Fate/stay night – 17
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Summary:
Shirou is having another dream about Saber. This time, he hears the unhappy murmurings of her men after she sacrificed a village to win a battle. Waking up from the dream, he starts wondering what she meant back when she told him about the duty she didn’t accomplish in her lifetime and that she wanted to start over. The girls have gathered in the dining room, where Sakura has cooked enough food for everyone, which now includes herself, Fuji-nee, Saber, Rin, Ilya, and Shirou. Sakura appears to be worried after hearing about another gas leak accident on the news. Relating to what they saw on TV, Rin, Shirou, and Saber discuss the Ryuudoji situation. Ilya joins them and explains that there are two Servants there: Assassin and Caster. Caster was the one who summoned Assassin, and killed her original master. Her current master is not a mage, but just a normal human. Ilya also says that Caster was originally Medea.
Issei drops by to see Shirou. When the topic of Kuzuki comes up, Issei says that their teacher has been living at Ryuudoji for 3 years. Rin overhears this and starts suspecting that Kuzuki is the master. In order to find out for sure, Rin, Saber, and Shirou ambush him that night on the street. However, Caster appears and blocks Rin’s magic – Kuzuki is indeed Caster’s master. He says that he doesn’t care that she’s taking people’s lives. Kuzuki admits that he’s not a mage and that he has no interest in the Holy Grail War – he’s just a horrific killer. Caster launches a magic attack at Shirou, but Saber deflects it. She attacks Kuzuki, but he’s able to avoid all of her swings and even catches her blade between his elbow and his knee. He has Caster enhance his fists and is easily able to defeat Saber and then Rin. After Kuzuki shatters the pole Shirou was using as a weapon, Shirou realizes that he needs something stronger and remembers Archer. He recreates Archer’s two swords (Kanshou and Bakuya) and starts fighting Kuzuki with them. However, Kuzuki is still far superior in technique and in strength. The impact of the blows wound Shirou’s arms to the point of bleeding.
Caster stops the fight and proposes that they work together. She explains that there is a way to summon the Holy Grail without killing each other. If they help her out, she’ll give them some of the Holy Grail’s benefits. Rin figures out that in order to do this, Caster needs a mage – a sacrifice. Of course Shirou and company aren’t going to work with Caster, so she takes Kuzuki and disappears after mentioning that she knows of an appropriate mage. Rin and Shirou think that it must be Ilya and they all rush home. Saber gets there first and finds Sakura on the floor. She helps Sakura up, but Sakura stabs Saber in the chest – it’s actually Caster controlling Sakura. She’s used her Noble Phantasm “Rule Breaker,” but with Sakura’s level of magical power, it can’t cancel out Saber’s contract. Instead, Saber just won’t be able to use her sword anymore. Shirou and Rin arrive to find Saber on the ground and Sakura floating outside. Caster says that she’ll be using Sakura as the sacrifice needed to summon the Holy Grail. If they want her back, they’re welcome to come to the temple. Sakura then flies off and disappears.
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So all of the Sakura hints they kept dropping really do mean that she’s getting involved in the story now. But Sakura herself doesn’t appear to be evil, it’s just Caster controlling her. I’m still personally hoping that Rider will make a return, but that seems unlikely (though not entirely impossible).
I was very surprised to see Shirou recreate Kanshou and Bakuya. Doing so seems to only further reinforces the links between him and Archer. With the way they’re going, maybe Shirou will learn to use Unlimited Blade Works before this is all over.
And I really didn’t expect Kuzuki himself to kick so much ass. With Caster’s magic buffing him up, I don’t see a way for Shirou, Rin, or Saber to stop Kuzuki. And they also have Assassin to worry about if they plan to attack the temple, which is what they appear to be doing in the preview. It appears to be more fusion of the three storylines.
April 28, 2006 at 4:31 pmRasmiel
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Hmm, okay, Caster’s hair is shorter than it’s supposed to be?
April 28, 2006 at 4:31 pmjj
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DAN!! DARK SAKURA!!!! or not…
and shirou just use image to get archer(shirou)’s twin swords!
