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「選択肢は2つ・・・?」 (Sentakushi wa 2tsu?)
“There Are Two Options…?”

The battle against Saber heats up as the mahou shoujo are completely overwhelmed, and the other mahou shoujo step up and take the stage.

Illya Is Not A Warrior

Though I hate to say it, Illya was acting a bit stupid this week. First she tried to help Rin and Luvia despite the fact that the enemy that owned them was still standing right there, and then she called attention to herself by yelling out to Miyu when she was supposed to be sneaking around. Here’s the thing, though – Illya is not a warrior. She’s a little girl! She’s been doing well so far, but compared to an overpowered enemy that just completely bitch-slapped her mentor, I don’t blame her for getting scared. It’s more impressive than anything that Miyu managed to keep her head together during the whole thing. This Saber is scary!

Kaleid Liner Prisma Rin & Luvia!

When in doubt, take a third option! (trope) It was definitely smart to hand things over to the experts, and Rin and Luvia proved just how powerful they are. The action really speaks for itself, though I will say how much I enjoyed seeing Rin go sword-for-sword with the King of Knights(‘ card) and come out taking only a little damage. She even got in a point-blank blast of her own! (And gave Illya déjà vu, heh) Now we’ll get to see what happens when experienced mahou shoujo really let loos–wait, a cliffhanger!? Gah!

Pacing – Combat & Dialogue

The funny thing about this episode was that it may have had the worst pacing of the series so far. It wasn’t bad, it just dragged a bit at times, especially early on. This covered almost two chapters of the manga, which was perfect for last week, so what happened? Well, other than the fact that they left out part of one of the chapters (don’t worry, it’s still coming), I think it has to do with the inherent differences in pacing between dialogue and action in manga and anime.

This all comes down to the restraints the two media labor under; for manga, it’s space, while for anime, it’s time. Take dialogue – it can take an anime adaptation up to a minute or more to go through the dialogue that a manga chapter can fit into a frame or two. It’s easy to go through a lot of dialogue in manga, so when a dialogue-heavy chapter is adapted into an anime – like episode 01 – it works well. On the other hand, anime can go through action a lot more quickly than manga can. Action that takes a manga multiple frames to show can be chewed through in seconds in an anime. That’s where the pacing got a little off this episode, and also why they kept talking during the fight so much – they needed to use up the extra time that their medium afforded them. Not that the talking during battle wasn’t badass sometimes.

Personally, I would have preferred it if Silver Link tried to throw in a couple of anime original jokes or moves to keep things snappy, but I realize I’m probably in the minority in that opinion. Like I said, the pacing wasn’t bad! It just wasn’t quite as good as it has been before.

Looking Ahead – Illya Rises

I will say nothing about what is coming ahead, for the preview is tantalizing enough. Let’s just say that next week is going to be fun.

tl;dr: @StiltsOutLoud – The new mahou shoujo are out & the old are in (temporarily). Now, will Rin & Luvia be able to seal the deal? #prismaillya

Random thoughts:

  • Minor gripe: If Miyu was trying to draw Saber away, why did she attack from the sky? Saber is a melee fighter, she can’t fly! (Or even if she could, there’s no reason for them to expect as much.) Better to attack from the ground and give Saber a reason to try to charge Miyu – and move away from Rin and Luvia.
  • Special Attack: Ruby Dual Chop! Truly, Ruby and Sapphire are the only ones who always keep their cool.
  • Mahou shoujo should be lolis, but nekomimi mahou shoujo Rin & Luvia are fine too.
  • They did it! They got Kawasumi Ayako to yell like a murderous beast too, haha! Nothing better than seeing all her talent perverted like this. Erh…that didn’t come out right.

For more from yours truly, check out my blog on writing, art, and the book I’m working on at stiltsoutloud.com.

Full-length images: 06, 08, 18, 19.

 

Preview

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End Card

Fate kaleid liner Prisma Illya   05   End Card
August 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm
53 comments »
  • August 9, 2013 at 6:13 pmMasterDragonKnight

    The reason the pacing was kind of off this time was for consideration of the next episode.

    For the next episode, the battle will reach its climax, and it only spanned for one chapter of the manga. It would be very difficult for them to extend that one chapter for the duration of the whole episode, so they are saving a bit of this to make up for it. But in exchange, this episode felt a bit weaker, instead of ending on the proper cliffhanger.

    There is really not much they can do if they want to stick only to the source material, and I believe they are already doing the best they can. So for that, I will applaud their effort.

    • August 10, 2013 at 12:46 amStilts

      True, and the cliffhanger they ended on was good. Honestly, if I hadn’t checked the source because I couldn’t remember how many chapters of material they went through, I wouldn’t even have remembered.

  • August 9, 2013 at 6:17 pmThe Green One

    Yes indeed, the upcoming episode will be epic. I look forward to it, and you all should too.

  • August 9, 2013 at 6:29 pmRadiosonde

    Gaaaah! It’s hard to choose between nekomimi Luvia and Rin and Mahou shoujo Miyu and Illya!
    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2005%20-%20Large%2018.jpg
    Behold , the pose of badassery.

