you’re dead. End of story. If you’re alive, you can find a way to take down the lie, or you can learn to accept the lie as the truth, or you can try to live with the lie and know it’s not the truth.

      See? So many more options when you’re alive.

    • February 21, 2013 at 10:24 pmJack Spicer

      Holy dip in animation quality, Batman!

      • February 21, 2013 at 11:46 pmDeathtogeneric/formulaicshows

        hey, hey: anyone who uses “holy_____, batman!” format gets my thumb up vote.

    • February 21, 2013 at 10:27 pmVii

      I could barely concentrate on what was actually going on in the episode because of the shock I got from the animation. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous dip in quality…

    • February 21, 2013 at 10:55 pmbaseone

      Whomever’s brain’s controlling her is stupid. She/He intentionally showed that he/she can control the dominator right in front of them and still no one noticed.

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:36 amHakumeiJin

        I bet it’s the completely psychotic killer brain(there’s bound to be at least one since that’s what most of us guessed at first would make someone immune to scanning), who normally doesn’t get to just kill people because the decision is collective, that saw what Kouzaburou did and got jealous.

        • February 22, 2013 at 3:20 amCybersteel

          The Sybil System boasts homogeneity but the show shows more than one incidences of fragmentation present in the system itself.

      • February 22, 2013 at 7:15 amZephyr

        I think at this point though, the Sibyl System’s at a point where there’s already no point to conceal the fact that there are shadier things at work here. There wasn’t anything for her to lose in that situation by revealing that ability, because they still don’t theoretically know the whole truth behind Sibyl.

        What it does do however is basically say: “alright, so here, your confirmations are true, so what? Make your choice. You either live with the system or die.”

        • February 23, 2013 at 6:15 amjhpace1

          It’s quite amazing that the Sibyl System allows legalized murder if a person has a Crime Coefficient over a certain number. But now the Chief has shown that she/he can murder anyone, at any time, with the Decomposer mode on a Dominator. The collective brains of the Sibyl System allow this “queen” of the Borg to do such an action. I’m surprised no one has turned a Dominator on the Chief to see what her/his Psycho-Pass is – would it be zero, according to the brains of the system?

    • February 21, 2013 at 11:40 pmEntrav

      Well, at least they apologized for the drop in animation quality.

      We are once again focusing on the societal conundrum that is pivotal in this anime. Not bad for a calm before the storm. I’m heavily anticipating the conclusion.

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:01 amtaiakun

      Regardless of the dip in animation quality, I am liking Akane’s strong rise in character since the start of the second half of the season. For most of the first half, she was just going with the flow, often doubting herself and her abilities. Since then, she had risked her psycho-pass skyrocketing by diving back into her memories, managed to give Makishima a good solid whack on the head, and her quick actions saved Kougami from being the second victim of the Sybil system. I wonder if Akane has suspected that it was the chief behind it and not that the dominator was non-functional. I presume she does as she has been pretty quick and observant for most of this series thus far.

      4 episodes to go! I am hoping that the bad animation from the past 2 episodes are only a temporary thing, and that most of the budget have been placed in giving this series the fitting conclusion it deserves.

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:45 amDigid

      Kougami – the Man in The Iron Mask

      Actually, that does make an interesting topic, especially if you put in the rumor that the man-in-said-mask was the twin brother of Louis XIV, a man said to have been “Praised for his ability to choose and encourage men of talent, the historian Chateaubriand noted that “it is the voice of genius of all kinds which sounds from the tomb of Louis” ”

      Kougami & Makishima – Prisoner & King, played and players, twins of opposite yet equal force.

      Anyhow, views aside, I do believe those brains in the system need to have their fluids checked. After all, overriding a Dominator in front of everyone?
      Yeah, that was a subtle move

      Speaking of moves – way to go Akane ^^
      So that’s two debts of life-saving Kougami owes her. One more and he’ll have to take her out to a steak dinner XD

      On Kougami, his leaving and going vigilante / maverick / lone wolf didn’t come as a surprise at all. At least he didn’t just leave without offering Akane some kind of explanation. She deserved it.

      Ugh, I’m going to miss this show once it ends, but the run to the end is definitely looking exciting. Heh, especially if you take the Intro’s scene of the stand-off between Akane / Makishima / Kougami

      It’s like that song – “Kougami’s to the left of me, Akane’s to my right – here I am, plotting in the middle of you..” XD

      • February 22, 2013 at 2:19 amGoodStuffs

        thank papa ginoooza for that the guy would have just taken off without a letter! no steak dinner for youuuu!

      • February 22, 2013 at 3:21 amCybersteel

        Man + Mask + Betrayed by the System

        Dishonored?