April 28, 2006 at 4:33 pmZelath
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I can’t wait for Eclipse to release the subbed version, this is the first new episode for me to wait for, just finished 1-16 within this last week.
April 28, 2006 at 4:34 pmKaya
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Is it true that Saber is going to bacome…
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April 28, 2006 at 4:36 pmjj
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according to the new opening, saber turns dark is totally out of way now, so no worry.
April 28, 2006 at 4:40 pmmikemil828
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So this is what they meant by taking a direction even the gamers would be surprised with………
April 28, 2006 at 4:41 pmkws
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So now it seems things are going in UBW direction?? Or may be a mixture with Fate as well?
What happened to Shirou after he used the twin blades?
April 28, 2006 at 4:41 pmKaya
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AH thanks that’s better to know that the story maybe will go in a different way. Hope to see soon te subbed version…:)
April 28, 2006 at 4:45 pmA Person
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Holy Shit. It’s like a mixture of UBW AND Heaven’s Feel now. Whoa, this series jsut became A LOT better…
Ahhh…. now we need to wait for the fan sub… =(
April 28, 2006 at 5:03 pmmango
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>=/ saber better not turn dark
April 28, 2006 at 5:14 pmT_I
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I’d say don’t watch Fate for pairing.
It’s the wrong reason. Plus it will hurt less for you guys. :p
April 28, 2006 at 5:24 pmChewie
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Shirou pulling out the double blades? MUST SEE!
April 28, 2006 at 5:33 pmSol Fighter
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Cool the blades, anyway who’s the girl in the last screen?
April 28, 2006 at 5:36 pmT_I
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unhooded Caster
April 28, 2006 at 5:36 pmRasmiel
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@ Sol Fighter
Not sure if this counts as a spoiler but…
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April 28, 2006 at 5:43 pmcarunk
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The real question is about the second to last cap from the preview Show Spoiler ▼
April 28, 2006 at 5:43 pmSol Fighter
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She looks way to cute for a villain. Can’t wait for the subbed version, I’m glad I continued to watch this series, I considered dropping it in the beginning but I’m glad I didn’t.
April 28, 2006 at 5:49 pmctjanus
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I take it Caster is gonna be next to move in with Shirou :) ??
April 28, 2006 at 5:52 pm*Chi*
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Just hope, that when Rin use her magic the synchro will be better than last two episodes. I can tell you guys, I’m from Germany, and the German she the synchro of Rin did is really.. crap-_-
Too much Japanese accent in it and she lose just too much of the original Rin voice. That’s a part, the synchro team should work on. Anyways, the pictures look interesting, the last of Sakura holding this crazy knife is really frightening. Just wonder what she’s up to. And Saber definetly doesn’t look good. What the hell Sakura did? Or is this really Sakura?? Or is she controlled by this woman? Questions, questions, questions, as usual^^ Curious for the summary, but I’m sure to 95%, that it isn’t revealed, yet..
It’s good to see how the story is moving away from the game more and more. That’ll make everything more intersting :)
April 28, 2006 at 6:03 pmfa
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Please someone tells how many episodes there are for this series. Many thanks.
April 28, 2006 at 6:07 pm*Chi*
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Ahhh, just in time for tea, always fast with your summary Omni^^
Caster, dare you touch my Sakura-_-
It’s interesting to see a hero from the Greek mythology again. However it’s good in my opinion, I’ve read the whole Greek stories very often and the heros have some “touch” (what I mean is, that they have always interesting character). That’s really a good idea!
The last screen in the preview, is that Sakura? She’s looking like a elf.
April 28, 2006 at 6:19 pmandresh142
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wow, looks like an interesting episode, cant wait for the sub. Is saber using Caliburn?
April 28, 2006 at 6:23 pmctjanus
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Chi, the girl in the last preview pic is Caster as stated in the first page
unhooded Caster
by T_I April 28th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
April 28, 2006 at 6:48 pmMike
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God damn, I didn’t know Caster was a piece of art :D I might be falling in love, I always imagine that shes like the mature older sexy type women under those hood, boy was I surprise haha, but she look kind of like Sakura her face that is.
I think my favorite girl order has to change now.
