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「トロイメライ」 (Toroimerai)
“Dream”

I learned two major things from this episode. One — Sieg is denser than a 2×4. Two — Jack the Ripper uses a Reality Marble and I really love how thematic it is.

General Impressions

If I were to break down my impressions of this episode, I’d break it down into two parts. The first being the slurry of exposition we were given during the first half and then the up and down and then up again reaction to the “fight” inside of Trifas.

Starting with the former, I’m not sure that we really need all this exposition at this point in the story. Besides the fact that the show is really trying to develop Sieg and Ruler’s relationship with one another, I don’t think we really learned all that much for Team Red. Which is actually kind of depressing and refreshing at the same time. Depressing since it feels like nothing will ever go Ruler’s way, but rather refreshing since we finally got to see Sieg open up a bit and express some emotions. Changing gears to Team Black, as short as Shirou and Achilles interaction was, it was nice to finally get some more information on Shirou’s goal to save mankind. Sure, it may have been information that we discerned as a byproduct of Achilles questions to Shirou, but I for one am excited for a situation where the finale comes down to a battle of ideals where neither side is correct. Show Spoiler ▼

With that out of the way, let’s talk a little about Jack the Ripper. As a side character who isn’t playing for either side, I was really hoping that she’d have some kind of crazy moment where she did something that only a true “assassin” could do. Unfortunately, it looks like she’s become a casualty of a story that’s focused on specific plot points and characters. Something that not only sucks since she’s a cool character, but could have also been used to great effect if you were to play around with the “family” or “mother-daughter” motifs. For any naysayers out there, I think Jack’s Master’s final moments were a prime example of what could have been a great ending for a story between two misunderstood and underprivileged people. Luckily, even though the two were dealt a terrible hand, it looks like we’ll get to see a little more of Jack and hopefully it’ll be enough to give her more of a bang to go out on.

In any case, I’ll catch you guys next week where we’ll get to hopefully see Jack do some crazy stuff inside of what I assumed is a reality marble.

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November 1, 2017 at 12:43 am
141 comments »
  • November 1, 2017 at 12:54 amultimatemegax

    Official relationship chart for Fate/Apocrypha
    https://i.imgur.com/5iZ3mX8.jpg

    Sieg ↔ Astolfo “Trust and mutual dependence.”
    Sieg ← Astolfo “Willing to help him out whenever he needs” & “Romantic love ♥”
    Sieg → Jeanne “Love…?”
    Sieg ← Jeanne “Pledge to protect” & “Romantic love ♥.”
    Sieg ← Siegfried “Sacrifices itself to save the boy.”
    Sieg ↔ Shirou “Enemies.”
    Sieg ← Celenike “Jealousy, envy and hatred.”
    Sieg ← Avicebron “Wanting to use him as his Golem’s ‘core’.”
    Astolfo ← Celenike “Please pardon me.”
    Astolfo ← Celenike “Obsessive–compulsive disorder.”
    Jeanne → Red and black faction “Supervisor”.

  • November 1, 2017 at 12:57 amPapochulo

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:05 amMylene

      Astolfo was raised as a real damsel for years. Then she was groomed to be be a perfect wife.

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:11 amookamigirl

      So, is Astolfo coming back together soon or is this her true defeat?

    • November 2, 2017 at 6:01 amcrow-kun

      I want to make Astolfo my girlfriend!

    • November 3, 2017 at 4:35 amSimpsom

      Astolfo is a cute girl

      • November 3, 2017 at 4:51 amStupidman007

        faggot.

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:38 amjqsilver

      If i was teleported to that world, the first thing id do is locate Astolfo, pull his pants down and suck him off

      • November 3, 2017 at 11:26 pmSciiryo

        That’s just you projecting your own filthy sexually fantasies on Astolfo, bro.

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:12 amRigamortis-chan

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:34 amParse Error

      Usually, the worst waifu always wins the MC bowl in a fate series.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:49 amMystery

      So another worst girl wins?

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:40 amBlood

        Sadly yes.

    • November 3, 2017 at 4:46 amSwissman

      a whore possesses a christian good girl and is turning her into a slut.

      fucking die again Jeanne.