    • February 22, 2013 at 2:50 amRockmanshii

      Where was the note about apologizing for the animation? In the credits?

      • February 22, 2013 at 3:01 amEdios

        in director’s twitter

        • February 22, 2013 at 3:14 amRockmanshii

          I see, thanks.

    • February 22, 2013 at 3:43 amzztop

      I can almost imagine the final SIBYL confrontation:

      ‘I’m going to kick your asses!’

      SIBYL: ‘Wishful thinking!We have long since evolved beyond the need for asses!’

    • February 22, 2013 at 3:53 amzztop

      Does anyone here think this show could make an excellent transition to Hollywood live-action in the right hands?

      If so,I can totally see Helen Mirren(The Queen,RED) doing the role of mysterious and sinister Bureau Chief Kensington( aka Chief Kasei as an Englishwoman).

      • February 22, 2013 at 7:17 amZephyr

        Hmm. I see what you mean. In the end though, I mean, P-P takes a lot of queues from Western movies (Blade Runner, Minority Report) and other Western influences, so it would figure that P-P itself would thus be quite fitting in a similar medium.

        • February 22, 2013 at 6:08 pmFlanders

          @Zephyr
          There is one episode in Psycho Pass that parallels an episode of fringe, about the students being turned into works of art (also a serial killer involved). When I was doing a marathon of sorts when I watched that episode of Fringe (season one), I asked myself where did I see this before, then I realized it was PP.

          On the episode itself, Akane was simply awesome. She has grown to evolve the right balance of logic and emotion to be able to make quick decisions that have saved Kougami a number of times. Makes me more convinced that she’ll be the balancer or the equilibrium component in the Sybil system one way or the other.

        • February 23, 2013 at 2:44 amzztop

          True. JJ Abrams would be an ideal director for the Psycho-Pass movie, if he directs it the same way as Alias and Mission Impossible 3.

    • February 22, 2013 at 4:53 amRed 4

      I would choose to live a lie, because we make our own truths.

      The only way this works is because nothing is true, and everything is permitted.

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:07 pmCybersteel

        Assasin’s Creed lolz

    • February 22, 2013 at 4:57 amilion4o

      Animation was a bit funny this episode, but who cares! The girls were amazing!
      Not only did Akane save Shinya and Gino, because I’m sure he wouldn’t have fired the Dominator, but she did it using the same crappy excuse the chief tried to pull.
      Also I think I’ve just seen the best farewell in anime history! No godbyes, no nothing, just a “Maybe I should have done you while I had the chance..” XD I love you Shion!! You can have me any day of the week!

      • February 22, 2013 at 5:26 amMormegil

        Kougami really missed out on sleeping with Shion. On that note, she needs more screentime!

      • February 22, 2013 at 12:07 pmJae

        I thought she was a lesbian.

        I couldn’t stop noticing the egregious cuts and shit quality from this episode…really ruined the flow…

        Also shocked at the sentimental side Kougami portrayed towards the end.

    • February 22, 2013 at 5:21 amVivace

      Akane saved Kougami from being urobutchered

      • February 22, 2013 at 7:20 amZephyr

        Considering that Kagari pretty much got butchered to the point where no body was recovered, no one saw him die, no one knows he’s dead, and others are crapping on his memory by saying he ran away… theoretically, that’s probably the least butchered way Kougami could’ve gone out. Lol.

        You can argue now that this gives Gen four episodes to really butcher Kougami at this point, as I can see him potentially making it so that Kougami dies for nothing and just gets cut down right before he’s able to shoot Makishima or something… now THAT would be urobutchered. -_-

      • February 22, 2013 at 7:43 am7godeohs

        It’s not over yet, plenty of opportunities for horrible injustices against Kougami to take place.

        Kougami: “I used to be an Enforcer, then I took a Dominator to the knee.” :SPLAT

    • February 22, 2013 at 8:49 amMagoiichi

      If I know UroGen, it won’t just be Kougami that dies, Gino might just be the only survivor, or Karanomori.

      Akane gives off that “I’m gonna die last” vibe, the old man is gonna die inbetween everyone else.

      Or the twist will be Makishima will survive, destroy Sibyl and then get killed by some random criminal.

      • February 22, 2013 at 8:57 pmzztop

        Does Gen Urobuchi always write depressing stories like this:

        ‘And then everyone died, went mad, or became super depressed. Everyone lived miserably ever after, and there was no peace and goodwill on Earth.’

        Did something happen to him when he was younger for him to think like this now?

        • February 22, 2013 at 9:16 pmScruffy

          No. Madoka was a surprisingly bitter sweet ending. Not a happy end but certainly not a bad end. It’s probably the nicest end though.

