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Summary:
With Ranka’s newfound popularity, Cathy compares her to Cinderella and asserts that Ranka has found the glass slipper after Leon suggests that the clock will eventually strike midnight. Despite how busy she is, Ranka tries to find the time to write to Alto about how every day is like a dream for her and how she’s giving her all. Her first live performance is even set to be in the same concert hall where Sheryl gave her performances. Ranka also remembers that next week is Alto’s birthday, and she promises to take time off so that she can come to the party and give him a present. She’s too busy to finish and send this message though, and Nanase is surprised to find out later from Alto that Ranka still hasn’t contacted him about his birthday. Luca thinks that Ranka has just been busy with her upcoming first live, and speaking from experience, Sheryl explains how much fun all the new things would be. Alto uses this chance to comment on how Sheryl’s had a lot of free time recently, so Sheryl asserts that her experience makes her good at time management. Her own sneezing interrupts what she’s saying though, and after Mikhail offers her a towel, she explains that she’s got a new job next week and won’t be coming to school for a while.
As it turns out, Sheryl is having a special concert on the planet of Gallia 4, and Ozma had been asked about guard duty for it. He had turned it down because Gallia 4 is where the famed New U.N. Spacy’s 33rd Marine Force was sent, and he comments to Cathy about how the government’s recent moves have been strange. Cathy promises to investigate, but she then changes the subject to Ranka’s movie, and that gets Ozma angry because he views the movie as vulgar thanks to the kiss scene between Ranka and Alto. Back at the academy, Luca is telling everyone about how Gallia 4 has an atmosphere, and that gets Alto thinking about a time from his childhood when he threw a paper airplane towards the sky. His thoughts are interrupted by the arrival of his brother Saotome Yasaburo who had seen Alto’s performance and had been happy that Alto hadn’t forgotten acting. Yasaburo isn’t Alto’s real brother but is rather a senior disciple and is in line to succeed Alto’s father Ranzou since Alto himself left home. He’s here to inform Alto that his father collapsed, and though there’s no big threat to Ranzou’s life, Yasaburo wants Alto to go home on his birthday. Doing so would resolve the issue of Alto having been disowned.
Alto is against the idea and asserts that he became a pilot, but Yasaburo thinks that Alto is lying and is convinced that Alto hasn’t stopped performing. He cites how Alto is pretending to be someone who opposes his parents and wants to be a pilot, and he thinks that Alto should stop trying to act cool. Yasaburo also feels that, no matter how much he devotes himself to it, he can’t obtain the acting blood that Alto has inherited. Meanwhile, Ranka gets an extra ticket for her first live because, as Sheryl figures out, there’s someone she wants to hand it to directly. Sheryl knows that the person in question is Alto since his birthday is coming up, and when Ranka reveals that she wants to give him something other than the ticket too, Sheryl thinks that this will make Alto happy. Ranka is surprised to hear Sheryl refer to Alto in such a familiar way, but before she can ask Sheryl about it, Sheryl gets dizzy and almost collapses. Sheryl claims that she’s okay, but she’s still feeling bad later, and Grace sees that she has a fever. Grace suggests canceling the Gallia 4 event, however Sheryl insists on going because of the rumor that there are survivors there from the Macross Galaxy.
Over on the Macross Quarter, Cathy questions Kuran about the 33rd Marine Force, so Kuran explains that she and Nene are descendants of those who sided with humans during the first great interstellar war. After the war, there were those Zentradi who reluctantly surrendered to the humans, and they didn’t get along with the other Zentradi, so they were put in the 33rd Marine Force. Kuran personally sees them as an embarrassment to the Zentradi race. Later that day, in light of the fact that Ranka has yet to talk to Alto, Nanase tells her over the phone that he and Sheryl have been getting along quite well recently. Nanase doesn’t think that the two are dating yet, but she warns Ranka that Alto could get taken from her. This makes Ranka consider her feelings for Alto, and so she decides to call him, but she only gets his voice mail. Making the best of it, she leaves a message telling him to come to the hill overlooking the city on his birthday because she has a present for him. Alto had actually left his phone in his room and is currently staring out into space, thinking about what Yasaburo had said, while he waits for Sheryl. She shows up in a revealing outfit and wants to give him a present: the ability to fly over a real sky.
On the day of his birthday, Alto considers the three options he has: see his father, meet Ranka, or take Sheryl up on her offer. He eventually makes a decision after remembering again how he had thrown paper airplanes towards the sky when he was young. When Ranka arrives on the hill after having gotten a two-hour break from work, she finds Mikhail waiting for her instead of Alto. Mikhail was sent there by Alto because Alto had chosen to go with Sheryl to Gallia 4. Unbeknownst to Alto, all of this is in line with the plans of Leon and the mysterious person he’s been in contact with. Left by herself, Ranka is joined by the creature the stole Sheryl’s underwear, and when it tries to comfort her, she feeds one of the cookies she had baked. Taking another and wishing the absent Alto a happy birthday, she bites down and finds it bitter.
ED Sequence
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ED: 「ねこ日記」 (Neko Nikki) by ランカ・リー=中島愛 (Ranka Lee=Nakajima Megumi)
Watch the ED!: Mirror 1, Mirror 2
I really didn’t think much of this song when they first played it in the background a couple of episodes ago, but it’s actually a pretty good song. I wouldn’t mind this as the ED for a few episodes, though I’m pretty sure this is only a temporary until the new one premieres either next week or the week after.
Preview
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For the most part, this episode further confirms that Ranka will become the key songstress but will grow apart from Alto in the process. What’s frustrating is that Alto didn’t even really choose Sheryl like Ranka thinks he did – he chose his dreams (the sky). Because of that, I wouldn’t say he’s gotten that much closer to Sheryl, so maybe Ranka still has a chance (I personally still prefer the Alto and Sheryl pairing). All this also made me wonder if Sheryl was intentionally trying to compete for Alto by offering something she knew he couldn’t resist, thus insuring that she’d had him all to herself on his birthday. That sounds kind of sinister, but I wouldn’t put it past her since it’s pretty clear she likes him even though he doesn’t necessarily return her feelings yet.
Anyway, the big “surprise”/implication at the end of the episode is that Grace is the one in charge of Brera. I use quotation marks because it probably isn’t surprising to those of you who have sharp ears and recognized her voice (aka. Inoue Kikuko) back in episode nine (I’m not one, but got tipped off by someone who was). It deepens the mystery of her character since she’s so close to Sheryl and is definitely trying to use her in some way, however it’s still not really clear to me what her ultimate goals are. I wouldn’t call Grace evil yet in any case, but it’ll be interesting to see how this connects with the Vajra and what the Zentradi trap mentioned in the preview is about.
hahaha nice
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the preview pic 1 looks like the zentradi who ram his ship to the sdf in the original macross series
looks like they’re fighting zentradi next week…
LOL at kodomo kuran staring at cathy “eyes”…
OMG KYRON?