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:18 amPolycell

    yo anyone know the song that plays on episode 14 when the dude finishes the golem? It’s kind of like a slow version of the theme, but I can’t find it anywhere

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:29 amVeers

    Cause I can’t find any subs and I don’t speak weebfag

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:31 amNosferatu21

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:35 amzensunni

      You can’t prove that wasn’t the case.

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:53 amdan7el

      Is Jack the nippah actually a hag?

      • November 1, 2017 at 2:00 amPapochulo

        She’s literally made of prostitutes’ abortions.

      • November 1, 2017 at 2:03 amDeathNote_L

        shitty little hag, yes.

      • November 1, 2017 at 2:17 amBohemian

        She talks like a stupid loli but is clearly not stupid.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:53 amBeltane

      Yet Jack is infertile and destined to be a cuck through artificial insemination/asking a friend for help, if she ever get that far.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:59 amAgent007

      well at least Atalanta finally did something

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:08 amSurrender

      Jack isn’t bad, it’s just not amazing.

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:13 amSzanboti

        Wrong. It fucking sucks

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:16 amSurrender

        Stop being pessimistic.

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:38 amIkari1

    How do I get into Fate, where do I start?

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:45 am7jaws7

      Read the Visual Novel.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:01 amPapochulo

      you dont :L

    • November 1, 2017 at 7:37 amURGH

      You just have to be a fag.

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:48 amIkari1

    What’s the difference between Fate/stay night and Realta nua?

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:55 amPast

      Censored sex scenes, new OST,voices, some new CGs, and a handful of edits to make it fit in a little neater with Fate/Zero and the voices. Mirror Moon patch should get you the best of both.

    • November 1, 2017 at 1:58 amWrangler

      Sex!

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:07 aminfiltration.cru

      Realta Nua has voice acting, a remixed OST, and no sex scenes.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:14 am7jaws7

      Fate/Stay Night is the Visual Novel, while Realta Nua is the version that has no sex scenes in it.

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:20 amIkari1

      Fate/Stay Night is the Visual Novel, while Realta Nua is the version that has no sex scenes in it.

      • November 1, 2017 at 2:23 amsizzlin_chiken

        yes.

  • November 1, 2017 at 1:52 amOne-Eye

    • November 1, 2017 at 2:43 amCecilthedar

      I really like it, too. Specially because Sieg doesn’t suffer from gynephobia and doesn’t even blush in front of waifus as 98% of the current male MCs.

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:29 amSzanboti

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:38 amdarkhappy

        Any limits on my requests?

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:50 amJadress

        This is my dragon for the future.

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:59 amjfrog

        @darkhappy and Jadress
        he is Astolfo’s property

  • November 1, 2017 at 3:23 amPixelationist

    • November 1, 2017 at 9:21 pmEvanUnisil

      Fuck jeannefag.

  • November 1, 2017 at 3:31 amTakokujin

    Which servant out of all servants has been given the worst treatment?
    I’m thinking Ushiwakamaru. Horrible fucking design, and a backstory and personality that’s an exact clone of Saber.

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:43 am7jaws7

      Horrible fucking design, and a backstory and personality that’s an exact clone of Saber.

      I didn’t know saber was an imouto who only wanted headpats and didnt understand anything else about life. Interesting take on her character, bro.

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:47 amDurga

        - autist that doesn’t understand people
        - so competent everyone follows her
        - abandoned and betrayed for being too perfect
        - kuudere
        It fits.

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:56 am7jaws7

        a character is worth more than their backstory, it turns out.

      • November 1, 2017 at 4:01 amTakokujin

        Backstory can be great, though.

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:52 amHalfDemonInuyasha

      Being Lancer is suffering.

      • November 1, 2017 at 4:03 amTakokujin

        Lancers never catch a break. If it’s not rotten luck it’s rotten masters.

      • November 1, 2017 at 11:13 pmhaseo0408

        Still, all Lancers of the franchise don´t a candle to Brinhildr´s misery, the Lancer from Fate Prototype Framents of Blue and Silver, that girl must be the unluckiest girl of the Fate Universe!.