Caster > Rider > Saber > Rin > Sakura > Ilya > Fuji-nee
April 28, 2006 at 6:48 pmscsw
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Saber’s using Excalibur. Caliburn was a sword that she lost that can never be reclaimed (except by Shirou’s Tracing/Reality Marble thingie).
April 28, 2006 at 6:53 pmscsw
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Sorry for the double post but — how on earth can Kuzuki fight that well? I mean… He defeated a Servant — and he’s not even a Magus. Remember what the guys at the church said, “Its hard for a servant to kill a servant… so they go after the master…” If he kicks ass like that, can’t he just finish the war himself?
April 28, 2006 at 6:59 pmT_I
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1) His body is reinforced by Caster’s sorcery
2) Saber always jobs without using her noble phantasm…. always…
April 28, 2006 at 7:00 pmtragicsmile
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The thing with Rule Breaker is that IIRC it breaks all sorts of magical bonds. Note that the contract between Master and Servant is one such bond…
April 28, 2006 at 7:10 pmAznSoulBoy
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LOLL the harem owner XDD, that was funny. Hmmm wow Shirou creates twin sword XD WOOT. WOahh I though Caster would be not very pretty but the last screenshot suprises me o.O. Rin is so cute. Anyway im going to watch HOCKEY XD Montreal vs Hurricane XDXD
April 28, 2006 at 7:12 pmGeneral Cox
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this episode looks mind blowing!!! Shirou half looks like archer with the double blades, and whats with him doing better than saber against Kuzuki??
looks like Rin to me in that second last screen cap…
April 28, 2006 at 7:17 pmDrayen
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Lol chi, japanese doesnt seem to be the best at other languages, i mean even their english is so so sometimes, but when i hear them speak french, it makes me want to tear my ears out (im from quebec), sometimes i dont even notice theyre speaking french, for exemple in maria-sama ga miteiru, i never noticed they said “petite soeur” , it really doesnt sound like french.
Tenshi na konamaiki’s got some horrid french as well.
anyways, about the episode, kuzuki seems to kick major ass, i mean he might have been strenghtened by caster, but he kicked a servant’s ass by himself, thats something ;p
April 28, 2006 at 7:18 pmDrayen
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Also i wonder whats going to happen with lancer?
April 28, 2006 at 7:22 pmT_I
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It’s worth noting that Kuzuki refers to himself as a “killer”
April 28, 2006 at 7:46 pmgammaoh
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——Lol chi, japanese doesnt seem to be the best at other languages, i mean even their english is so so sometimes, but when i hear them speak french, it makes me want to tear my ears out (im from quebec), sometimes i dont even notice theyre speaking french, for exemple in maria-sama ga miteiru, i never noticed they said “petite soeur” , it really doesnt sound like french.
Tenshi na konamaiki’s got some horrid french as well.
anyways, about the episode, kuzuki seems to kick major ass, i mean he might have been strenghtened by caster, but he kicked a servant’s ass by himself, thats something ;p——
Lol, true. I’m from France, and the French Japanese use is so crappy. I can bet the seiyuu are just reading some katakana they don’t even understand.
In Yakitate Japan, you get to hear “Excuse-moi” (excuse me) which I barely understood. I’m from Paris, though. I may be a little hard on that.
Otherwise, Kuzuki was more of a very well trained assassin than just some random killer.
April 28, 2006 at 7:49 pmXellos-_^
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Kuzuki is a train Assassin. he is/was a professional killer specializing in close quater combat and in this fight his phyical abilities been strengthing by Caster.
April 28, 2006 at 8:25 pmdward
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Hmm…..I thought Shirou will be able to image the weapon’s memory as well? I can see his fighting ability still kinda sucks. Correct me if I’m wrong….
April 28, 2006 at 8:28 pmXellos-_^
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I haven’t seent he raw yet but could be a case of Shirou just being over match by a superior fighter?
April 28, 2006 at 8:34 pmdward
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I wouldn’t worry too much about dark Saber though….I’m more worried about Saber becoming Rin’s servent. It took us about 16 episodes to finally get to see something between Saber and Shirou! I’m soooo going to hate it if they just follow the UBW scenerio. Rin may be a better master but I still feel Shirou’s character and personality suit Saber more…….