ARE YOU NUTS **sorry** no better ranka and alto jeje but altoxsheril is also fun jejee a the most terrifyn part is than this macross is too similar to the original and that is boring I think so
nice song, though i wish they’d have her sing the “do you remember love?” from the first episode, her voice was really nice in that one.
altoXsheryl is better
Hermoso episodio, y Ranka-chan se ve divina posando con la almohada. Ansioso por verlo subtitulado al español.
Alto X Ranka Forever!
Somehow during the photoshoop photoshot scene, I was expecting Ranka to strip and just wear a blanket lol. And yes, I do feel that Ranka’s new found success + Sheryl’s fever will lead to Ranka being the new idol. And I’m surprised if Sheryl decides to learn piloting not just for show but for real. Reminds me of Maximillan Jenus and his wife who is also his wingman(woman?) lol
Actually I suspected Grace in episode 10 when she had that secret meeting with Leon.
Sigh..I wish Ranka would grow her hair out and stop looking so loli.
alto x sheryl gets my vote 🙂
Wow the first preview pic looks totally like Kyron except with an eyepatch.
Alto and Sheryl Love it!
It seems that this round goes to Sheryl. Yeah! You got to hand it to Alto, as long as you include the word sky or use it in your conversations, he definitely has your attention.
@Artanis
Kyhron… wrong universe… Quamzin Kravshera. Wonder if Lap/Azonia is around as well.
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Minus points in Alto’s quest to be manly. 😀
Why is he too stupid to go get a haircut? That would solve a large percentage of his current gender crisis problem.
Will Quamzin never die? I mean, I know it’s almost tradition to have him involved, but… c’mon…
Slick move on Sheryl using “endless sky” on him.Ugh…Im a rankaXalto fan so i felt a bit disappointed but i guess thats how it should be.
But Im still predicting a sheryl death and Ranka singing to save the world then disappearing like Lynn Minmay, leaving Alto alone.
Damn…alto’s voice reminds me of Graham.
AltoXRanka FTW
Trip to a planet with a real sky = Effortless, Effective, Expensive. What a perfect cheapshot. To think that Sheryl pulled this card, of course Alto will take it. Way to rake in more fans, Ranka. You deserve Alto >.O
a death would be AWESOME! but hey!!!its one or the other girl! EITHER sing to save the universe or get the love or your life…me thinks rankas gonna sing….IN HELL.hahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaah
Sheryl dying? Where do you people come up with these crazy ideas? I think we should stick to what the show gives us to now, and right now it doesn’t look like either will die.
And you know they say “alls fair in love and war.”. Sheryl saying whatever to get Altos complete attention is fine. I don’t see it any different from Rnaka playing the poor little defenseless chick to win some sympathy points early on.
It was Grace?! OMG….Shooocking. I’m a SherylxAlto fan. Sheryl is just so sexy and I love her playful personality. I would be all melting if she was talking to me. How to date a super popular singstar? Ignore that she is ultra famous. lol.
Sheryl’s not dying. She caught a cold from overworking herself so she could get good grades. Butthurt Ranka fans just like making up stuff. I also don’t think Sheryl used the “endless sky” card on Alto at all and he didn’t go for those reasons alone. She helped encourage Ranka to ask Alto to her first live. Really, all Ranka does is sit there and be emo about Alto even though she doesn’t even know a thing about him, as she has admitted. I can’t feel sorry her crush isn’t working out
@Falryu
That’s why she likes Alto early on. He just treats her like anyone else and not “Sheryl”. She says this on their “date”.
Anyways, as many of you probably figured out the show will go back and forth between Sheryl and Ranka eps till probably around 20 or so I’d guess. Then we hit the final stretch of story so the pairing stuff will probably take a bake seat. I still don’t believe who ends with who will be decided till close to the end though. Well, if anything we’ll probably have a good idea before then though.
I don’t know what on earth possessed Ranka to think that having Alto watch her concert would benefit him more than her. But it’s not surprising, seeing as Ranka spends so much time talking about herself to Alto.
Alto’s dream of a limitless sky comes right out of his own mouth in episode six. It’s not a special gift because Alto loves flying. It’s a special gift because Sheryl stopped talking about herself, listened to him, and actually remembered what he said. Sadly, that’s a rare quality to come by these days. :p
I dont think they will bring Quamzin back, he has been dead for a LONG time.
episode 13 will probably shut the ranka fans up…
As classic Macross (and other instances of love-triangles) tells us, first to strike, first to lose.
The fact that Sheryl is getting such a headway over Ranka so quickly is really worrying me as a Sheryl x Alto shipper. I am going to RAGE so hard if something goes wrong…
Wow…you guys are really critical of Ranka.
Just because she’s not as strong as the ‘amazing’ Sheryl Nome doesn’t mean you have to hate her for it; the point of Ranka’s character is to grow stronger as the series progresses. She can’t be as strong or developed as Sheryl is now-that would make her static and boring. Ranka’s development is her charm. We’re supposed to root for her and watch her grow, because she’s the normal person, the everyday girl just like everyone else. She’s been through a lot of ups and downs, and she’s trying to learn from it.
Of course she’s going to be a little bit selfish when it comes to Alto. Much like Sheryl who never met someone who treated her like a normal person, Ranka hasn’t really met someone like Alto who’s willing to lend a ear to her troubles. By now, Ranka’s realized her mistake, and that she should really get to know Alto instead of just loading her problems onto him. The problem is, she hasn’t had the chance to have a good, long talk. Goodness, how in the world is she supposed to get to know Alto when Sheryl is eating up most of his time? Sheryl is overpowering compared to Ranka, and Ranka’s too shy to try to wiggle him away from her. Not to mention she can’t go out of her way to see him because of her newfound fame. Ranka’s at an unfair disadvantage, really.
I agree with Omni, it’s SherylxAlto.
Ranka’s got plenty of people willing to listen to her troubles. There’s Nanase, Luca, and even Michael constantly looking out for her and pushing her to go after her dreams. She’s got it going pretty good compared to Sheryl, who’s only companion aside from Alto seems to be into some very dubious activities.
Ranka spends an absurd amount of time on the phone with Alto. Surely she must have asked him something about himself by now? Ranka may be busy with her job, but she’s still constantly texting him about what she’s doing, throughout this episode. If she’s changed, then why isn’t there a question in there about Alto?
I just don’t understand how people can try to pass off Sheryl’s present as some sort of underhanded move when she did the right thing to begin with. The point of a present is to get the person something for them, not something for yourself.
How can you love someone without understanding something as simple as that?
@W-General: Sheryl’s illness looks like the start of something bad, as does Grace’s implied connections. So I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re heading to a crisis over the next bunch of episodes. But isn’t that what creates the suspense?
@W-General
First to strike in this case would be Ranka. She was first to make a bond with Alto, Sheryl had that one little bit in ep1, and some funny parts in ep3 but it was all Ranka till Sheryl forced a date in ep5.
Don’t forget the constant phone calls Ranka makes to Alto about “everything”.