  • August 9, 2013 at 7:40 pmDarsi

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2005%20-%20Large%2019.jpg
    Hnnnng! Nekomimi mahou shoujo Luvia with Fate/Extra Caster’s fox ears! If only Luvia was wearing F/E Caster’s armor as well……F/E CCC version is fine too!

  • August 9, 2013 at 7:46 pmewok40k

  • August 9, 2013 at 8:09 pmTechim

    I lol’ed at the End Card.
    I think I read it somewhere as:

    Saber: Even if you defeat me, there will be a 2nd & 3rd Saber to take my place.
    Miyu: Just go back…
    Ilya:..to CAMELOT!!!

    • August 9, 2013 at 10:42 pmKF

      The Sabers will never end!

      TQ

    • August 10, 2013 at 12:47 amStilts

      Unlimited Saber Wor–I’m sorry I’m sorry, couldn’t resist!

    • August 10, 2013 at 3:42 amecho

      I’m curious what Saber is that at the rightmost

      • August 10, 2013 at 4:03 amTechim

        Same here. Can recognize all but the rightmost..

        For those who aren’t sure: (left to right)
        Saber Alter, Regular Saber, Saber Lily, Saber Lion, ?

      • August 10, 2013 at 4:21 amKarutaku

        Not Saber at all I think. It’s Mysterious Heroine X from Type Moon’s April Fools page

      • August 10, 2013 at 10:21 amStilts

        I assumed they were just making up Sabers at that point. Wouldn’t be the first time.

    • August 10, 2013 at 6:46 amShadow74

      That reminds me as I would like to see Red Saber (Nero Claudius) or Saber(Gawain) in anime. Red Saber appeared little in Carnival Phantasm, but I want to see her in a serious story. It would be fun to see the servants of Fate / Extra at some spinoff that could use them.

      • August 11, 2013 at 1:45 amTechim

        Ironic for me how moments after Stilts mentioned Sabers being made up & you wanting to see Red Saber, I come across a new one in my facebook news feed. (I’m subscribed to an anime page)

        New servant appears in Koha Ace… Sakura Saber! (Cherry Blossom Saber)!”
        - The girl on the left says “In the end, it’s Saber again!? I’m gonna beat you up Takeuchi!” (Takeuchi is the Artist of Fate / Series).
        - Comptiq – September 2013
        http://bit.ly/163Z6HY

      • August 11, 2013 at 12:26 pmStilts

        Nyahaha, I knew it!

      • August 11, 2013 at 5:19 pmDorian

        Meant this as a comment reply to Techim. Oh well.

        Anyways, decided to check up on Sakura Saber and it looks like she’s not a costume for Blue Saber or Red Saber, but is in fact an entirely different character. If Blue is Arturia, Red is who she is… Sakura would probably be Bishamonten – Uesugi Kenshin.

        I do find it amusing that Akiha (the girl on the left) complaining and Kohaku’s laughing about it (girl on the right of the picture).

  • August 9, 2013 at 8:36 pmWanderer

    This all comes down to the restraints the two media labor under; for manga, it’s space, while for anime, it’s time. Take dialogue – it can take an anime adaptation up to a minute or more to go through the dialogue that a manga chapter can fit into a frame or two. It’s easy to go through a lot of dialogue in manga, so when a dialogue-heavy chapter is adapted into an anime – like episode 01 – it works well. On the other hand, anime can go through action a lot more quickly than manga can. Action that takes a manga multiple frames to show can be chewed through in seconds in an anime.

    I am reminded of the “lesson” in the very first episode of the first season of Seitokai no Ichizon: “Understand the differences between forms of media.”

    If they’re actually trying to make the events that follow this and the conclusion of the battle take up the entire next episode… I’m still not sure it’s going to work without feeling like it’s dragging. Without mentioning any story details, it has the same issue with different media that you mentioned for this episode, Stilts: a fair amount of action that takes up space in a manga, but which would likely play out fairly quickly when animated. Unless they screw it up badly, some of it will be some pretty freaking awesome action indeed, but I don’t see how they can make it last a whole episode.

    Putting ALL that aside, this was still pretty nice to watch. The battles, the magic, the girls, Illya freezing the way a ten-year-old girl WOULD when confronted by a murderous invincible warrior spirit, etc. On a whole I approve of the episode.

    • August 10, 2013 at 12:49 amStilts

      Agreed. There are always pitfalls when you’re adapting material meant for one medium into another, but they’re still doing a great job. I approve.

  • August 10, 2013 at 12:58 amK

    Every time I watch this show I keep expecting someone to get brutally mutilated or killed… damn Gen Urobuchi

    • August 10, 2013 at 1:59 amCybersteel

      What does Urobutcher has anything to do with this o.O?

      • August 10, 2013 at 2:29 amc2710

        The after effects of Fate-Zero is still with k

  • August 10, 2013 at 2:29 amc2710

    Seems that Avalon is doing its job right and I was TRULY HOPING for dark saber to shout EXCALIBUR!

    Anyway, Archer???