    • November 1, 2017 at 10:07 amSDFGS

      There it is~ THere’s the comment~ I can’t be a typical weekly Apocrypha board without someone bringing up FGO and bitching about it for no other reason than “Notice me! I have a lot to get off my chest and this is apparently the only venue to do so! You know….despite reddit existing for this very thing.

  • November 1, 2017 at 3:50 amOne Pinch Man

    Damn the more I watch Apocrypha the more I don’t care about the plot. I should thank you for writing these reviews, Takaii.
    The big plus of Apocrypha is Astolfo. His chemistry with Sieg is more believable than Sieg with Jeanne.

    • November 1, 2017 at 3:53 am7jaws7

      They skipped too much story from the novels.

      • November 2, 2017 at 12:12 amL002

        I hope the manga would at least cover EVERYTHING!!!!!!

      • November 2, 2017 at 1:16 amnightjuan

        the manga is faithful to LN.

  • November 1, 2017 at 4:02 amHalfDemonInuyasha

    • November 1, 2017 at 9:02 pmbelindabird

      You are absolutely, 100% GAY if you think traps are hotter than actual girls by default. As in, you haven’t even watched the show, but you pick it up because of a trap, start trapposting, etc.

      If you watch the show, and just so happen to think that the trap was the “best girl,” then you ain’t that much of a fag.

      • November 2, 2017 at 3:17 amHalfDemonInuyasha

        1.) There is no need for such homophobic language. Drop it, leave, or get booted if you’re going to be like that.

        2.) Have you even been reading this blog? It’s called a J-O-K-E. We PURPOSELY call Astolfo “best girl” because, aside from official background info saying he is male, he does very little to nothing to show that he is in fact male, but rather he looks, sounds, and acts far more female than male, especially with Sieg, even compared to most of the other females shown whereas your typical trap is usually pretty balanced in masculinity and femininity.

      • November 3, 2017 at 11:42 ambelindabird

        @belindabird you’re sucks dick, just like redditors and malfags

      • November 3, 2017 at 11:44 ambelindabird

        Oops, I meant @haseo0408.

      • November 3, 2017 at 6:58 pmNoggy

        Fuck belindabird.

  • November 1, 2017 at 4:06 amL002

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20Apocrypha/Fate%20Apocrypha%20-%2017%20-%20Large%2033.jpg
    I knew it. In any anime, that involves death, a mother and daughter are the first likely people that would get killed. Honestly, I have yet to know an anime/manga where a loving mother and child get a “happy ending.” T_T

    Well, after reading a bit about the nasuverse and souls, my understanding is that Souls, which can include Wraiths I think, should be able to reincarnate. So
    Show Spoiler ▼

    I am curious why did Archer of Red attack Jack when she should have attacked Ruler. Honestly, Atalanta wasted a perfectly good chance to kill either Ruler or Sieg yet she squandered it by killing a potential ally, Jack, who was trying to kill the Red Faction’s biggest obstacles.

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20Apocrypha/Fate%20Apocrypha%20-%2017%20-%20Large%2003.jpg
    Wonder why Reika is a prostitute, she seems like a very well educated woman. Meh.

    Anyway, from my understanding, every Red Servant has accepted Shirou as their Master who fuels them via Holy Grail; I can at least understand that many servants can have the same “anchor.” Now, I can only wonder if Illya von Einzbern can do the same as a lesser Grail.

    Notably, Shirou mentioned about “throwing away his hatred.” How different would he be as an Avenger?

    On the side note, I saw a certain scene where a restaurant sign had a Vlad/Dracula image; the owner, if he is alive, must have an EX luck since he could have been killed by Vlad.

    • November 1, 2017 at 4:41 amDeath

      Jeanne has EX rank magic resistance and Sieg has Siegfried heart, Siegfried became immortal with dragon’s blood which currently flows in the veins of Sieg.

    • November 1, 2017 at 4:51 amVigilante024

      • November 1, 2017 at 5:34 amL002

        If you are trying to answer my question, with Archer of Red, your answer still doesn’t seem convincing.
        Archer of Red can easily put an arrow, through Sieg’s head, where I doubt Sieg can live through that.