@Netsui
Ranka fans are just as critical about Sheryl or go off at Alto calling him an ass or jerk because he doesn’t give her the amount of attention they want to see. It’s just how fans are. I like both girls in this case unlike the original where hating Minmei was made so easy for you by the show itself. That said, I go for AltoxSheryl because the dynamic works better. There is just more going on between those two in their interactions than with him and Ranka. It just feels better with Sheryl. And true this is mostly opinion but we’re only at episode 11 out of 25 no hard evidence to really support one or the other at this point.
haha yah sherylxalto for me too. its still up in the air tho. maybe omni should put up a poll soon about it?
I still prefer the Alto x Sheryl as well. Ranka x Alto seems a bit mismatched to me. They seem more like siblings.
@pnai
Ranka deserves Alto? Because she’s pitiful in this ep? Because “you” like her?
All the good characters deserve to be happy, but nobody can go deciding who deserves who. I’ve seen this way too much in the Macross fandoms and I’m getting tired of it.
I also wonder how many people are cheering for Alto x Ranka or Sheryl according to their own preferences over Ranka and Sheryl, ignoring Alto’s feelings. It’s just not right.
@famfiel
Agrees with you!^_~
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I do think it’s mostly Alto x Ranka’s fans that fall into the category of my previous post, coz most Alto x Sheryl fans like the couple for their chemistry together.
Very very interested episode. Luca’s brothers seem to be affiliated with some mega corporation called LAI…and I could swear when the VF-27 was docking, a container marked LAI was receiving it. Leon seems to be aware of the VF-27 and Grace is apparently working with him…very very intriguing.
The plot elements revealed in this episode far out shadows than the SherylxAlto stuff going on.
heheh Sheryl and Alto all the way ^-^
I kind of agree, why do people keep thinking that Alto is ignoring Ranka? I mean if you think back you would see him treating the same to Sheryl, but unlike Ranka Sheryl doesn’t settle for nothing so she tries even harder to get Alto’s attention while Ranka just backs off. I don’t know we still have like 15 episodes more to watch, anyway it’s just an opinion. I don’t know very much about the whole macross series since this is the first macross series that I’ve watched, so I don’t know much about the way the writer writes, but I just have a bad feeling that he might change the whole script to surprise us by killing of one of the main characters….. I dunno, but it’s just a weird feeling
may i know what sheryl was doing??
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@shin1990
Demonstrating the “endless sky.”
Truth, I’m starting to doubt on Sheryl’s attitude towards Ranka after Ep5 where Ranka singing at the Zentradi Shopping Mall.Sheryl doesn’t seem satisfied on her I don’t know why.From that time I dislike Sheryl.She’s too show off and anoying for me considering she’s a singer.
@W-General:
“As classic Macross (and other instances of love-triangles) tells us, first to strike, first to lose.”
Maybe you don’t remember classic Macross too well. I’ve finally got the dvds, and I’ll be the first to admit I remembered most of it wrong.
Minmay was not the “first to strike.” In fact, she didn’t strike at all until it was far too late. First to *actually* strike always wins in Macross. Whichever member in the triangle doesn’t make a move, loses out.
Frontier is completing its equivalents to the original series slowly. Now there’s a Quamzin equivalent.
RAnka aka loli-bait for cuteness can go die >_>
AltoXSherryl foreva~ :E
Alto x Ranka is seeming less and less likely ever week.
Also. What the hell is Kamjin doing in my Frontier?!?!?
passby – When I watched that episode without the subtitles, I really thought that Sheryl was getting envious of Ranka, but with the subtitles, her look was really one of motivation, as if she relates to what Ranka is going through right now when she started out.
The fact there’s seems to be no way to patch up his relationship with his father is a bit sad 🙁 I’m not talking about giving up piloting and taking up acting again of course, I mean it’s Macross! What would we do if the prota goes off to play in movies instead of battling around in space ^^;; But I thought it would have been nice to have an ok father/son relation?
Between three choices, Alto chose Sheryl and her endless sky…but as said, while it indeed seems like Ranka is ‘loosing’, I didn’t get the feeling either AltoxSheryl got any closer…I guess a lot will depend on the life/death situation they will find themselves in, in the next episode, and how they will both react to it and to each other…if after their ‘space adventure’, nothing changes between them at all, well, I don’t know ^^;
I guess at this point of the anime, both Sheryl and Ranka are possible ‘candidate’, but it might neither too : Alto didn’t seems to have any love interest of either girls.
AltoXSheryl 😀
Well it seems like something is gonna happen to sheryl 🙁 regarding her sudden illness and all … more screen time for her and alto??
and that guy Leon >.> the purple crystal he was holding , was it sheryl’s earings? there is still more to be revealed o.o
Sheryl and Alto didn’t exactly get closer this episode but 5-11 (and you could probably slot in 12 and I’m sure 13 will be filled with undertones…) has given them an incredible base to build off later on. Expect this stuff to come into play later on if this triangle goes the way I think it will…
OMG!! Its suzaku!!
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Wow, the bashing from the rabid Sheryl fanboys is getting a bit over the top….
While I am a Ranka fan before a Sheryl fan and thus prefer RankaxAlto, I’m certainly in no rush to decide which of the two girls is going to get him when we haven’t even reached the /halfway/ point of the series yet, unlike you bashing Sheryl fanboys. It could still go either way.
/Although/ speaking in terms of things I’ve tended to see in anime where the final coupling isn’t obvious like Macross Frontier, the first relationship to form tends to be the one that takes the fall in the end. /Especially/ considering that we haven’t even reached halfway into the series yet, and there’s still so much time for lots of things to happen. The SherylxAlto relationship could be the staff’s setup for a major twist/turnpoint that sets off RankaxAlto. The fact that their relationship started up and got so far so fast so early in the series certainly doesn’t sound too good for Sheryl.
But again, it could still go either way in the next /15/ episodes, so before we start up the “Ranka, go die” fanboy bandwagons, why don’t we wait until we reach the point where things actually become definitive like /mature/ people, hmm?
Well, my hunch was correct brera x Grace is true. Since they are part of galaxy OPS than they know alot more about vajra origins. The series talk about Ranka being half zentradi and brera being possibly be her reconstructed brother and Sheryl’s earing gem being of major relevance. Klan Klan than talks about the pain of zentradi fighting zentradi.
I am seeing the vajra as a tool of the separtist zentradi in which obtaining sheryl earing and ranka’s voice will complete some ultimate plan.
on a separate note portugal is out of euro2008 and Laker lost too. So much for super star hype christian ronaldo X kobe Bryant.
Ranka x Alto, Sheryl X Alto
There are viewer who like developed and bold woman and there are viewers who likes coy younger little sister equivalent girls. It’s all personal viewers preference, and so far has little to do with the actual plot.
I guess my hunch was right, grace was giving him orders.. i think she’ll throw us a few surprises later on.
@Shinji103: It’s not like we’re seeing any more “_____ x _____ will definitely end up together” than we usually do. In fact, it’s pretty much balanced between people who think that the foundations that Sheryl built with Alto now will last her through to the end, and the people who think that Ranka will dominate the entire second half. In fact, I daresay more people are confident that Ranka will end up with Alto because of that last point.
