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「永遠の輝き」 (Eien no Kagayaki)
“Eternal Light”
This week’s episode was big moment after big moment — and I was loving every moment of it!
General Impressions
Picking up right where things left off last week, I felt a little letdown after seeing how quickly Siegs and Mordred’s fight came to an end. Seeing how you had two heroic spirits duking it out, I was really hoping for some more actual fighting rather than a giant lightsaber battle. As a small consolation, I’ll admit that watching Mordred beat the crap out of a weakened Sieg was pretty satisfying. Not because of any dislike for any of the characters, but just for the mere fact that Mordred couldn’t care less about her current state and simply wants to destroy Sieg.
That said, it’s not like things weren’t exciting this episode. Following the quick end of Sieg and Mordred’s confrontation, we got to see just how disgusting Spartacus could be. And don’t get me wrong, when I say disgusting I mean it in both the literal (gross) and the descriptive (holy cow what power) sense. Seeing how his Noble Phantasm was an augment to his body rather than some kind of powerful move, it was rather fitting that someone who loved to take damage would take that characteristic and utilize it to its fullest potential. Thinking back to how he took a huge attack (and survived) from Atlanta’s Noble Phantasm, I kind of wished they showed us the entire scene of Spartacus transforming into that giant blob of “rebellion”.
Shifting gears to the story itself, boy has it been a while since we’ve seen the plot move forward. At the heart of it all, all the players are fighting for the Greater Holy Grail and it’s nice to see that we’re almost to the point where the Grail itself will show itself. While I’m a little curious about why it’s so damn big, it’s appearance should mean that the battle is about to reach an apex. However, with everything being a little off in this Greater Holy Grail War, it’s probably not too crazy to assume that something out of the ordinary will probably happen before we get to see the actual grail.
Overall, another pretty good episode that set up a lot of things. With both Team Red and Team Black ready to rip each other’s throats out and Sieg a very safe distance away from everything, I can’t wait to see just what happens next week. If I had to pick one thing that I want to see most though, it’d have to be Vlad getting forced to use his Noble Phantasm. Something tells me it’ll be related to the vampire part of his history and boy do I love it when we get to see Vlad angry. Anyways, I’ll catch you guys next week — see you then!
Please be courteous and add Spoiler Tags to any spoilers. Lots of comments this week — I’ll be more active with monitoring.
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What is transformation process?
Its based on the concept of homonculi acting as conduits. If Illya can act as a conduit for a holy grail due to her heart, then Sieg can act as a conduit for Siegfried by having his literal heart. Because Siegfried is now a heroic spirit, Sieg gets quasi command spells which enforce his will over Siegfried’s manifested form. However, Sieg is just a mass produced homonculi unlike super special Illya; so his projection capacity is limited to a short timer before his body gives out.
This also operates along the same premise of Shirou containing Avalon within him. Just as Shirou can tap into Avalon, Sieg can tap into Siegfried’s noble phantasm. Nobody is really aware of this in the setting because none of the characters are familiar with the specifics of the latest Fuyuki Holy Grail War.
The real question is why do I have to explain this to anybody who claims to have watched the other Fate anime before.
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If there were no time limit for transformation, the result would be very different.
Seigfried since CM3 is called a guy who could probably beat Arthuria.
Even Mordred says she can’t let Seig live to transform a second time, otherwise she won’t stand a chance like this again.
She couldn’t even hurt him without a command seal. Which the anime really didn’t show that well.
Is Seigfried the strongest saber then?
God I hate Arturia.
Doubtful Seigfried is the strongest Saber either though. There’s a lotta hype around Sigurd these days.
Arthur Pendragon is stronger than Arthuria though.
Well even when I prefer Arturia form the original Fate Stay Night I must admit her male counterpart Arthur has a more powerful Noble Phantasm, Excalibur Proto has an Anti-Antiplanet classification, meaning that at full power it can and will destroy thearts that could destroy all the planet!.