        And I doubt an EX rank magic resistance can protect Jeanne from Archer of Red’s arrows.

      • November 1, 2017 at 3:27 pmVigilante024

        Please read the Illyad. Atalanta’s arrows are enchanted to a magic boost .
        This was also mentioned at Xena: Warrior Princess series, Xena mentioned it to Gabrielle before the battle with Atalanta.
        Sieg can only die in two cases:
        - having your head cut off
        - using all its command seals.

      • November 1, 2017 at 9:05 pmL002

        @Vigilante024
        I would imagine that the impact, from atalanta’s arrows, can at least at least destroy a good chunk of Seig’s brain. At the very least, an arrow through the brain should cause brain damage for seig.

      • November 1, 2017 at 9:19 pmVigilante024

        I don’t know if Fafnir would allow this to be done without doing anything.
        he wants Sieg’s body.

      • November 1, 2017 at 11:05 pmhaseo0408

        I´m not sure if cutting his head of blow it up will actually kill Seig at this point, Seigfried was completely inmmortal, you would need a weapon or magic powerful enough to slay a god to actully scratch the guy!. By the way, are we sure that Fafnir is trying to turn Seig´s body, I was thinking the dragon Seig was seeing was a manifestation of Seigfried´s magical core, kind of what Shirou Emiya saw inside Arturia in the original fate stay night.

      • November 3, 2017 at 1:15 pmL002

        Can Sieg at least get Brain Damage? He doesn’t have to die, but brain damage can cause fatal effects. I can tell magic can heal a lot of stuff but brain damage is a serious issue

  • November 1, 2017 at 6:29 amMagnus Tancred

    Sieg is denser than a 2×4

    He’s not even a month old, and still learning about humanity. Being perceptive of nuances in human behavior is impossible at this point. He simply lacks experience.

    Changing gears to Team Black, as short as Shirou and Achilles

    Shirou is Team RED. We’re more than halfway through the series and you’re still getting the factions mixed up?

    What I see in this episode is how different Jeanne and Shirou are despite both having been betrayed and executed as heretics. Shirou “has a plan for saving humanity”, but TBH he sounds more like a self-righteous zealot than an actual savior.

    • November 2, 2017 at 1:10 amFai

      He gets shit handed to him way too much. Astolfo treated him nice cuz that’s how he was, Chiron respected him from a teacher’s pov, he gave Mordred a good fight. No other people even used his name and called him “homunculus”. Can’t say more because I’ve yet to read volume 5.

      I find Sieg interesting because he gradually changed from a human-shaped doll to a human. His inner conflict against Fafnir, his outer conflict about the beauty and ugliness of humanity, his acceptance of how little he is, his ability to choose his path, his unshakable faith in his closest ones. I find all of those endearing and admirable.

  • November 1, 2017 at 9:14 amJohnPeacekeeper

    Feels like most of the most OP characters in the Fate multiverse have a Reality Marble. No wonder the third time a Gilgamesh (well, it’s Angelica) ends up in one, almost immediate response is to whip out Ea.

    On that note, I still hope we get an FGO animation because I wanna see Shirou vs Shirou animated.

    It’s as epic as it sounds.

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:29 pmmarie-antoinette

      Why do I feel that Saber beats Shirou in so many level, even as a man, when she has a dick?

      • November 3, 2017 at 11:34 pmadonais

        Well, she basically lived her whole life as a man, she literally had sex as a man. I mean, one thing Shirou did to Saber was treat her like a woman/make her feel like a woman.

  • November 1, 2017 at 9:23 amThomas

    Misunderstood and underprivileged?

    They are unrepentant serial killers. Having a hard life does not give you carte blanche to lash out at the world and spread the misery.

    • November 1, 2017 at 11:09 pmhaseo0408

      Jack and her mommy might look cute together but one must not forget those two are monster that pray on the happiness of others just because their lifes suck. That´s I feel nothing but joy when they are being corner like the rabid animals they are, just hoping Jack won´t anyone down with her/them.