Perhaps you’re overreacting a bit?
RankaxAlto all the way!
Someone should tell Sheryl that if you have a cold you shouldn’t run around in just your underwear.
@famfiel: I see far more people going “Forget Ranka” or “SherylxAlto 4ever” or “Ranka loses” than any other, so no I’m not overreacting.
the series is just confusing us… i think! i still go for ranka! yey!
sheryl x brera anyone? =3
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this zentraedi is definitely in the Original Macross his name is uhmmm(looks for the original macross) Kamjin the one who try to ram a battleship to Macross but failed.
@Shinji103: I see more Sheryl x Alto fans, but what Ranka x Alto fans lack in numbers they make up for in ferocity. There’s nothing wrong with saying “SherylxAlto 4ever”. If you like Ranka x Alto, cheer for them! But why would you begrudge Sheryl for having some small measure of success in her own life? Cut the poor girl some slack!
Sheryl is more my type, but I’m a sucker for girls with big dreams, so I have to go with Ranka. My sympathy goes out to here for this episode =)
I love the AltoxSheryl pairing but..
I want all “Sheryl/Ranka sucks, S/R loses / S/R X A FOREVER!!111” to shut the hell up please. If you ever want to give a bad name to the fans, then this is how you do it.
The trolling goes both ways. Sheryl x Alto obviously have more fans right now, but a few weeks ago everyone loved Ranka and hated Sheryl. The whole “first to strike” issue is complicated. Because really who struck first? Ranka is the one he met and noticed first, talked to first and connected to first.
Though I like Sheryl more then Ranka, right now I’m not sure Sheryl is “winning” as much as people think. Alto still in the end would probably help Ranka over Sheryl because he doesn’t see Sheryl as someone vulnerable or needs him. He’s kind of ignorant to both girls feelings, though he’s able to connect with Ranka on a more sibling way. Personally, I think Ranka is stronger then she thinks she is and Sheryl probably needs Alto more then she realizes. I hope Ranka is able to grow up in her own way soon.
When are we gonna get back to the space combat?
BRETTTTAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!
I’m looking forward to SherylxRankaxKyron
SherylAlto for me, and i am a fangirl <3 <3
i adore Sheryl, her personality is amazing.. i can’t wait for her past to be reveiled
since unlike Ranka, who is blessed with family and friend, Sheryl is trying/living all by herself since she is an orphan… Grace as we all expect, is not at her side too
i’m ok with SherylAlto over their chemistry together, Sheryl is Sheryl when she’s with him.. i can’t say much bout Alto though ^^’ but as long as Sheryl got her happy end, i won’t mind if she even she ended up with someone else
The Ranka fans where in force from the start but all the Sheryl attention now just seems to have made them bitter or something.
Sensible fans be it Ranka or Sheryl fans, will also point out the fact that nothing is set in stone yet, and we have 14 eps to go till the end.
Also those who say “why” they believe one pair is better over the other and don’t just flat out attack other fans are the right ones in this matter. When you at least try to be objective about things then you’re not wrong imo. But then we have those who just want to attack others because their opinions don’t match up with their own in here.
All it takes is for one nice Ranka moment to open the flood gates and you’ll have more Ranka fans than Sheryl fans posting their own crazy stuff.
And all this “first strike and first relationship” talk has no baring. We don’t even have a real “relationship” yet to speak of. Sure Sheryl has more moments with Alto at this point but has he acknowledged her as a love interest yet? or Ranka for that matter? No. Just wait, if anything come ep15 we’ll have a better idea. Not like knowing for sure will make one or the other group of fans happy if they’re on the “losing” side.
All it will take is one Ranka moment to bring back all the crazy Ranka fans. This thing does go both ways. The people who state their opinion and then back that up with why they think that way are right to do so though.
Lots of people like SherylxAlto because of the chemistry and so forth that they share together. Lots of the Sheryl fans have also pointed out that we still have half a show to go, 14eps (25 total iirc). So anything could happen, but I don’t expect any plot twists, this isn’t that kind of show. I leave that stuff for sunrise to do since they love it so much.
Sorry for the double posting, I didn’t see the first one go up for some reason.
I love Ranka, but as a sibling type character. She not only looks like she’s 12, but she for the most part, acts the part. She also as of yet, has made no attempt to do anything for Alto, or to see anything from his point of view. Sheryl has been doing this instead, and combined with the chemistry she and Alto share, makes it an easy choice. As much as I like Sheryl personally over Ranka for a relationship, I’m also trying to look at this through Alto’s eyes. Or at least, who I think he is most compatible with romantically.
He’s not showing much interest in either girl at this point, so maybe he’ll never pick anybody?
I have to agree with Westlo, Kawamori is very intricate in webbing the initial details that will build as the foundation for future episodes. I don’t think people can determine who ends up with who until episode 20 or so where Kawamori will probably pull all the strings and draw on the underpinnings he made on the first 18 episodes of the show. But until then.. Go Sheryl you go girl! lol!
Do sheryl not know what grace is about or she doesn’t care?
I don’t think she knows. Grace does everything in her “cyberbrain”. For all Sheryl knows she’s just sitting there looking around.
@Netsui- I love it when in the midst of all these Sheryl worshippers, someone points out the most obvious thing that they’ve been ignoring–purposely. 🙂 Kawamori set Ranka as a weaker character next to Sheryl so that she can p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s throughout the entire series. Kawamori set Ranka to know LESS of Alto compare to Sheryl so that she can get to know him B-E-T-T-E-R together with us, the audience. Come episode 13, I bet Alto’s past will be the topic of their little chit chat. Being critical of Ranka and labeling her as the unfavored girl just because Sheryl is the stronger type, seriously, are we down to episode 25 already? =/ Ranka’s character has been given so much attention in the past 11 episodes. I can bet Sheryl also has something in her sleeve, but in the long run, I’m pretty sure the main focus of the show will still be about Ranka and Alto. The way they ended this scene with Ranka looking at the sky and being the ONLY ^.^ girl who was made to greet him Happy Birthday on behalf of the audience just looked so special. How can someone conclude she would still end up like this after the long ping pong match? They’ve been developing Ranka and Alto since episode 1. ^__^ Kawamori just likes to torture his lead characters.
I would also like to point out that Sheryl’s looks doesn’t even come close to Ranka’s feelings for Alto, seriously. =) I love the new ED theme (contrary to what I expected) and the BGM in this episode. I can’t wait to see how Kawamori will twist episode 12 so that Ranka and Alto can have their well-deserved quality time in episode 13 lol
naw, Sheryl knows. If you all look back onto ep. 5 where she told Hime-sama how Grace knew it and told her…and then telling him that she’s ‘all natural’.
“Personally, I think Ranka is stronger then she thinks she is and Sheryl probably needs Alto more then she realizes. I hope Ranka is able to grow up in her own way soon.”