Siegfried is the strongest Saber and Jeanne is the weaker Saber.
Yes Siegfried is anti Dragon guess who inherited Daddy’s dragon genes
Absolutely. He’s immortal and Balmung is a better weapon.
First mira-pyon last week, now myself.
I see what you’re doing, but please, continue.
Yes. Siegfried slayed a fucking dragon as a mortal, for fucks sakes. Mordred’s greatest achievement happened after she died. But Sieg was not at full power since he doesn’t have any prior experience fighting or in complete control of his powers.
Yeah, it´s not a full possesion like Shirou Kotomine stated, it´s more like the kind fusion Yuji Sakai and the Snake of the Festival had in Shakugan no Shana, Sieg is the conduit for Siegfried but it´s like Siehgfried is doing all the fighting.
Something to note here: that’s still Seig. It’s Seigfrieds body, but Seig is in control.
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Astolfo remains best girl. She’s optimal girlfriend material. Astolfo screams like a perfect girlfriend about how he doesn’t want to abandon their Sieg boyfriend, even if there’s nothing he can do to help him.
Wasn’t Jeanne protecting Sieg for the same reason, too? Both Astolfo & Jeanne are best waifus protecting their husbando.
Maybe Sieg has a fetish for braids. 😀
Always been a fan of SiegXJeanne, I look foward to those two interact after thif battle is over, after all we have 14 more episodes!.
They’ve completely changed the first Sieg and Jeanne meeting, by replacing it by an an anime original episode (episode 5).After its first meeting, Sieg and Jeanne are going to live together at the old man’s home in the LN, in the anime they decided to keep them separate. All the romance scenes between Sieg and Jeanne of the vol. 2 has been cut from the anime.
They’ve already changed that much?
Wow, kinda lost a bit of fate in this adaption.
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So Lancer of Black’s master is going to use his command spell that might put his Servant in a disadvantage situation. Yeah, what kind of bad things that could happen?
It’s a trump card, I don’t think it really counts as “put him into disadvantage”.
It’s just that Vlad despise that Noble Phantasm
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Just as the light novel’s readers had said, Jeanne d’Arc is all-defense. She’s got next to no attack, she focuses purely on defense, she has EX rank magic resistance because it was summoned in special class “Ruler”, and her only real strength is the ”Command Spells” to control the servants tha she received by being summoned in special class “Ruler”.
Her swordmanship and ability is rather mediocre in servant standart but she has EX magic resistance so even ultra powerful magic barely hurts her.
To put it in game terms: Jeanne makes a great Tank but she’s mostly useless otherwise.
You mean she’s a great semen tank, right?
Ruler is a dumb concept, and Jannu is dumb too.
Not as dumb as Mordred.
Its a fine concept; wars have always had a church member as a neutral party watching over the war, and summoning them directly eliminates the corruption element.
Instead of Kotomine, lets just summon Jeanne el Darko.
^ They help cover things up and shelter masters, what can Jannu do?
Stop rampaging servants, commands other to deal with the threat if something gone terribly wrong.
Well where the fuck were they when an extradimensional monster and The Shadow were loose
what can Jannu do?
Help fuck over the black team because muh dragondick
Jeanne doesn’t deserve to be a ruler after being corrupted by the strong and thick dragon dick. there is only one good ruler, and his name is Holmes.
Not even Shield Bash? or Smash Shield on Ground = Earthquake?…
Nah, only a broken precognition and baptismal sacraments. Apo Jeanne is a flag holder and not really supposed to be a fighter
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virgin waifufags and redditors love Mordred because she’s a waifu shit, but if she was a male that fans will probably find that she is just another dense, generic, stereotypical, screaming, shounen character that want to kill everyone and everything. But she is WAIFU SHIT so it can be forgivable.
Oh bro, there are two standards for the same shit type: one for male characters and another for waifu shit.