    • November 2, 2017 at 4:49 pmL002

      For some reason, I feel you obviously don’t know jack about what Reika and Jack had initially done. I mean they did some good things during the start, as explained in the first parts of the novel that I read, where the two initially went after “bad people.”

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:41 pmDaZ616

      Because you’re TM’s little bitch

  • November 1, 2017 at 8:51 pmEvanUnisil

    • November 1, 2017 at 9:06 pmeyeresist

      I jack to jack

    • November 1, 2017 at 10:34 pmMegiddo

      Wait, so will Jack be put together again, or is Jack, in a sense, dead?

      I do know that this is around when Jack’s spirits engulf Atalanta.

    • November 1, 2017 at 11:18 pmHitokiriShadow

      To think they could make Jack even younger… I’m excited for some JS.

    • November 1, 2017 at 11:41 pmParse Error

      http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20Apocrypha/Fate%20Apocrypha%20-%2017%20-%20Large%2034.jpg
      Jack isn’t dead yet.
      Bringing lolis into a grail war is cruel though, especially as one of the disposable classes.

  • November 1, 2017 at 9:58 pmstarss

    :O

    Other posts are lucky to get over 20 comments on their pages, but Fate Apocrypha gets effin 70!?!?

    • November 1, 2017 at 10:37 pmTwilightmastern

      Aldnoah.Zero had, on average, 150 posts.

    • November 1, 2017 at 10:59 pmhaseo0408

      Some series grab the attention more than others. Some years ago I remember that the premier of Sword Art Online had insane number of comments and the last episode of Guilty Crown broke a recond in the number of comments, most of them full of hatred at how the series crash and burned so loudly.

  • November 1, 2017 at 10:37 pm75ChaosFlare

    I honestly skipped all the Seig/Ruler scenes because I felt like they were going to be dull and forgetful.

    Funny enough, the few only people I cared about were Reika and Jack(despite them being killers and a bit messed) especially with the genuine mother and daughter relationship they have going. It’s a lot better than most f the other master/servant relationships in this series(though it’s not saying much with Astolfo’s previous only wanted him as a sexually toy; there really wasn’t anything to say about Seigfriend’s previous master; Caster of red and his master had that student/teacher relationship though there really wasn’t much too it and the betrayal part).

    Pretty sad they skipped/cut a lot of stuff regarding the their backstories.

  • November 1, 2017 at 10:56 pmhaseo0408

    I´ve noticed something about Jeanne and affections for Seig, she might be trying to justify her love for him as that being Leticia´s feelings, the share a body and they can access each others memories so Jeanne might be trying to fool herself into thinking that she can´t posibly be in love. Considering she has always being a person that thinks of others and never about herslef it makes sense she might be freaking out a little.

  • November 1, 2017 at 11:57 pmmurph

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20Apocrypha/Fate%20Apocrypha%20-%2017%20-%20Large%2016.jpg
    Why does Asstolfo keep dressing like this? Does he know that he’s a boy?

    • November 2, 2017 at 12:25 amzrdb

      Maybe they think there are people watching this who still think he’s a girl?

      • November 2, 2017 at 1:02 amhypersoda

        I never would have known it. if someone did not tell it to me.

      • November 2, 2017 at 5:54 amRDespair

        Damn it. I want to stick it in his ass!

    • November 2, 2017 at 2:57 amHellKorn

      He has no sense of reason until the new moon approaches.

    • November 2, 2017 at 4:47 amPleroma

      Astolfo wants Sieg to pin him down and violate him. He keeps dropping hints but Sieg is clueless.

    • November 3, 2017 at 1:21 amHisdon

      Dressing up as a girl is an excellent tactic.
      Enemies would mistake you as a woman, underestimate you or even ignore you completely.
      In addition they won’t aim for your groin.

  • November 2, 2017 at 1:01 amhypersoda

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20Apocrypha/Fate%20Apocrypha%20-%2017%20-%20Large%2030.jpg
    Why didn’t Atalanta plant an arrow in her head right here? Why did she suddenly need to be within 50 feet to shoot? What a shit archer.