This is probably how the series is going to end, Ranka with great personal growth and overcoming her past and Sheryl with Alto who she realizes she needs more than she thought. (Grace more than likely betraying/using her will end up dying which leaves Sheryl all alone) I expect Ranka to finally make a move sometime around the 13-15 episode mark (and people who have read the synopsis for 13 know why) which will get Sheryl thinking what Alto really is to her. She needs this kick up the ass from Ranka to actually make her relationship with Alto progress since at this stage they are way to tsundere with each other.
Eps 5-11 has been a great base for Sheryl and Alto, even #1 Ranka fangirl Nanase recognizes how close they are to each other.
@ ani_d
lol @ you using Kawamori past shows as now evidence for your ship after whining about Sheryl fans doing the same for the last month. And have you actually seen Escaflowne or is this another 1-2 episodes + read the wiki thing? There was no real doubt that Van was the one for Hitomi and the kiss scene between Hitomi and Allen was so contrived it was stupid.
@Westlo
I agree with you, Ranka developing and being key to the story doesn’t equal her and alto being together. Minmei was key to the original’s story way more than Misa was and she was also being developed from the start.
What ani_d points out doesn’t say much. Who is ignoring the fact that Ranka is being developed more? That’s pretty obvious to anyone watching the show, but that also doesn’t mean it has anything to do with what Alto wants or will choose.
Yes there is more going on with Ranka and the Vejira and her voice and whatever Grace is doing with Leon. But that and the triangle are different things. And excuse me but can you actually sit there and say Sheryl hasn’t been developing as a character along with Alto and to an extent the other characters as well since episode 1? You make it sound like only Ranka has seen character development.
Ani_d is a slightly delusional Ranka Lee fangirl, she thinks that Ranka Lee will be more important than Sheryl in every aspect of the show even though Kawamori and crew have done a good job in building them up to be equal leads.
How anyone can think that Ranka Lee will be more important to the plot, get the most character development (because Sheryl and Alto are more complete characters at the start), become a big superstar and also win Alto is beyond belief. This is a Kawamori triangle not some typical harem show which is named after the main girl and all the other girls have no chance period. It’s called Macross Frontier not Magical Idol Ranka Lee…
What Ranka is going through over Alto and Sheryl atm will more than likely happen to Sheryl at a later stage except RxA’s relationship will be real and not imagined. There’s this thing called twists and turns and if you think this love triangle has only one twist left when only glancing blows have been landing than lol @ you. Ranka’s going to make her run early and all the build up between Sheryl and Alto will come into play later… the song Sheryl wrote in episode 5 for instance…
Now to do a Ani_d parody.
Wow isn’t it awesome that Sheryl called Alto out to that observatory, it just shows how much they talk to each other on their mobiles and lol what’s with Alto not having his mobile on him when he went to meet her! Even though Alto has family issues he still makes time for Sheryl-sama!! Kawaii XD ^___^
“They’ve been developing Ranka and Alto since episode 1. ^__^ ”
And they didn’t really start Hikaru and Misa until Bye Bye Mars so what’s your point? If you want to pretend that Misa yelling at Hikaru and vice versa is development than Sheryl and Alto also started in episode 1.
Well i think Ranka is overall still the lead female and sheryl a few steps back , therefore it is natural for the series to go more indepth of Ranka’s past and more screen time for her emotions part. But sheryl cannot be excluded as she plays an important character in this series and it sorta balances with ranka’s character and she always surprises people 😉
However the part where who will Alto end up with is not clear at all for now , who knows they might just end up with all being close friends and continue the way life was.
but what im definately looking forward to is the story plot/content regarding so many unsaid truths 😀 and the twist in most series which is epi 13.
not too much of the character guessing right now cause its not going to go anywhere unless we watch the later part of the series to get a more precise prediction 😛
“Kawamori set Ranka as a weaker character next to Sheryl so that she can p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s throughout the entire series. Kawamori set Ranka to know LESS of Alto compare to Sheryl so that she can get to know him B-E-T-T-E-R together with us, the audience.”
What are you on about? Sheryl doesn’t magically know everything about Alto, what she’s found out is a combination of perception, general knowledge (Alto’s dad is famous after all as is Alto in a way) as well as her actually asking Alto questions instead of talking about herself 99% of the time like Ranka currently does with Alto. We as an audience are also seeing Sheryl getting to know Alto, her present in this episode she knew about because back in episode 6…
Sheryl – Hey Alto, do you like this ship?
Alto – I hate it I don’t like city ships.
Sheryl – Why?
Alto – There’s no sky here.
When you ask people stuff you get to know them, but if you just talk about yourself you’re not going to know squat about them. This is why Sheryl gets Alto and Ranka doesn’t at this stage, also the chemistry and personality match between Sheryl and Alto is imo far better.
Look at how Noe was at the start of the series, look how she overcome her “crutches” at the end without hooking up with Shin, expect the same ending for Ranka.
Oh hold on, did someone start to compare True Tears to macross f?
Are these the same people who keep screaming “canvas 2 ending, anything can happen!”??
Unlike macrossF, true tears set the base for the plot right at the start as to what Shin wanted to do, that was to take Hiromis tears away. It’s the goal that set all his future action in the show, it also set the ending up. It was always going to be a Hiromi ending, and if people missed this and other signs along the way, I don’t know what to say. Sorry I suppose?
But that is TT and this is MacF, they’re not the same. We don’t know what Alto wants to do in regards to the two girls, only that he wants to fly for his own reasons. While the 3 characters develop through their interactions with each other and other events that doesn’t mean that they’re tied together to one another in the same way TT characters where (mostly Shin and Hiromi).
I only mentioned True Tears because me and ani_d waged “war” over it (me for Hiromi, her for Noe) on AnimeSuki so it’s an example I know she will get. (I remember a lot of crying Noe fans here but she wasn’t one of them… I think) Yes they are completely different… the parallel I’m drawing between Noe and Ranka is that they were the lead female characters of the show (though Hiromi like Sheryl is pretty much an equal lead) and have the more apparent problems which will be dealt with by character growth and not hooking them up with the main character. Like how Noe was finally able to cry in addition to making friends Ranka will come to terms with her past, overcome her fears and mature as a person. As long as Kawamori doesn’t kill her off that is…
Ok, heh.
I just don’t see how people could go off and wage war on something like TT when the premise for the story as set in episode one made things clear. But oh well, there is a saying that fans will see what they want to see regardless of the story/plot.
I agree on you though, at this point, as far as Ranka and Sheryl development and how it may go in regards to Alto. The key here is that Sheryl likes him because he brings her back to normality. And out of that idol songstress cloud she’s been in on her own (well Grace is there, but…). Ranka likes him because he’s been the first to not treat her like a kid and listened, gave support for her dream and so on when everyone, specially Ozma tried to stop her.
But like you have said, and I believe I have before in the past I see Ranka growing stronger independently and standing on her own to feet while she rises up in fame and reaches her goal. This dream of hers doesn’t mean she “needs” Alto to hold her hand through it all though, and it’s for the best if she can do it herself.