I really hate doing this kind of thing
I like her ’cause her history and her partner, they are the characters of this series I empathize with the most.
I also like Jeanne d’Arc and Franky and her partner, sadly he didn’t understood her until her death
The character has had their daddy issues for as long as they’ve been alive anon
which has been what, 5 years?
she’s a semi retarded wierd little cunt with no hope of ever being mentally unfucked
ever.
the only fun to her is laughing at her and the circumstances of her birth.
She was conceived between Artoria and her sister, Morgan le Fay, through unorthodox circumstances. Artoria, normally female, was a pseudo-male at the time due to Merlin’s magecraft, so Morgan enchanted her with a spell to extract sperm from her. Morgan developed it within her own ovary, and made the child into a homunculus clone of Artoria.
That’s so stupefyingly bizarre, that is not even worth laughing at.
people bandwagon the generic shounen edgy delinquent character. They should’ve just watched reruns of the breakfast club when they were young like real typemoon fans.
@Veromaye this was a great comment!
Let’s see:
priginally male
ibn4 Meh idiot dence stupid!
gender bend to female
ibn4 Omg amazing character best waifu!
Doesn’t take much to get an idiot’s brain like yours to tingle slightly.
Veromaye too.
Amazing.
Shit character always be shit.
Mordred can’t even spell Mordred.
Mordred is an idiot and all incarnations of her mother save for Vacation Dad and Not-Yet Dad hate her.
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Nero’s genocidal campaign is downplayed
BUT Christian Priests are either antagonists or outright villains in the Nasuverse (see FZero, FSN, and FAP)
Servants who are loyal to God are either impotent imbeciles (eg Jeanne d’Arc) or homicidal hypocrites (eg Saint Martha
Spartacus is outed to be a violent loon who rebelled against ROMA instead of a heroic warrior
The ROMA wank in this franchise is insane.
Oh my God ssjokg too
My sides are lost forever, they left the Solar System.
Poor Spartacus
Nasu will sometimes paint members of the Church as villains, all that they want is to make humanity stagnated with a crazy wish.
Nasu lost all credibility the day F/GO was conceived
This is the worst mobage ever made. Fucking Korean P2W shit has better free rates than this fucking game
Lancer will always job
Saber will always wreck shit and more than likely be a sameface
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Last man standing is still a way to win regardless. In most survival games if you know you are weak you usually try to tough it out then take the win near the end.
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Use the spoiler tag gdi.
His class won the holy grail regardless if he deserved it or not.
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Where are you guys watching this? I can only find the episodes online on torrents subbed 7-10 days after it airs.
Maybe you should look just above where you type your post:
it good you want to be the wannabee internet police an make sure the “bad people” stay in line asking question they should not but helpful advice goes lot further, here is a quote on “WHY” you cannot watch it yet.
“Aniplex has announced that the TV anime adaptation of Fate/Apocrypha will be presented on Netflix’s streaming service outside Japan starting on November 7th. Co-creator Kinoko Nasu planned and supervised the story of Red and Black factions of masters/servants, which was originally introduced as an eventually cancelled MMO game.
The series is listed for a two-cour, 25 episode run starting this summer.”
it be on netflix nov 7…
UTW’s subs are terrible. Jean called Rider “kanojo” and they translated it as “he.” Their encode generally looks better though.
And they did the right thing. EDreamer also translated it this way because it makes sense.
– Jeannu thinks Rider is a girl
– calls Rider “her”
– in Japanese the same word for “her” is used for girlfriend
– implies she may think some kind of relationship exists between Sieg and Rider
Yet you’re saying it makes more sense to translate it as if Jeannu knew Rider was a man? No way.
@meiam You know that Jeanne thinking Astolfo is a girl is a plot point, right?
Yes! This is an index for tropes about envy and jealousy.