    • November 2, 2017 at 1:39 amImperialkat

      I also want to know why didn’t Atalanta simply kill Jack from afar after killing her mum? a quick arrow to the back instead of playing like cat with a mouse.

    • November 2, 2017 at 2:11 amArdlien

      I figured it might be because Atalanta likes children. That might have made it hard for her to coldly kill Jack while she was crying for her mom.

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:47 pmTcDohl

      I din’t even know who Reika is and she is already dead.

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:54 pmlinlinchan

      Prostitute who’s a bit crazy who wasn’t supposed to become Jack’s master but Jack killed the guy who summoned her and so they became master and servant but Reika was a mere muggle so that meant she can’t transfer mana over to her (sadly) and so Jack had to kill people to get mana (not that either of them minded, Reika told Jack to go after dirty loan sharks and make it as painful as possible)

      They should’ve adapted that 1 chapter manga to clear things up considering Reika didn’t show up for like 12 weeks or something.
      I din’t even know who Reika is and she is already dead. There’s too many characters for this writer to handle.

  • November 2, 2017 at 1:24 amDavid.Seth

    Fate/Extella, is Hakunon going to die there again like the last time?

    • November 2, 2017 at 2:36 amvarmintx

      Death has no meaning to Hakunon. They probably should have got rid of the Royal Authority at the end. Then again they brushed over getting deleted at the end of Extra.

    • November 2, 2017 at 3:25 amDerekTheRed

      Death has no meaning to Hakunon.

      You are right in saying that. Also, because there are tons of her in all time-lines. I’m with Nasu when he said that Hakunon & Gil is the best ending in CCC. If we take into consideration that all possible routes are individual and separate time-lines, Gil is already with one version of Hakunon in some other time-line. Fate/Extella already proved that heroic spirits/servants are aware of the events in the alternate time-lines hence every route actually happened. It would really be great if Gil spill the beans in Fate/Extella Link and admit that he is taking care of Hakunon in another time-line. Multiple “what if” routes is getting lame and I hope they completely dissolve that notion and convey that all of them happened. Gil has GoB which transcends time and space. He can probably use that to summon the Hakunon that is with him in CCC.

      • November 2, 2017 at 3:58 amArdlien

        His version of Hakuno isn’t the original.

      • November 2, 2017 at 4:39 amImperialkat

        Even the true end sakura route in ccc does not really have the real Hakunon. It was just a body with conciousness and memories.
        Sakrura gives them an artificially created, complete human body with ***their mind and memories*** from the Far Side transferred into it. They have no way of knowing how the Holy Grail War on the Near Side will end after leaving, and there still exists the version of Hakuno within the war that still has the possibility to win and arrive at the core.
        Gil even explained it the Hakunon that the body is just created thing and from it consciousness/soul is born. He said this when Hakunon asked if he was really born of a god as said in his legends. Since he overrides every rule, he is the most capable one in extracting the real her. He literally took Hakunon and blasted themselves out of moon cell. I don’t even know if we can strictly call him a heroic spirit because his power and authority seems that of a god. Hakunon even pointed out how unique he is compared to other heroic spirits.
        – B-but how’s that for a Servant?!
        - If there’s a Servant who could replenish his Master’s Command Spells,
        - the entire premise of the Holy Grail War….
        - …….No, I see.
        - It’s because he was such a Heroic Spirit that he had sealed himself in this space.

        The true ending in CCC neutered his powers and restricted his actions yet again.

      • November 2, 2017 at 6:55 amHitokiriShadow

        It was just a body with consciousness and memories.

        What more do you need for a human?

    • November 2, 2017 at 5:58 amTAKAVAR

      She can’t make babies with them. Unless they grow futa dicks like Saber/Arturia.