As Ranka goes up I also see Sheryl going back down to earth so to speak and finding that normal life with someone she’s never had. In terms of who benefits the most out of what type of ending, as you’ve pointed out, a Sheryl end is win for both her and Ranka.
This still doesn’t take into account what Alto feels about the two and what he wants to do.
For those who are talking about a love triangle in Zero and how it relates to Frontier, there really wasn’t a triangle exactly. The guy always liked Sara, and the little sister had a one sided crush on him. Yeah she confessed and all that but the guy liked her sister and so on. There was no real conflict between his feelings for one or the other. Now the original had this conflict which made it great, add to that the different lifestyle Hikaru would live had he picked one over the other. Staying with Minmei means his dream of flying and protecting everyone would end. So his choice was already set a good 4-5 episodes before Minemi came running back saying she “needs” him and so on.
Anyways, the big talk is episode 13 now, and it could be a good Ranka turning point. but we’ll have to see where it leads things, and what happens after. Either way both girls know how the other feels, it’s just Alto that we’re waiting on now.
Well I thought True Tears was obvious from the start but a lot of people disagreed… anyway I’m pretty sure Alto will have feelings for both but hopefully he’s not too indecisive when it gets down to it.
“As Ranka goes up I also see Sheryl going back down to earth so to speak and finding that normal life with someone she’s never had. In terms of who benefits the most out of what type of ending, as you’ve pointed out, a Sheryl end is win for both her and Ranka.”
That’s the thing, I can’t think of a good losers ending for Sheryl while Ranka can easily have one of the better ones.
Start of series – Galactic Fairy with her manager Grace
End of series – Galactic Fairy who’s good friends with Alto and Ranka yet never sees them because she’s touring all the time. Grace is dead, knows her past.
Not exactly much character progression is it? Even Minmei gets a better ending by going with her only friends in Hikaru and Misa on the Megaroad. I really don’t see Kawamori giving his most popular character and a character who’s an archetype he loves a crap ending.
One thing is for sure… Sheryl did that on purpose. She knows Ranka likes him and she knows Ranka was going to invite him to her show. What she did was pretty backstabbing to a friend. She shouldn’t be nice to Rankas face and backstab her from behind. If the roles were reversed Ranka would not have done something like that to Sheryl.
@GP
And excuse me but can you actually sit there and say Sheryl hasn’t been developing as a character along with Alto and to an extent the other characters as well since episode 1? You make it sound like only Ranka has seen character development.
I am talking about Ranka Lee not Sheryl Nome’s character so it is expected that I’m going to be talking about her own character development. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all. To make things clear, I’m not pertaining about the presence of character development but rather the amount of character development from the get go. It’s hands down Ranka and Alto unless you can point some scenes to counterprove this based on the first 4 episodes. I won’t flame you unlike your friendly neighborhood Sheryl biased fan, Westlo.
@Westlo
lol @ you using Kawamori past shows as now evidence for your ship after whining about Sheryl fans doing the same for the last month.
Uh, excuse me, YOU are the one using Kawamori’s past shows to debunk a Ranka ending with NO stronger evidences to back it up with? Remember? These are the things Westlo said:
“Sheryl is more in line with Kawamori’s preferences so it’s going to be a Sheryl ending.”
“It’s going to be a Sheryl ending because she has better chemistry according to all Kawamori shows”
“Minmay has the most screentime in SDF Macross compared to Misa, so it’s still a Sheryl ending in MF.” (When clearly Misa was the most developed character in the show =/ Yeah, I watched it for yours truly.)
“Based on all Kawamori shows, one girl is always the plotdevice while the other is love interest for the sake of even-ness” (When clearly NOONE ever enforced this to begin with and not necessarily true.)
“No matter how much focus Ranka’s character development gets here I’m just going ignore that because this is a Kawamori show and it’s going to be Sheryl ending”
“You Ranka fans are delusional because this is a Kawamori show and there’s going to be a twist here because it’s a Sheryl ending!” Blah blah blah. ^___^
There’s a big difference between backing yourself with strong evidences and walking on egg shells here.
Before you call me a delusional fangirl, please do tell me which girl has the most focus in the show between Sheryl and Ranka and maybe you’ll realize that Ranka Lee in Macross Frontier isn’t the same as Noe from True Tears who was basically outscreened by Hiromi. Stop countering with nothing but a Kawamori history then maybe we’ll get a real discussion going. For the record, I’ve waged No war against you, but I’ve been a sport to admit that my biasness has clouded my judgment in TRUE TEARS. I expect for you to do the same in October 17th for MF.
What are you on about? Sheryl doesn’t magically know everything about Alto, what she’s found out is a combination of perception, general knowledge (Alto’s dad is famous after all as is Alto in a way) as well as her actually asking Alto questions instead of talking about herself 99% of the time like Ranka currently does with Alto. We as an audience are also seeing Sheryl getting to know Alto, her present in this episode she knew about because back in episode 6…
And why are you so defensive? ^__^ It’s like I was right on the mark. What you just said up there just reinforced what I said about Sheryl. She knows Alto more than Ranka (who basically knows almost nada) no matter what kind of methods she used. The situation is as it is right now. Case end.
Not exactly much character progression is it? Even Minmei gets a better ending by going with her only friends in Hikaru and Misa on the Megaroad. I really don’t see Kawamori giving his most popular character and a character who’s an archetype he loves a crap ending.
So the crap ending for a RankaxAlto ending is a Sheryl ending? Hahah see? Another Kawamori evidence with nothing to based on from the story but pure imagination. I thought the ending of Escaflowne was beautiful and realistic and by no means crap, thank you very much.
and hello dorama!
unlike most FANS, i’m going to sit back and enjoy the ride as sheryl/ranka tug at our hime’s sleeves. but of course, this debate brings incredible lulz.
I dislike Sheryl always backstabing Ranka.>< But I don’t hate the SherylxAlto pair.
>> unlike most FANS, i’m going to sit back and enjoy the ride as sheryl/ranka tug at our hime’s sleeves. but of course, this debate brings incredible lulz.
This. I don’t care who Alto ends up with, because either way Ranka will be more important in the end. She’s a better singer, and thus, plot-crucial. 🙂
lol nunka ^_^ All right, sorry guys for the little shipping squabble. I’ll drop it. It’s all Westlo’s fault haha
lol nunka ^_^ All right, sorry guys for the little shipping squabble. I’ll drop it. It’s all Westlo’s fault haha
It takes two to tango.
You know it’s kinda funny that you are all fighting like mad for something that will only be revealed in the end. For the moment however…
I have a feeling that Grace isn’t actually an antagonist as many believe. Something tells me she is playing double agent here. For whom I don’t know yet.
Zentradi trap? You mean they’ve got a giant a pretty as Alto-hime??
“You know it’s kinda funny that you are all fighting like mad for something that will only be revealed in the end. For the moment however…”
That goes to show the a common thing we have LOVE FOR ANIME
Damn you Alto. I don’t like how you’ve been mistreating Ranka’s feelings.
Alto doesn’t even care for either girl that much. I don’t even think he is interested in anything other than the sky or his mom LOL.