April 28, 2006 at 8:37 pmRasmiel
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I can’t believe all the harassing against Japanese accents taking place here…It’s not like you guys can pronounce Japanese like the way it should, so i don’t think you should be making fun of the voice actors. They try their best with sounding as true as possible. Unless you guys can take their place, don’t harass them over “incorrect” pronounciations of English and French (or any other language for that matter). Even I have trouble pronouncing English words because the mouth usage for Japanese and English words are way too different, let alone French and their “roll the tongue” policy.
Anyways that aside, it looks like Caster is gaining some new fans over her face. Yeah, she’s incredibly cute for an evil witch, but her real cuteness comes in play rather in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. I’d hold on to your pants if I were you ^_^b
April 28, 2006 at 8:41 pmXellos-_^
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With caster i rather let her hold on to it :D
April 28, 2006 at 8:44 pmctjanus
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Since we all know that Archer is Shirou. I didn’t see anyone mention a few episodes back on when Shirou wanted to learn swordsmanship from Saber that infact it was Saber who taugh Archer aka Shirou on how to use a sword. I was like whoa this is kinda cool, now we know where Archer got his sword training from!!!
April 28, 2006 at 8:53 pmdward
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Yeah, it makes sense but I believe Archer only get the basic sword training from Saber. Saber didn’t really taught Shirou everything I suppose. I remember Archer able to image not only the weapon itself, but its memories as well, which may include techniques on how to use those weapons. So its better to say Archer learned his fighting skills pretty much himself.
April 28, 2006 at 9:03 pmMriaow
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I am now utterly confused as to where the story is heading…
April 28, 2006 at 9:32 pmmootab
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hey, the dark saber is hotttt
and kicks ASS
but the so is the normal one
so im not bothered by it
April 28, 2006 at 9:41 pmAle
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Anyways that aside, it looks like Caster is gaining some new fans over her face. Yeah, she’s incredibly cute for an evil witch, but her real cuteness comes in play rather in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. I’d hold on to your pants if I were you ^_^b
Heh, yeah.
Wonder what will become of her in the anime
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April 28, 2006 at 9:55 pmAznSoulBoy
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I agreed with u Rasmiel =O
April 28, 2006 at 11:20 pmeurys
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Unless you guys can take their place, don’t harass them over “incorrect” pronounciations of English and French (or any other language for that matter).
Well, they are the one who wants to use another languages to sound smart so they should at least try to do it right. Archer’s seiyuu(sp?) proved us it’s possible. He was awesome. And I’m not a voice actor, it’s not my job…
Soo, Caster is really twisted. And Shirou, you copycat!
I really wonder where the story will go now.
April 29, 2006 at 12:15 amshia
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“Since we all know that Archer is Shirou. I didn’t see anyone mention a few episodes back on when Shirou wanted to learn swordsmanship from Saber that infact it was Saber who taugh Archer aka Shirou on how to use a sword. I was like whoa this is kinda cool, now we know where Archer got his sword training from!!!”
ummm… im really confused here. so shirou is archer??? how? y? omg can someone explain… T_T
April 29, 2006 at 12:16 amshia
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sorry for da double post — and how many eps is this going for?
April 29, 2006 at 12:37 amAznSoulBoy
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24
April 29, 2006 at 1:04 amDemon Eyes
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Shirou dies later on and it seems he is a great hero in the future so when he dies, his heroism isn’t fogotten by the Holy Grail. Thus he is put in the lottery draw of Servants.
Even if Saber taught Archer swordsmanship, Archer would kick her ass. She just sucker-slashed him in ep 2.
The cute girl in the preview is Sakura. Just increase the Blue concetration in the pic and you will see.
As personalities go, I think Saber is more suited with Rin not Shirou. And pairing-wise, Shirou is more suited with Sakura.
I wonder what it would be if Shirou had a vision of his future and summoned Archer?
Great stuff.
April 29, 2006 at 1:14 amctjanus
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ummm… im really confused here. so shirou is archer??? how? y? omg can someone explain… T_T
by shia April 29th, 2006 at 12:15 am
It pretty much displays that Archer is Shirou in Episode 14.. look at the very end of the episode.. there is a pendant left on the ground… now go back to episode 2 i think.. Shirou had that same exact pendant.