      • November 2, 2017 at 7:52 amImperialkat

        The point was, Hakuno was not fully extracted from the moon cell. The mind and memories were just replicas/copies. How did Sakura even created the body? In HF, Rin was having a hard time finding a decent body for Shirou. For her to be considered as the real one, she must be completely purged out of the system. Just like in the movie, “the matrix”. When they pull out of the system, they are really out. This excerpt proves that Gil really took Hakunon out of moon cell. Not a copy or a replica.
        (Gilgamesh) No, it doesn’t. Could you be any more stupid, Moon Cell? There’s no reason the winner should disappear on achieving perfect victory! If you have no need for her, then **I’ll take her!**
        How? His “I’am the rules” deus ex machina is the first thing that comes into mind

    • November 2, 2017 at 8:03 amone3rd

      Why do I feel that Saber beats Shirou in so many level, even as a man, when she has a dick?

      • November 2, 2017 at 9:31 amvarmintx

        Well, she basically lived her whole life as a man, she literally had sex as a man. I mean, one thing Shirou did to Saber was treat her like a woman/make her feel like a woman.

      • November 2, 2017 at 11:02 amRDespair

        Didn’t Gil made her feel more like a woman by wanting her and asking her hand in marriage?

      • November 2, 2017 at 6:37 pmvarmintx

        Oh boy, here we got again.

      • November 2, 2017 at 8:54 pm7jaws7

        Dunno. Read the VN.

      • November 3, 2017 at 12:29 pmJohnPeacekeeper

        Sparks Liner High.

  • November 2, 2017 at 9:00 pmPleroma

    Fate/Apocrypha Episode 18 Preview [Eng Sub]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsMe6JrQNwg

    18. From Hell Shielding
    Jack the Ripper, Reika Rikudou, her Master, was shot to death by Ataranta, Archer of Red’s arrow. Although Jack the Ripper is shot by Atalanta’s arrow, the loss of Master makes her cover around herself with deep fog in sorrow. Atalanta, Sieg and Jeanne d’Arc are invited to her nightmare. While each stands against Jack the Ripper’s phantom, Jeanne d’Arc makes a decision.

  • November 3, 2017 at 4:40 amshh227

    • November 3, 2017 at 4:48 amd.yaro

      Sieg’s property.

      • November 3, 2017 at 8:57 amgecko

        I’m not gay but for some reason those two really look nice together.

    • November 3, 2017 at 9:00 amChanges

      THIS FUCKING OUTFIT MY DICK.

  • November 3, 2017 at 11:31 amChanges

    • November 3, 2017 at 11:46 amdarkchibi

      No, thanks to Siegfried’s heart his lifespan is now that of a normal human’s.

      • November 3, 2017 at 12:13 pmChanges

        It is good to know. I thought that the heart just to save him and nothing else.

      • November 3, 2017 at 12:23 pmdarkchibi

        Trivia: After gaining Saber of Black’s heart, Sieg’s appearance physically changes and he gains a stronger constitution which leads Rider of Black to claim he can live for more than 100 years. Then, Astolfo and Sieg passionately kissed and Jeanne ran away because she was very jealous. The last sentence is just a joke but it will happen soon. ;_;

      • November 3, 2017 at 6:57 pmExaar

        Jeanne would not to that. She will push him away like this.

  • November 7, 2017 at 5:18 amdracoconnie

    *sigh…. Siege is like a newborn homunculus who knows nothing of relationships/love and stuff. It had nothing to do with being dense as he NEVER experience those stuff.

    • November 7, 2017 at 10:28 pmsalukechechzkov

      Don’t worry about Takaii and their shit posts, people stop taking them seriously after episode 5.
      To give you a clearer idea of the status of Takaii shitposter. MAL, reddit, and the 4chan’s /vg/ (/fgog/) and /r/ boards are considered as the most disgusting and worst places to discuss any Type-Moon-related topic, and Takaii and their shit posts have already reached the same level as them after the episode 5.

      Takaii is totally obsessed with the idea that the homunculi should behave like a love interest and waifu pandering character like Illya in Fate/Stay Night or like an 10-year-old elementary school girl which is also a Magical/CGDCT girl like Illya in Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma, where Illy literally is used as a wish-fulfillment character through excessive and pointless fanservice, and pedo/yuri/waifu pandering to satisfy the sense of wish-fulfillment from the pedo/yuri/waifu fags.

      So you should just ignore Takkai and their shit posts, and move on.

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