What is the deal with Spartacus anyway? If he could convert damage he took into power, how the hell was he captured so easily by the Black faction? He could’ve shrugged off Vlad’s stakes easily and continued his rampage. I guess he intentionally betrayed Red faction because of his rebellion nature, but, what was even the point and what does he even want?
To be fair, Spartacus is in the Black team. So it’s not like she’s siding with the red or black team specifically. It’s just a typical black on black crime.
Vlad’s fight made no fucking sense.
Starting out materializing the spikes out of the ground makes sense, he’s hitting his target and he doesn’t want to give away his trump that that he doesn’t even need to stab his opponent and can just materialize the stakes mid-stab right out of his opponents body.
And after this reveal of how he could just keep popping spike after spike after spike right on target he… goes back to sticking them out of the ground and flying them through the air and missing?
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I really hope they do some rewriting on the fight with Vamp Vlad, because that shit makes absolutely no sense, and if they are rewriting shit anyway, that should be high priority to fix.
That fight need serious rewriting yeah.
How did the fight against Vamp Vlad turn out in the novel? I heard that Karna leads the charge and spammed mana burst flame on the stakes so that the other servant’s can advance?
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Jannu was a mistake
Jeanne doesn’t consider herself a saint, so it’s possible she either can’t or won’t use sacraments.
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6 Servants that had the Idiot Ball and weren’t fighting at their best for the sake of plot.
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Joan of Arc would be capable of using a baptismal sacrament?
Isn’t she a ruler and supposed to be legit saint with said Sacred powers? I believe Martha or George have some sacred skills that can deal with Darnicula?
The questions I have published above, which some have doubts about.
Here are the answers:
– Isn’t she a ruler
Yes, she gets the ability to see all servants true names and command seals. Thats all it does.
– supposed to be legit saint
Yes
– said Sacred powers
Which ones, all Jeanne could do was supposedly hear the voice of god, and heres the description of the saint skill.
Saint (聖人, Seijin?) indicates being acknowledged as a saint. When summoned as a Servant, the ability of saint is selected one among “raising the effectiveness of sacraments”, “automatic HP recovery”, “1 Rank-Up to Charisma” and “production of a holy shroud is possible”.
Siegfried is stronger than Mordred. All she’s got is a laser sword and a helmet that hides her identity. Siegfried’s got a laser sword and dragon skin, which is actually useful. Plus he’s a dragon slayer which makes him effective against Mordred who inherited the dragon factor from Arthuria. He’d win 10/10. Sieg only lost here because there was a slight hesitation on his part. This is his first real fight and all. Otherwise, he got EVERYTHING Siegfried had. Memories, experiences, combat abilities.
As for Jeanne, she’s a perfect Ruler and she’s not just a tank. She’s got one other NP and its got some real bite.
@Takaii That’s the Greater Grail. The grail we’ve seen in FZ and S/SN UBW is the lesser grail.
Literally bullshit, this is merely a headcanon/fanwank based on waifufag said and can easily be refuted by Type-Moon wikia (http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Ruler_(Fate/Apocrypha). Jeanne is possessing a human body, an unprecedented summoning with a very weak link to the current world, so she has a number of irregularities that do not plague regular Servants. She has the physical abilities of a Servant, but since she is linked to a physical human body through the realm of the unconscious, she has to carry on her life as a human . She cannot turn into spiritual form, and she must deal with the body’s needs of hunger and sleep.
The true Jeanne D’arc never has been a fighter. And Apo Jeanne is a flag holder and not really supposed to be a fighter. If Jeanne is summoned using 7 normal class, she would be summoned as Caster.
You’re referring to the Jeanne’s most powerful NP called ”La Pucelle”. its a suicide-type NP that can only be used once in exchange for her life.
Nah, only a broken precognition and baptismal sacraments
And lust? Would explain something.
I said perfect Ruler. Not perfect servant. She’s well equipped for fulfilling her duties as Ruler, focusing mainly on defense and having a super offensive NP where it counts. The limitations of her regular summoning haven’t impeded her work.