He isn’t impressed by Sheryl despite her charms and he treats Ranka like a kid sister. Sheryl probably sees him as a challenge for her while Ranka doesn’t look up to him like a big brother either.
And despite what everyone thinks of a happy ending (as long he gets any girl = happy ending), I think Kawamori will kill Alto off. Towards the end of the series, Alto will probably realise that both girls are going to be used (Sheryl is already is, and Leon is interested in Ranka which is bad)and fight to the death just to save them.
A true hero. And true heroes die.
i think we better stop all shipping comments from now on.at least when things get really, REALLY clear? talk abt the battles, zentradi, history or whatever and a ‘i like ___x___!!!’ is enough. im getting dizzy wth all these arguements!sorryyy~~it’s just that both sides are really loyal and intelligent fans, and seems like we are quite eager to back our team eh?^^
“A true hero. And true heroes die.” – If they managed to accomplish something maybe, other than that, they are just a waste of space. Considering it’s a macross, I don’t see the protagonist dying at the end.
The last thing to happen would be the main character dying.
And no ones overlooking the fact that Ranka will be more important to the plot than Sheryl, but so what? Using that as an argument doesn’t mean much at this point. For all we know she might have something inside her that they want (whatever was glowing last time), and that could be the extent of it. There is no real proof that she’s somehow going to be the savior of the fleet at this point. And in fact her voice has the opposite effect you’d expect. Where Minmei was able to sing and thus make the enemy stop fighting, Ranka sings and the Vajira go whiled and attack instead.
As for Grace, I think she’s the perfect sleeper agent. Being Sheryls manager lets her go all over the universe from fleet to fleet and planets on her search for Ranka or whatever Ranka has that they want. She can move freely and get special treatment without it raising any flags, a great cover.
@Stranger I’m agree that Alto-hime would never choose either girls because he is choosing to fly as Ranka will choose her popularity (like Minmay) ^^;
“The last thing to happen would be the main character dying.”
I would say something like check out the previous Kawamori series but that would ruin the ending wouldn’t it? Doubt it will happen but don’t rule it out.
@ ani_d
lol @ you. You like found one line I said that twisted about 4-5 more lines. At least my parody of you was spot on, since you love to bring up how often Ranka and Alto talk on the phone while ignoring Sheryl and Alto do the same. Anyway since you never replied I guess you gave Escaflowne the wiki treatment yeah? Kawamori’s best series deserves better than that :\ I mean who would seriously compare Van Fanel and Ranka Lee’s situations except a desperate fan girl trying to reach for something, anything?
“I am talking about Ranka Lee not Sheryl Nome’s character so it is expected that I’m going to be talking about her own character development. I don’t see anything wrong with that at all. To make things clear, I’m not pertaining about the presence of character development but rather the amount of character development from the get go. It’s hands down Ranka and Alto unless you can point some scenes to counterprove this based on the first 4 episodes.”
Once again I’ll say this since you conveniently ignored it. Misa and Hikaru didn’t really start to develop until Bye Bye Mars which I think is episode 7. Macross was originally suppose to be 26 episodes long but got a 10 episode extension (which resulted in the 2 clip shows) due to high ratings (20% I believe). Now you probably want to reply that they did start in episode 1 but if that’s the case than so did Sheryl and Alto which puts your argument down the drain so of course you won’t will you?
So with Frontier being 25 episodes long Sheryl and Alto have a 1 episode advantage over the original pairing. It doesn’t matter if Ranka has a 4 episode head start since Minmei had a 6 episode headstart and the head start has been completely eroded by now anyway and if anything it’s Ranka playing catch up since Sheryl and Alto have interacted much more in the last 6 episodes.
“Uh, excuse me, YOU are the one using Kawamori’s past shows to debunk a Ranka ending with NO stronger evidences to back it up with?”
I know I have and don’t pretend I was the only one since a lot of Kawamori fans have been saying the exact same thing. Now I find it funny how you constantly ridculed us for doing this and all of a sudden you come up with “They’ve been developing Ranka and Alto since episode 1. ^__^ Kawamori just likes to torture his lead characters.” and something similar to that on AnimeSuki. Here’s a word for you, hypocrite.
“Before you call me a delusional fangirl, please do tell me which girl has the most focus in the show between Sheryl and Ranka and maybe you’ll realize that Ranka Lee in Macross Frontier isn’t the same as Noe from True Tears who was basically outscreened by Hiromi.”
The only time you even considered Hiromi the main girl of True Tears is after the last episode, do you really want me to go look through the True Tears forums for quotes or should I just make them up like you did with me in your post? I can already see the “Sheryl was the main girl of Frontier” posts coming from you in 5-6 months time as we fight over another pairing in the Fall season. And I’ve freely admitted that Ranka is the main lead and will be the focus of the plot, you’re a fool if you think Kawamori will give Ranka the musical career, the key to the plot, most character development in addition to Alto. Sheryl’s too popular and too much of a key part of the show to be treated like Siesta from ZnT or Yoshida from Shana. The quicker you understand this the better for you.
“For the record, I’ve waged No war against you, but I’ve been a sport to admit that my biasness has clouded my judgment in TRUE TEARS. I expect for you to do the same in October 17th for MF.”
Of course you have to admit you were wrong since…. well you were wrong! I’ll admit when I’m wrong but atm I have a perfect record and aside from my Ayu Mayu manga prediction (Mayu which I decided in chapter 1 lolz) I’m fairly confident in all my ongoing predictions for this show, Vampire Knight (Zero), Shugo Chara (Ikuto) & Skip Beat (Ren).
“And why are you so defensive? ^__^ It’s like I was right on the mark. What you just said up there just reinforced what I said about Sheryl. She knows Alto more than Ranka (who basically knows almost nada) no matter what kind of methods she used. The situation is as it is right now. Case end.”
The way you twist stuff are you on the path to becoming a politician? You were just bragging about how we as the audience will get to know Alto at the same time Ranka does unlike Sheryl. When I point out that Sheryl has found out about Alto with us, *just like you said Ranka would) you actually say I’ve reinforced your point?
“So the crap ending for a RankaxAlto ending is a Sheryl ending? Hahah see? Another Kawamori evidence with nothing to based on from the story but pure imagination. I thought the ending of Escaflowne was beautiful and realistic and by no means crap, thank you very much.”
You’ve lost me here, calm down, take a few breaths and try again. If you don’t want to continue this here reply to this in the Romance thread on Suki.
quote from unknown2:
“Slick move on Sheryl using “endless sky” on him.Ugh…Im a rankaXalto fan so i felt a bit disappointed but i guess thats how it should be.
But Im still predicting a sheryl death and Ranka singing to save the world then disappearing like Lynn Minmay, leaving Alto alone.
Damn…alto’s voice reminds me of Graham.”
I agree with you on this. I can see it happening any time now as this show is moving to fast for my old age. It really is fast-paced. But like you mentioned, similar to how Lynn Minmay left, I can see this plot developing between Alto and whomever he may have fallen for in the end. ’tis is sad.