April 29, 2006 at 1:15 amOmni
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I’m pretty sure the young girl in the middle preview image is Rin. If you look at the hair and the eye color, they match Rin’s perfectly (brown and light blue, respectively).
April 29, 2006 at 2:02 ammilkywaylynx
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That girl is Sakura. The hair colour/eye colour is a long story…
April 29, 2006 at 2:20 amOmni
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That girl is Sakura. The hair colour/eye colour is a long story…
Oh I think I just realized why. Yea, you’re probably right…
April 29, 2006 at 3:05 amaspen
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Demon Eyes, that’s not quite right. Some big spoilers coming up Show Spoiler ▼
April 29, 2006 at 3:13 amT_I
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Saber is unlikely to win against Archer on fair terms.
actually let’s not go that far…
has Saber ever won something without a plot device? no
April 29, 2006 at 3:22 ambwoomp
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T_I, Keep in mind that Saber is weaker than she would normally be. Also, Show Spoiler ▼
April 29, 2006 at 4:52 am*Chi*
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Unless you guys can take their place, don’t harass them over “incorrect” pronounciations of English and French (or any other language for that matter).
Well, they are the one who wants to use another languages to sound smart so they should at least try to do it right. Archer’s seiyuu(sp?) proved us it’s possible. He was awesome. And I’m not a voice actor, it’s not my job…
Thats the way it is Rasmiel. Of course it’s difficult to speak German, French or whatever for the Japanese as well as Japanese for us Americans, Europeans etc.
But, the words Rin said in German are easy ones, and as eurys said, it’s not impossible for them to speak good in a foreign language. It’s also my own experience. I live in Düsseldorf, it’s the city with the highest population of Japanese people in whole Europe! And I have lots of Japanese friends. Their German as well as their English is allright.
So Rin’s voice actress has to train harder for this passages, because in such a high quality anime like Fate/stay night something like that sounds just disturbing.
April 29, 2006 at 5:21 amTidus
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i think the girl in the preview is “young” caster
April 29, 2006 at 5:31 amOtchi
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it’s seem souichirou is look like Takahata sensei in Negima
April 29, 2006 at 6:51 amRasmiel
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“Well, they are the one who wants to use another languages to sound smart so they should at least try to do it right. Archer’s seiyuu(sp?) proved us it’s possible. He was awesome. And I’m not a voice actor, it’s not my job…”
What do you mean they use another language to sound “smart”? They do it because it adds a bit of realism to the anime. And I think it’s extremely rude to presume that they don’t try to do it right. You are not a voice actor like you said yourself, so you don’t know what difficulties face them when trying to speak in different foreign language. Just because one voice actor is good at it, it doesn’t mean others are as well.
“But, the words Rin said in German are easy ones, and as eurys said, it’s not impossible for them to speak good in a foreign language. It’s also my own experience. I live in Düsseldorf, it’s the city with the highest population of Japanese people in whole Europe! And I have lots of Japanese friends. Their German as well as their English is allright.”
I never said it was impossible. But language skills take years to build up. It’s not something you can learn in course of a week, or even months. It’s not like movies where you have lots of time to practice a certain passage. What would you do if you get hired as a voice actor, and they expect you to speak bunch of Japanese words when you’ve lived in the West all your life? I think you guys need to look at it more from the perspective of the voice actors.
April 29, 2006 at 8:44 amkenjinx
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Not to belittle future Shirou’s accomplishments, but to become a legendary hero that is worshipped by masses of people in this day and age is easier said than done. Leave all comments about sports stars, rock stars, and movie stars at the door, you know what I mean.
It would be funny if they could summon Michael Jackson or Vanilla Ice.
April 29, 2006 at 8:46 amrandomlurker123
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gah .. saber’s chance to lose the lame shirou is ruin haha :P
if saber has that loli as master then her power will almost be 100% [ i never play the game , jus watch anime but % of servent's power compared to when they are alive = power of master rite ? ]
April 29, 2006 at 10:21 amkurotsuki
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wow , that’s a cool scenario i think..and it’s funny we all think Caster is the final boss…until Gilgamesh shows up and kill everyone :P
April 29, 2006 at 10:33 amdward
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Great news at last! Phew~Saber better not get herself stabbed by Rule Breaker again….made me worried whether her contract with Shirou will be nullified.
