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Episode 08:

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「信奈上洛」 (Nobuna Jouraku)
“Nobuna Advances on the Capital”

Up until now, Nobuna’s problems have been fairly controlled without much of any real threat. History has kept itself in course, letting Saru use his historical knoweldge as leverage. However, now that Nobuna has begun her ‘Tenka Fubu‘ stage, beginning with Gifu, those who are knowledgeable about the Sengoku era will see how warped history has become. Even Saru himself acknoweldges his weakened position thanks to disparities with the current world. Although I will expand on the differences more in-depth in the historical notes section (which will be the most extensive thus far when complete), there are some key issues that I shall address here.

First off: the Miyoshi Three never existed (as an alliance) and only serves to spice up the story. The historical opponents to the Oda’s path to Kyoto were the Rokkaku (who were quickly defeated) and the Miyoshi and Matsunaga clans, who had overthrown the Ashikaga Shogunate and placed a figurehead, two year old Ashikaga Yoshihide, as shogun. The Asakura were not in a position during the time to interfere with Kyoto politics, as shown by their refusal and inability to help out the true successor to the Shogunate, Ashikaga Yoshiaki. Yoshiaki requested the Oda to help him retake his rightful spot as Shogun (which contrasts to the Oda of this timeline who use Imagawa as their figurehead). Of course, Nobunaga used this as his excuse to march onto Kyoto. Thus, the suggestion of Mitsuhide to make Imagawa the Shogun is also a plot point made for the sake of drama.

Secondly, Empress Himiko doesn’t exist either, nor did the historical emperor have any influence to help the Oda at this point. It would not be until the Oda retook Kyoto would a benenficial relationship occur between the Oda and the Emperor. Saru recognizes this anomaly in the timestream, hence he does not know that the convenient loli character is actually emperor. However, the role that Himiko will play in this timeline, even during episode 8, is still to be seen. Although I feel that she will become a convenient solution to subduing the resistance in Kyoto, I have hopes that her story and involvement become more complex than expected.

The same hopes could be applied to the many, MANY other characters introduced in this episode. If you look at their historical context, most of these characters actually supported Nobunaga instead of antagonizing him (prime example being Hisahide). This twist of allies becoming enemies surely will knock Saru off-balance, but how off-balance is yet to be seen. Danjyou looks to be the most unpredictable of the bunch, which is supported both by her character and her historical basis (for those of you who have played Fall of the Samurai as the Tsu, you should recognize the mon easily). The probability that she could potentially switch sides is high, but the motives that’ll lead that betrayal–that’s what I want to see. An exception to this curiosity though would probably be the return of Yoshitatsu…whose ability to hide his identity (or the inability of anyone recognizing him) is…amazing? It’s a bit silly that Katsuie is unable to recognize Yoshitatsu, given that his facial structure is so…recognizable.

In conclusion, the episode was jam-packed with development, setting up much potential for interesting conflicts. However, it seems not all the setup is complete, as seen in the next episode…

Due to the immense research this episode calls for, historical notes will be added later. I will be sure to include the notes both here and in episode 9 when completed.

Full-length images: 2, 9, 10, 11, 12, 16, 18, 20, 22, 23, 31, 32, 34, 35.

 

Preview

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End Card

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Episode 08:

Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   01 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   02 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   03
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   04 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   05 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   06
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   07 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   08 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   09
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   10 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   11 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   12
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   13 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   14 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   15
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   16 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   17 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   18
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   19 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   20 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   21
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   22 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   23 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   24
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   25 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   26 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   27
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   28 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   29 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   30
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   31 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   32 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   33
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   34 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   35 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   36
Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   37 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   38 Oda Nobuna no Yabou   08   39

「黄金の自由都市・堺」 (Ougon no Jiyuu Toshi Sakai)
“Golden Free City, Sakai”

Initially, this episode comes off as a filler. The takoyaki stands and the actions of the various merchants this episode have little historical basis other than the existence of their characters. The acceptance of the shogun through payment of koku to the court also has little basis in history. However, although Mitsuhide’s jealousy is developing in a manner that may be consistent with history. Mitsuhide didn’t actually compete via takoyaki (or visit Sakai at this time), but the historical basis of Mitsuhide’s character, a development many Sengoku fans are interested in seeing how her character will pan out. Her jealousy with Saru has been growing at a steady rate since her introduction, but now this ultimate disappointment with Nobuna may tip the scales in her mind. I won’t spoil anything for those unacquainted with the era, but the next few episodes are going to be some of the most fascinating and exciting episodes thus far. I would say more, and I WANT to say more, but for the sake of avoiding spoilers, I leave the discussion for the comments (with spoiler tags of course). What do you think Mitsuhide’s role in the next few episodes will be? Is Honnou-ji coming early, or is this something entirely different? The answer is so exciting to me…I can’t wait till Sunday to post!

There is one side note I would like to address though. When Soukyuu Imai heard of Saru’s position as a time traveler, his eyes were raised in a potential foreshadowing. Do you guys think that this is a foreshadow of Imai taking Saru’s side and accepting the takoyaki agreement, or is there something else we have yet to see? It could be a possible overanalysis, but it was a scene that stood out to me upon rewatching.