Enan84
Enan84
Jeanne is 100% lust, she was totally broken by dragon cock
I still fail to see what the fucking point of a Ruler of an Avenger if both are just being a nerd and watch, anyone can give me Holy Grails for dummies?
Rulers are supposed to be make sure no one cheats and the war doesn’t go out of control. The fact that Shirou doesn’t give a shit and Jeanne is awful at it is another story. Avengers are just an extra class that the Einzbern hacked into the war and takes the place of Berserker.
Einzbern tried to cheat and fucked up as usual
Avenger
Thought they were getting the devil, got a BLACKED nobody
Ruler
Best they got was a apocryphal saint who would be below Caster level if he didn’t get access to Ruler perks
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History would have been more interesting if spartacus had his Noble Phantasm when alive. I am curious why spartacus wasn’t summoned with the same clothes he had in life. Not to mention his skin color is another unusual thing, But this is fate, if anything then spartacus maybe had some mixed monster blood.
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Dumb question, based on what I heard, is that Justeaze Lizrich von Einzbern?
Why is Spartacus associated with regeneration again?
The idea that his will to rebel grows even stronger the more he is oppressed.
Can you summon Spartacus as any other class than Berserker? I feel there’s no fucking way to plan any strategy for going to the Holy Grail War with him as Punchinbagserker
Same with Frankenstein, how do you win a Grail War with a Servant whose NP is to selfdestruct (That is not a teamfight)
She said it herself a while ago that as a Ruler she wouldn’t favor any faction, yet from the looks of it, Jeanne would even make an exception if it’s concerning the GaryStu MC or Astolfo.
Should’ve left that MartyStu Asshat and his Gay lover for double suicide, that would be oh so romantic ending for two useless characters ffs.
hey redditor why are you so mad that your fanservice delinquent character isn’t supreme like the reddit said she was?
No one even mentioned Moedred here, Wanker.
Well, at the very least, I could stand Mordred, unlike the other fanservice characters here, like Jeannu (the hypocrite) or Astolfo (annoying brat).
Why is there a retarded redditor shitting his meaningless hate boner outside reddit that nobody cares about?
Please fuck off back to reddit and take your meaningless hate boner with you.
No wonder people hate redditors and his shit community.
@Wrangler Don’t worry bro, its just a single retarded redditor shitting his shit outside reddit, he did the same shit last week. Then, just ignore him and move on.
Unless I misunderstood something, some users posted some end spoilers above.
Takaii, you shouldn’t have removed the spoiler warning.
This is disappointing to say the least.
Not sure where the spoiler warning went, but I’ll have it in next time.
Manually adding spoiler tags right now.
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Sieg fall in love with astolfo, wins the holy grail to make her a girl (female) and have lots and lots of babies with her.
You could just ask the grail to make it possible for you to impregnate Astolfo in his male form. Oh, and if possible, he should be able to breasfeed without his breasts getting bigger.
Astolfo without a dick is not Astolfo.
pure love
I swear, at this point I’m more or less watching this only because of Sieg and Astolfo.
It’s not that I hate or don’t care about the plot or the other servants (I absolutely like Karna, for starters) but Sieg and Astolfo completely steal almost all of the best parts of the anime.
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Enan84
Jeanne is 100% lust, she was totally broken by dragon cock.
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Did Spartacus die?
Yeah but I’m pretty sure he exploded in the LN instead of firing a giant laser.
Wait really? I thought it was just a normal attack or something. I guess it makes sense with dumb blonde girl using her NP but the scene had no impact. Did he really just die?
Nah, his NP is literally to gain energy the more damage he takes. The only issue is there’s a limit to how much energy his body can store, therefore he just explodes.
Yeah I get that. But the scene just didn’t feel like a death scene. It was just meh. Fran had a good death scene in comparison.
Because Pako likes men in tight suits