April 29, 2006 at 1:32 pmcyw1988
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hmm they are probably going down Fate’s storyline anyway… besides shirou already bedded saber and it is probably natural for them to have saber x shirou instead of any other girl x shirou. They will probably go one step ahead of the game and probably explain that rin and sakura are related as well as maybe shirou actually utilising the UBW…. Anyway the storyline will probably be fate all the way ^^
April 29, 2006 at 1:49 pmwontaek
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There is this debate over pronunciation and let me add bit of ‘salt’ to it. I was born in Korea, but spent sometime in USA when I was young, thus picking up some decent pronuciation and is able to discern regional dialects of English; I lived in Missouri which used to be a state that is on the border of several regional dialects in USA. Most americans here, in Indiana, don’t have any trouble understanding me first time we have any conversation. The interesting thing is, most Koreans here, who have seen me converse with native speakers, doesn’t or can’t believe my English is better than theirs, for my pronunciation does not follow what they imagine it to be the true, correct sound, since I did my high school and undergraduate studies in normal Korean schools and university; they believe I am one of them and is puzzled why I am not trying to sound good. In other word, general Korean public has this weird idea about how English sounds, with all sorts of improper accents and emphasis. I have heard that this problem is something Koreans have imported from Japan, thus believe that, unless they are living in foreign countries, Japanese themselves would have this convoluted idea about good foreign language pronunciation. It has gotten to the point, where some of my friends with contacts to TV producers, whose pronunciation is indistinguishable from native English speakers, are actually rejected from supporting roles as someone from USA for not sounding ‘authentic’ enough, or is told to Koreanize the pronunciation in order to sound more ‘credible’. Knowing these facts, I hunch a guess, a wild one I admit, that it is possible that many voice actors can do the correct pronunciation, or is trained on correct pronunciation, and had to Japanize them for the actual show to make them sound ‘fancy’ to Japanese.
April 29, 2006 at 3:38 pm*Chi*
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Hmm, that’s really an interesting point wontaek.
As I said, I know many Japanese people, and I also had a guest yesterday. He learned German at school in Japan, and even he told me, that the German of Rin sounds a bit crap. So I think, in THIS case, it’s really a bit bad. However this point with making things “fancy”, I’ll ask around^^
April 29, 2006 at 4:29 pmnanashi
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http://www3.plala.or.jp/takayuki/fate/fate.html
I think Rin’s German IS supposed to be crap.
April 29, 2006 at 6:15 pmKAZUKY
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wow!! a great episode!! but man they scared me when sakura(controlled by caster) stabbed saber on her chest with the “rule breaker” i really tought it was the end of saberXshirou…..hahaha
but i’m really glad their making a new plot….maybe a mixt of UBW and fate.. yet having such a great series done in 24ep it’s really a waste maybe 26 would be better no?
April 29, 2006 at 6:24 pmKAZUKY
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LOL!! sorry for the double post but i forgot to ask how many command spells did shirou use till now??
if u notice in ep 4 when he took berserker’s blow instead of saber the mark on his hand has a different shape than the one in ep 16!!! how come??
and in fate’s story line (the game) does shirou show special feelings towards saber or not??
oufff…that’s all as for questions hihihihi
April 29, 2006 at 6:43 pmSyaoran Li
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What do we have here?
Fate Stay Night
Unlimited Blade Works
& Heavens Field all in one? Terrific!
So, Saber is unable to use Excalibur anymore, damn it!
I want to see Shirou using UBW to defeat someone here, maybe no Assassin or Caster, but someone else.
Damn it! Damn it! Damn it!
Fate/Stay Night is becoming more and more mysterious
April 29, 2006 at 7:02 pmMentar
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The problem with the German isn’t just that Kana Ueda has no German skills (and thus difficulties with the proper pronunciation) – neither does the writer of F/sn. It’s my unpleasant duty to translate the German in F/sn for Eclipse, and even as a native speaker it’s next to impossible to come up with proper wordings, because the “German” in the game or anime makes no sense to begin with. It’s like having someone clip words of a language into Babelfish, using this result to feed it into yet another iteration of Babelfish, and THEN puke them out. The result are (mostly) German words which have no coherence whatsoever.