        • February 22, 2013 at 10:03 pmzztop

          But does Mr. Urobuchi mostly write depressing endings where everyone dies? Sorry, I’m not really familiar with his work.

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:48 pmMakane

      I think the show slipped some in this episode. That scene where that cyborg turned the dominator into lethal eliminator was too obvious and quite frankly retarded.

    • February 22, 2013 at 12:49 pmNierTevra

      “…the law can’t protect people, in that case my only option is to step outside the law…”

      in other words, kougami became batman…shiiieeeeeeeet…

      ps. great ep, great feel, great emotional impact, and made me wonder if kougamiXakane might actually blossom into something by the end of this series…

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:01 pmpokpok

      Only one word to describe this ep- “Baka”

      • February 23, 2013 at 3:58 pmpokpok

        sure sure you all really don’t watch this episode untill the end to get why “BAka” describ this ep

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:19 pmewok40k

      Series is turning definitely into a setting for final confrontation between four distinct powers at play: Inspectors, Sybil system, Kougami and Makishima himself, divided pretty much via D&D alignement: Inspectors are lawful good (paladins), Sybil is lawful evil(tyrant), Kougami is chaotic good (rebel) and Makishima is chaotic evil (destroyer). How it will be resolved and who walks away alive is definitely not sure at this point, but given the situation, I wouldn’t put it past the idea of Inspectors hatching something along the lines of Operation Valkyrie, the 1944 failed plan to kill Hitler and depose Nazis from power in Germany. Oh, wait that one hasn’t ended very good…
      Anyway, Akane with her quick thinking and use of Dominator really was star this episode. Kougami was saved by her again…

    • February 22, 2013 at 1:52 pmlivevoid

      This episode once again made me wonder what the significance of Yayoi is. I mean this episode did a good job of dipping into the personalities and struggles that each member of Division 1 had and Kagari’s “disappearance is still a huge focus. Yayoi’s only line in this episode was “Im going to get some food” before leaving. Aside from episode 12 Yayoi has not had any significant air time and has not made any contributions to her team. Even Shion does a lot and she hasn’t been in any episode for more than 5 minutes. I say Yayoi is the next MWPSB member to die because her death flag in plain insignificance.

      • February 22, 2013 at 5:47 pmunknown2

        Or, she wont die because she didnt get enough screen time to deserve death.
        The ones that die are usually the ones people like more. I do like Yayoi, infact I like most of the characters, however I doubt alot people felt “attaced” as they were with Kagari. Yes, due to lack of screentime.

        • February 23, 2013 at 1:06 pmlivevoid

          Possibly but I feel like Yayoi is close enough to the main cast that you can raise a death flag. And this is Urobochi…

      • February 23, 2013 at 2:14 pmmaria

        This may be true but at what time she died? Kagari died découvran the true form of Sybil … Yayoi will die because of a dominating point on it? On the criminal who kill with a knife? No, I do not see how …

    • February 22, 2013 at 2:15 pmchiaki

      The animation was pretty bad (Masaoka face for example), and yes Yayoi … by moemnt have really seen and as you say the only thing she said is that she will try to eat … Luckily compared Shion and had a lot of screentime.

      Speaking of his sentence Shion “farewell” was pretty funny with Kougami and someone here had said that he thought Shion was a lesbian … honestly imagine that a lesbian may be that this sentence was just to lighten the mood before the start of Kougami. Shion is a character “sexy (appearance and phrases)” after Shion if she said seriously then it is probably Bisexual

    • February 22, 2013 at 3:15 pm5OClockTea

      Ah either destroy their human convictions and live safely under a corrupt governance, or destroy said governance and face the terrible reality afterwards, or compromise in an attempt to reform the system.

      Choices, no doubt, made by many men on the on the precipice of change and revolution. I eagerly awaits what Gen chooses for his characters.

      • February 22, 2013 at 3:38 pmDa5id

        The latter. It’s always the latter.

    • February 22, 2013 at 4:00 pmchiaki

      I wonder what he’s going to reserve Masaoka and yayoi … after the death of Kagari … and leak Kougami …

    • February 22, 2013 at 5:42 pmunknown2

      Ugh, if they had to choose to make an episode drop in quality at least its this one instead of the upcoming climax! However, not only an apology, but the director promised to REDO the episode. We dont know if its gonna be via DVD/BLU releases or not.

      Makishima is an excellent villan since Johan from Naoki Urasawa’s “Monster”.
      At this point I can only see Akane surviving. Kougami almost definitely. Karanomori saying if she should have slept with him “at least once” makes the death flag even more clear. (And shes cheating with Yayoi lol). Even if they manage to kill Makishima, what about the Sybil system? Theres two villans to kill. I can only imagine the end of Psycho-pass as the whole society getting into more chaos…! Cant wait to see what the end may bring us!