This section will not have extensive Historical Notes due to the lack of any actual historical events that occurred here. However, Soukyuu Imai, Soukyuu Tsuda, and the Egoushuu’s equivalent did exist during this time. Both actually gained the favor of Nobuna rather than antagonize or negotiate with him. It was through their knowledge of the tea ceremony that brought them to the lord’s good side.

Full-length images: 1, 3, 7, 11, 12, 17, 24, 25.

 

Preview

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August 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm
16 comments »
  • August 29, 2012 at 6:04 pmrinsako

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    It does seem that the anime is deviating a bit from the LN. But it probably won’t fully deviate.

  • August 29, 2012 at 6:21 pmBakaro

    I’m so disappointed with you, Mitsuhide.

  • August 29, 2012 at 10:21 pmTingster013

    They always do this. One made a mistake and she/he obviously dun noe and nobody tell her/him.. Leaving them to guess and they will obviously guess wrong, but this always make things more interesting…

  • August 30, 2012 at 3:57 amryuuzaki

    NNNOOOOO! juubei-chan! well, her ideas are quite outrageous after all, like burn the whole town just to get money, but i dont like how they brush her off. they can just tell her what she had done wrong to avoid more problems. juubei might do something stupid after this. i hate the new villains, a playboy, manipulative merchant, hairless monk(lol) and a woman with a ridiculous dress riding an elephant.

    i love how nobuna trolled saru by sending nene. and those hot images of the girls grrrr!

    • August 30, 2012 at 12:02 pmMrTerrorist

      Jubei idea of burning the town isn’t really outrageous, it’s a common thing for samurais who try to win by any means necessary.(Also merchants were disliked by the Samurais at the time) Jubei embraces the old ways of “deal with the problem in anyway, worry no what happens latter” while Nobuna philosophy “think about the future and it’s consequences, then act accordingly.”

  • August 30, 2012 at 5:05 amSerapita

    Nagahide is doing less and less scorekeeping each episodes. :/

    On to the story, I think we won’t be seeing early Honnou-ji, it won’t do good to the story as a whole since that incident should serve as the climax of story unless they’re going for anime original ending (or not? I don’t read the novel version) and don’t plan on doing another season.

  • August 30, 2012 at 7:29 amVaahto

    I love your historical notes. Glad to hear that you’ll be adding them after episode 9.

  • August 30, 2012 at 10:26 amKinny Riddle

    Saru calls himself a time-traveller, yet he ought to have seen it coming that Juubei-chan (Mitsuhide) will sooner or later betray Nobuna (the real Mitsuhide’s motives for betrayal were never known, thus the source of intense speculation by historians) if history follows its course and ought to take measures to make sure she doesn’t if he really has Nobuna’s best interests at heart.

    Or was he thinking that since many butterflies have occurred to the timeline since his arrival, he also believed that Juubei wouldn’t betray Nobuna?

    Either that or he’s probably way too indulged in his Sengoku harem to pay due attention. lol
    (I mean, who could resist a cute face like that? http://randomc.net/image/Oda%20Nobuna%20no%20Yabou/Oda%20Nobuna%20no%20Yabou%20-%2007%20-%20Large%20Preview%2002.jpg )

    • September 2, 2012 at 12:51 amMagus

      It’s still a while before Honnou-ji would happen, and Saru is probably keeping the betrayal thing secret because he wants to figure out a way to prevent it that won’t result in Nobuna killing Mitsuhide instead.

  • August 30, 2012 at 10:42 amKinny Riddle

    Any Sengoku show with Date Masamune (Bontenmaru) in it becomes pure win, even though in reality, Masamune was only one years old when Nobunaga made his march to Kyoto.
    http://randomc.net/image/Oda%20Nobuna%20no%20Yabou/Oda%20Nobuna%20no%20Yabou%20-%2007%20-%20Large%2035.jpg

    Bontenmaru even comes with epic BGM when introducing herself.

    • August 30, 2012 at 4:27 pmKyon12

      Your right but when she says her name…….that epic BGM is gone and that epic effect is good >.> I specially liked that part of the ep :D

  • August 30, 2012 at 9:01 pmporon

    seemed to follow eiji yoshikawa’s taiko more/less. if no one likes juubei i gladly accept her. she is really need to be pitied because no one give her merit.
    if not for her stupidity, tsuda soukyuu will get monopoly on mayonaise and tako , he even suffered monetary loss because he bribes. and the recipe contain expensive ingredient which led the product unmarketable due innefficiency.
    the true winner from merchant’s view still imai soukyuu who get monopoly on mayonaise and tako. with time , he’ll recoup

  • August 30, 2012 at 9:29 pmBeckett

    I’m not a historian but I’m pretty sure there were no elephants in Japan.

    • August 31, 2012 at 2:20 amMocha

      imported from farie land magic lady

    • September 2, 2012 at 12:56 amMagus

      I’m pretty sure there weren’t any butterfly-witches either. Or summon magic-wielding lolis. For that matter, takoyaki didn’t exist until the 1930s. They’ve made no pretense that the gender-swapping is the only difference from real-life history in this series.

  • August 30, 2012 at 11:04 pmOtaku Dump

    Despite all that, I still love Mitsuhide-chan.