As long as there are game scripts to use, it’s tolerable. But if not… hell. Bloody hell.
April 30, 2006 at 12:40 ameurys
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Interesting. That’s what I thought. They use foreign languages because it sounds cool to them. But they butcher the sense and the pronounciation of those languages at the same time.
Now, I’m not saying we should complain and make a petition against it, it was just a remark. At the end, I don’t really care, and it certainly can be cool (Archer!).
April 30, 2006 at 2:25 amRaVeN
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Sure the language can be picked up when you lived in said country for a while, but reading a language on say said language other then theirs, its very hard for a voice actor when they never had spoken or learned of the said language before. Well there is also research, but thats also depends on the actor.
There is also the thing of pronunciation, and its always hard to read when you dont know the pronunciation of said word. Lets say for example can you read Mandarin if its written in your language, you can take a stab at it, but you dont know if its right or not if you dont know what the pronunciation is like for the word.
Some languages can also be similar in terms of pronunciation than you think. For example Italian, Spanish and Portuguese, similar in pronunciation only with some slight differences.
One that I found very surprising is that Japanese and spanish are almost excatly the same when it comes to pronunciation (if japanese is romanized). To make it short (this the most I written in a while and its boring me, hehe) I’ve spoken japanese to someone who is japanese and thought my pronunciation was excelent, same goes for the other way around, when I heard spanish being spoken perfectly in the anime Sol Bianca and yes it was a japanese voice actor. There is also other anime with some spanish out there also.
Anyway all in all, nobody is perfect and practice makes sense.
Anyway back on topic: I can’t choose what I want to see, Dark saber or lovey dovey shirou and saber.
April 30, 2006 at 4:22 amMachi
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April 30, 2006 at 5:38 amMike
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Nooooooooooooooooo, Caster and Rider need to join the Harem they can’t hit the bucket that quick. Can they all stop fight and get along. :D
April 30, 2006 at 7:27 am*Chi*
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Ara ara, you guys with your harem fantasy ;)
April 30, 2006 at 7:45 amBlanc
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yes yes I agree.
April 30, 2006 at 10:49 amSyaoran Li
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Why have the right to dream jejeje
Seven more episodes of Fate/Stay Night and a lot of questions:
-Is Shirou going to use UBW?
-If Saber can’t use Excalibur, witch what weapon is she going to fight? (Another improvement of Shirou technique to create weapons)
-How would be the sacrifice for the Holy Grial?
And the most important question of all:
What is going to happen in the last scene of anime?
Seven more weeks to know that ^_^
I want to see Shirou and his UWB
April 30, 2006 at 11:47 amscsw
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Anyways, all the above is crap.
everyone will just make peace and join Shirou’s harem. caster will somehow revive rider so that she can join in the fun.
April 30, 2006 at 12:59 pmPenguin
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Does anyone know of a site where we can get the summary of the 5 endings in the original game? Thanks!
April 30, 2006 at 1:30 pmSyaoran Li
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Oenguin, here you go:
geocities.com/max3075/top.htm
The 3 scenarios, the 5 endings, I think you this place, but anyway, give it a shot.
scsw, I don’t like that, but could it be possible. Damn it!