The author just thinks it’s “cool” having such endings. It seems as if he has this misanthropic concept that bends at will when it comes to ANY and ALL sweet, innocent, dark and sometimes sneering relationships. I believe he has been through too many (or not enough) relationships, so he tends to surmise society as is:
A likes C.
B likes C.
B likes A.
A incidentally falls for D.
C ends with B due to a shift in emotion.
C still does not forget about A.
A gets raped by D.
A seeks asylum within C’s warmth.
B has been left alone.
A leaves C.
B and C is together again.
C and A meets again.
C tells A she loves him, but decides it’s best to end it.
B notices this.
C notices A having second thoughts.
C decides to keep A in his heart and accept no other love, or rape A and live a happy life with B.
C comes to a conclusion. He wants a non-physical love. He wants A to straddle on top of him in his wet dreams.
C is now left with no one. He is alone. Drifting between wet dreams and reality.
revised:
…
A tells C she loves him, but wants to end it for the best of both.
B notices how much C whacks-in-thoughts about A.
C notices B having thought about abandoning him as A did.
C has to decide (1) keep A locked up in his heart. (2) Keep A close in his heart and accept no other love. (3) Rape A and exists happily with B.
C comes to a conclusion. He wants a non-physical commitment. He wants A to straddle on top of him in his stark wet dreams.
C is now left with no one. He is all alone. He drifts aimlessly in-between wet dreams and reality. Also, he oftentimes keep his hands busy imagining despicable images of A and B.
@Westlo
The last Kawamori show I saw was Aquarion and uhh, the main lived, unless my memory is skewed. But that’s hardly the same type of show anyways.
Apollo is gone at the end of 26 but I haven’t seen the OVAs so who knows he might be back. And yes it’s a different show but don’t rule out the possibility. I don’t see any of them dying personally though if any of the main trio do die Ranka has the highest chance. Her connection with the Varja vastly outweighs the cold/virus Sheryl has.
The OVA is different, I don’t wanna spoil it though so I won’t say how or why.
And I’m with you, basically I don’t see them dying, there would have to be a very good reason for any of them to, and it’d be plot driven. Only time will tell but heck if this matches up with past macross shows then it’s highly doubtful.
At this point I just don’t see it. Maybe up by ep15 or 18 things could look different.
How does the OVA work? Do they replace the last few episodes or something? Or is it a continuation? I’ll probably check it out sometime soon since I’m interested now and I actually restarted watching Aquarion a few weeks back.
It sure seems like there’s a fair amount of sickness going around in this episode. Sheryl’s got a cold from overwork. Alto’s father also. And, at the beginning of the episode, it is revealed that the Hydras’ aggressive behavior is due to some sort of Vajra-related infection. Of course President Glass assures everyone that people – “ningyen” – cannot catch the Hydra plague, but the reassurances of politicians aren’t typically reliable in anime.
Also, a language question: Glass claims that “ningyen” cannot catch the plague. How specific is the Japanese word “Ningyen”? Are Zentradi “ningyen”? Maybe Glass is hand-waving over the question of whether Zentradi can catch it?
Whatever it is, if Alto did not follow Sheryl it would be a boring Ep12 !
Need more mecha fighting ftw.
if you’ve watched the end of the director’s cut of the first episode, you’ll hear some snippets of lines from the whole show. The last one was Ranka which suggests that she might come across a life and death situation. Can’t wait to watch more of this awesome show! sherylxalto!
@Westlo
Well, since you asked, it’s none of those, but it does effect the original series. I can’t really say without spoiling it since you don’t find out till the end.
I don’t know if anyone noticed this, but the conversation in the pool has been bugging me.
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@Tarsun
You’re thinking too much, she just didn’t send it for some reason. If it wasn’t for Nanase pushing her and scaring her with AltoxSheryl she wouldn’t have called him right away either.
Fuck pairing QQ drama, gief me moar mecha.
lol…really does it matter who ends up with who? When you put it like this: you guys are essentially arguing about anime love between fictional anime characters over the internet…I mean really stage the same conversation as loud as you can in a really public place and you’d get an idea what I’m talking about. Geek speech.
lmao@anti-westlo!
@Tarsun
-Ranka had to erase her loooong text message to Alto because she had to go (I guess her uber advanced green celly doesn’t have a ‘save draft’ feature), her loud manager has been nagging her to work work work. There are technical plot holes in this episode, but they were all fitted in order to show that a wall is slowly forming between herself and Alto. ^__^ Just like in Nanase’s(her comrade) report, if Ranka doesn’t do something, she’s going to lose Alto. I think if Ranka is not meant to be with Alto, this is the deciding point whether she’ll let him slip away or not for the sake of her fame (that I think will not last anyway). =) Next to Alto’s problems, this is the next main focus of the episode.
My take on Alto’s family problems is that, he does love acting, but his love for the sky is also genuine. So when his step-brother (or anyone) comes and convicts him of denying his love for acting or questioning his love for the sky, he gets defensive because there’s some truth to it if he can’t totally forget the other one and vice versa. Then, he gets confused. I think his decision to go to Planet Galia is nothing but an escape because he can’t face his problems head on.
Why we should stop arguing on who ends up with who:
1. The script writers might have decided to pick the pairing by something as random as the roll of dice, and the current circumstances don’t matter with how it progresses and ends.
2. Flush that ego down the drain. The world doesn’t really care of how good you are in guessing endings. (What impact do you have in society by guessing right about an anime ending, really?)
3. It is a waste of time, spending energy like this negatively. Do something more productive.
At this point, I’d still love to see Alto x Sheryl as a personal preference. That’s all.
I’m rooting for altoxranka but it doesn’t mean that I hate altoxsheryl coupling. I do love her character(except for the uncool bitchiness); better than Ranka I believe. But somehow, some *old* geek are seriously damn annoying and overly fussy(lol…give damn long comments. Is this some kind of essay competition dood? =/) about all this love triangle between ’em. Frankly speaking, I don’t think I will continue watching this anime if it doesn’t comprises unrequited love theme and jealousy between the characters. And I love rivalry between RankaxAltoxSheryl besides mecha madness. It makes MF looks predictably awesome anime. Kawamori is brilliant!!
I love Mai! <3
People would take you more seriously if you ditch the “anti-westlo” bit. It makes you look like a troll hiding behind your computer screen. I love internet wank as much as the next amused person, but I see no trolling, I see a sadly pitiful attempt at being witty. I may not agree with Westlo at times, but at least he’s entertainingly aggressive and it’s fun to see people cower. 😀
Sheryl is love!! Can’t wait for the next episode. Wheee~
I agree with mai and anti-weslo(wtf??!!)…Just like westlo, I’m Sheryl biased too. It’s indeed fun too see people arguing with each other but honestly, it’s not fun at all when some fanboy are too ego and f*cking serious. Oh, and I love Mai’s viewpoint.
Anti-westlo I prefer Yui and yami to lala, tyvm.
The soundtrack is really nice. I wonder how will the story flow.