      N.B.

      This series could have been better with more episodes. I really wanted to see more indepth stories of the other characters like; how Masaoka dropped from being a detective to a Shikkoukan and how it affected his son Gino to become his present self; how Kagari dropped out of the system at age 5 (I’d like to know how); how Yayoi and Rina’s story ends (thanks for leaving us hanging @ ep 12); theres pretty much ??? regarding Karanomori’s back story; and finally I wanted to know more about the guy (forgot his name) that died that made Kougami drop to a Shikkoukan. OVA perhaps?

      • February 23, 2013 at 9:59 amYerld

        There’s no promise to redo anything. Rather, they’ve promised to revise their work.

        They can revise animation in two ways:
        - finish cuts that were left incomplete by filling in missing drawings
        - make the animation director (or another member of staff) redraw off-model characters without pay

        Reanimating is out of the question because what they spent on production has already been spent. People are paid by the number of drawings they turn in, so if they couldn’t draw enough, there’s money available to finish the rest. Poor illustration calls for an unpaid retake (provided that the studio insists on it and they can convince someone to come in – the threat to one’s future employment is a good motivator), which is essentially a retrace/correction of existing frames.

        As far as a production committee is concerned, the studio got paid for their work and screwed up. And in turn, the studio’s position is that the animator got paid for his/her work and screwed up. Therefore, it’s rare for more money to be allocated.

        That’s why the Girls und Panzer director was brave to delay broadcast (his reputation and on-going success affords some protection). He could’ve rolled out poor episodes and then revised them for Blu-Ray, but that meant the work would never be completed to satisfaction. Better than broadcast doesn’t mean good because there’s only so much they can fix without extra budget.

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    • February 23, 2013 at 10:05 amalily

      I kind of understand Masaoka’s advice to Gino given the circumstances if he really wants to keep his job and not think about other circumstances because he doesn’t want gino to end up like him if he keeps questioning the system…
      On the other hand, I applaud Akane’s quick action. I believe she knows that there is something wrong with the system but she also believes the justice that system upholds. I just had a bad feeling since she caught their chief’s attention, she might probably get involved with Sybil’s inner workings…
      The way I see it if it would probably have a tragic ending the following would happen: Makishima would end up destroying part of the system (specifically the brains behind it), Kougami and Makishima would end up killing each other, Akane would probably be sacrificed to the Sybil as replacement (my friend and I find this funny since its will be like Madoka ending: becoming hope itself)

      • February 23, 2013 at 11:11 amLoliHat

        I could easily see Akane voluntarily giving up her brain and joining the Sybil collective in e the hopes of making it better. She seems like that type of character…

      • February 24, 2013 at 1:41 amSydne

        Not to mention that the ED sounds scarily like Akane speaking about her and kougami… and her image at the end being surrounded by a distorted image of a dominator. It might be hinting something.

    • February 23, 2013 at 11:04 amkishiOu

      Anyone noticed that Kougami had his coat on in 19:29 when the ‘camera’ was facing his back? He did not actually have his coat on when the ‘camera’ was facing him.

    • February 23, 2013 at 6:40 pmMgMaster

      I’m one of the people would consider both Makishima & Kougami ending up dead to and every1 else resuming their lives under Sibyl to be one of the worst endings to be honest..altho’ there could be much worst :D

    • February 24, 2013 at 6:04 amyugiri

      I have a feeling that Masaoka will die saving Gino’s ass and then Gino will realise what a slave to the system he has been the whole time—nothing like the dramatic last words of a father to make son a better guy. Akane will probably live and become the new chief–running the system her own way…probably back to the old days when they had cops and a proper justice system. All the other characters will probably die since I can’t imagine them leading new lives after the Sybil system falls–they’ll most likely be casualties in the final scuffle.

    • February 26, 2013 at 6:18 amjunglepenguin

      “Would you risk your life to fight it, knowing that you’d likely die?”

      If you were living a lie, would that mean that you may or may not actually be “alive”? I think a certain space cowboy has the answer to your question:

      “I’m not going there to die. I’m going there to see if I really am alive.”

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    • March 3, 2013 at 7:43 amfoureyeszerosoul

      A hypothetical question: if we were to point a Dominator to Urobutcher’s head, what would his Psycho-Pass/Criminal Coefficient level be?

    • March 4, 2013 at 12:44 ambrent

      Is Psycho-Pass not being covered by RC anymore? I noticed its not in the list of “CURRENT SERIES” anymore :(

      • March 7, 2013 at 8:14 pmsealouse

        I think that happens automatically when there isn’t a post in the series for a while. What’s with these people? Don’t they realize how good this show is. It should be top priority…