OK
April 30, 2006 at 10:03 pmiamandragon
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[quote=Rasmiel]I can’t believe all the harassing against Japanese accents taking place here…It’s not like you guys can pronounce Japanese like the way it should, so i don’t think you should be making fun of the voice actors. They try their best with sounding as true as possible. Unless you guys can take their place, don’t harass them over “incorrect” pronounciations of English and French (or any other language for that matter). Even I have trouble pronouncing English words because the mouth usage for Japanese and English words are way too different, let alone French and their “roll the tongue” policy.[/quote]
lol it’s just…bad…I myself can speak Japanese with the right pronouncation(I’m from China, so it’s easier for me…) so I have the right to critize them.(muhahaha)
Japanese students usually don’t learn foriegn languages till university/high school, so it’s natural their foriegn language is THAT crap
Everytime I hear the Japanese speak English I just shiver…why can’t they stick with their own mother tongue? Where’re their pride of their own language? ありがとう(aligado, japanese for thanks) sounds so much better whan they say ‘Sankill’(thank you)…STOP SPEAKING ENGLISH IF YOU CAN’T! grrrrrrrrr…
May 1, 2006 at 12:45 amSyaoran Li
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Ladies and gentlemen, I have a question in mind
If you know about the game, you well know about how a hero is summoned and what about he or she whereabouts betweens Holy Wars. So, did King Arthur and Shirou cross paths over there? (That place where they wait to be summoned). Oh well, before this war, maybe they knew each other as heroic spirits, nothing more and nothing else. This was something that came to my mind after seeing Saber lost Excalibur thanks to Ruler Breaker.
And now what! I have a few guesses, but nothing more than that. Since we don’t want too many spoilers over here, I only said this:
I WANT A FREAKING AMAZING FINAL
Let’s go Saber & Shirou, gave us a better final than Tsukihime.
May 1, 2006 at 5:33 amshia
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yea. really hope da ending is good
May 1, 2006 at 7:24 amT_I
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Archer knows Saber from his memories as Shirou, if that’s what you’re trying to ask.
In fact, that’s the only reason he got sucker punched in the beginning.
in between wars heroic spirits are well…. drifiting away in the history of mankind.
You see, what they are doing is essentially giving legends flesh and blood, and once they die again all that remains is their legend. They’re not exactly re-animating the dead, you see…
May 1, 2006 at 8:50 amTS
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I am confused, why is the middle picture of preview sakura and not rin?
May 1, 2006 at 11:03 amidiot who is probabley very wrong
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its probabley younger sakura…seeing as in the fate/er w/e story sakura and rin are related but cause only one sibling(older one) gets to learn magic sakura got adopted by the matous cause shinji is a loser(hahahha)
May 1, 2006 at 11:06 amidiot who is probabley very wrong
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- one more thing saber probabley gets shirou to use her third noble phantasm to get avalon and then get caliburn to go pwn caster and assasain….or to keep the story going throw true assasain in there along with gilgamesh(OMG air vs caliburn???) man if gilgamesh gets into this story sabers gonna have a run for her money….
May 1, 2006 at 11:23 amsilverfish
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i agree with er whoever said it but caster is probabley gonna die….not just cause shes evil but cause honestly shes frigin weak as hell with out w/e his name is…..that and there are several other evil people to get into the story so her EVIL MUHAHAHA bit cant be more than 2 eps (mabye even shorter)
just to tell some ppl
saber:arturia(king arthur)
Noble Phantasms:
invisable air(from many eps ago)
avalon(the sheath)
Excaliber(u all no this one)
Archer:shirou
Noble Phantasms:
UBW(Reality marble) doesnt really count tho
his to swords(i think)
Archer:Gilgamesh
Noble Phantasms:
Enuma Elish
Gate of babylon(his treasure place)
Enkidu
Besurker:heracles(hercules)
Noble Phantasms:
God Hand
dont know if he got another one
Rider:Medusa
Noble Phantasms:
Blood Fort Andromeda
Breaker Gorgon(Her eyes)
Bellerophon(Pegasus)
Caster:Medea
Noble Phantasms:
Rule Breaker
Lancer:Cu Culainn
Noble Phantasms:
Gae blog(to different things for it)
Assasain:Sasaki Kojirou
Noble Phantasms:
doesnt really have any???
True Assasain:Hassen Sabbah??
Noble Phantasms:
cant remember……..
Avenger:Angra Manyu
Noble Phantasms:
Verta Asta er or something like that
(it does the same damage back to the person who attacked him)
and i think thats it lol
May 1, 2006 at 4:00 pmSyaoran Li
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But now Saber can’t use Excalibur thanks to Caster, soo…
Jejeje I think you said a lot of spoilers my friend, not to me, to others instead
May 5, 2006 at 2:37 pmmango
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i dont know why, but i suspect sakura x shirou in episode 18