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2005%20-%20Large%20Preview%2002.jpg

  • August 10, 2013 at 2:32 amechykr

    Must be the easiest job Kawasumi Ayako has ever done for the Saber role, as all she needed to do was grunt like a mindless beast and she’s still entitled to her episodic commission. LOL (Voice actors in Japan are paid per episode, regardless of screentime. )

    • August 10, 2013 at 10:18 amStilts

      Worth it. Worth every yen.

    • August 11, 2013 at 1:53 pmmac65

      per episode.

      Man, what a difference compared to the U.S!

  • August 10, 2013 at 2:38 amflap

    Every time I watch the scene of Rin (as Kaleido Ruby) smacking Ruby on the ground I crack up. The sound, timing, and animation of that scene are perfect :D

  • August 10, 2013 at 2:38 amAnonymous

    Where’s Free episode 5?

  • August 10, 2013 at 3:37 amJhacks

    Have played some of the fate fighting games and my god D.Saber moveset is really damn slow and even in this anime, she walks like she’s freaking terminator. And don’t tell me thats Ilya on that badass archer costume, what? will she do an Unlimited Moe Works or something, Welp can’t wait to see that one.

  • August 10, 2013 at 8:57 amGermanguy

    I am curious, if we get some “Saber” extra time. Because of her popular in the Past Fate Animes… But Archer is here cut short… I am very curious

    • August 10, 2013 at 10:19 amStilts

      All in good time, my friend, all in good time.

      • August 10, 2013 at 12:49 pmGermanguy

        I know, just to pack the tense…

        I know hows back we are seeing in the Preview… I just wonder how this came around…

  • August 10, 2013 at 12:44 pme

    • August 10, 2013 at 12:46 pmechykr

      Apologies for hitting the Enter button by mistake before I even completed my post. That was me.

      Anyway, as seen in the shot I’ve linked:

      Overaged mahou shoujo – No wonder Ruby and Sapphire couldn’t stand them and opted for “younger” masters. XD

      • August 10, 2013 at 2:12 pmWanderer

        Who are you calling overaged? They’re still in their mid-teens. You’re just begging for a mana-bullet to the face with that one. :p

      • August 10, 2013 at 3:58 pmStilts

        High school girls are considered old now? What is this world coming to o.O

      • August 10, 2013 at 5:48 pmGiorno Giovanna

  • August 10, 2013 at 4:55 pmrandom viewer

  • August 11, 2013 at 3:44 amleatherhead333

    Can’t Rin and Luvia stop arguing even in a life or death situation??!!! o_O

  • August 11, 2013 at 3:47 amVoyager

    Mahou shoujo should be lolis, but nekomimi mahou shoujo Rin & Luvia are fine too.

    Well played sir, that old meme was even related to type-moon (for the ones that don’t get it: here)

  • August 11, 2013 at 6:49 amgawrshness

    Despite not having read the source material I think I can guess what happens next; after all we knew that the true power of ‘that’ archer wasn’t a weapon.

  • August 11, 2013 at 11:08 amDeloras

    what annoys me Mr. Stilts about this dark and edgy mahou shojo trend nowadays isn’t the dark tone of the story but the fact everyone keeps trying to say the main rivals who just happen to be girls are a couple when they are obviously not. I mean when did having a boy x girl couple in a magical girl show become wrong? Mind you I have nothing against yaoi or yuri

    • August 11, 2013 at 12:28 pmStilts

      I wouldn’t quite pigeonhole this is “dark and edgy mahou shoujo”, because while it is mahou shoujo and it does have some dark edges, it’s not…well, you’ll see.

      Regardless, I have no control over the fandom, so I suggest you ignore them. Or spend time here? There hasn’t been much Illya x Miyu shipping here. Probably because they really do just seem like fledgling friends in this one.

  • August 11, 2013 at 1:49 pmDeloras

    *whew* that ‘s a relief Mr.Stilts I just want someone to make a magical girl show with a boy rival again. it would do well to counterbalance the girl rival trend lately thank you for the feedback

  • August 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm†Croos†

    YOU GUYS BETTER WATCH THE NEXT EPIC EPISODE(ep6) OF PRISM ILLYA
    Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 12, 2013 at 12:01 amGinobi666

    I am the bone of my sword…..

  • August 12, 2013 at 12:56 amstarlog-akemi

    Oh god, episode 6.
    HEAVY SPOILERS
    Show Spoiler ▼

    • August 12, 2013 at 7:01 amGermanguy

      Okay, thank you for spoiling us with Ep 6…

      (This is a nice hint, to add Spoiler tags)

    • August 12, 2013 at 6:22 pmWanderer

      Stilts, could you or one of the other bloggers come in here and spoiler tag Starlog’s post before too many people who aren’t watching ahead read it?

    • August 12, 2013 at 8:05 pmStilts

      Added. Please don’t be rude, starlog.

  • August 13, 2013 at 4:48 pmUngas123

    Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 16, 2013 at 12:01 pmGermanguy

    I just saw Episode 06

    I just say this…

    *clap clap clap clap* Awesome, thank you

    • August 16, 2013 at 12:06 pmGermanguy

      Until now, i was thinking of Moe, Loli Magic Girl thing Anime… But this Episode teach me better..

      You Guys suprised me, in the good way. More, i want more