First Impressions / Gundam

Summary:

Given what Setsuna said about change, Graham questions if that’s the pinnacle of what Setsuna has achieved. He remembers back to meeting with Homer and the desire to fight Celestial Being: back then, he had told Homer that he wanted the pinnacle that only people who fight can reach. Graham hopes only for victory, but Setsuna points out that there’s also the future. Back in their fight, the two battle in their respective Trans-Am modes, but right as Graham tries to finish off Setsuna, the 00 Raiser catches and breaks the Susanoo’s blade. The 00 Raiser then pierces the Susanoo’s shoulders, destroying both of its arms and knocking it out of Trans-Am. Emerging from the cockpit bloodied but still alive, Graham wants Setsuna to finish him off, but Setsuna refuses and explains that he’s living and taking hold of tomorrow – that is his battle. Leaving Graham with the idea of fighting to live, Setsuna and Saji fly off, and since Louise is already gone, the two head back to the Ptolemaios. Watching them go, Regene wonders if Setsuna awoke as a purebred, and he thinks that that is the power to take hold of the fate of mankind.

Once Setsuna returns to the Ptolemaios, he gives the crew the location of Veda, and they figure out that Veda is now hidden on the far side of the moon. More good news comes in the arrival of Linda and the new Gundam equipment. Meanwhile, the A-LAWS fleet prepares to embark on their mission to take down Celestial Being, and Arthur is confident with the force of 21 ships and 108 mobile suits. It doesn’t bother him that Hiling, Revive, and Louise have all left the fleet with their respective mobile suits and mobile armor. They had actually gotten orders from Ribbons to return to base, and Andrei is with them because he’s sticking with Louise. Although in pain in her cockpit, Louise remembers how she killed Nena and feels that Nena got her just deserts. Back on the Ptolemaios, Linda has brought all sorts of parts and supplies, including the 0 Gundam. In fact, the 0 Gundam has been outfitted with a particle storage tank so that it can participate in combat for a limited amount of time.

On the bridge, Sumeragi and the Meisters observe that there’s an A-LAWS fleet gathering at the point that Wang Liu Mei gave them. Both Saji and Soma are ready to participate in a battle, and Setsuna feels that they’re all fighting for the future. For Tieria, it’s to liberate mankind from the rule of the Innovators. For Allelujah, it’s so that existences such as himself and Soma don’t ever appear again in the world. For Lyle, it’s to overthrow the Federation government and defeat the Innovators. Given all this, Setsuna feels that they are changing because not changing means that they can’t face the future. With even Lasse rejoining the crew, they prepare to head towards the moon. Elsewhere in space, Marina and the children are with the Katharon fleet, and Setsuna is on her mind. The Katharon forces have gotten word of the A-LAWS fleet, and they’re coordinating on a tactical plan with the coup faction. Unbeknownst to everyone, Ribbons is with his army of clones, and he’s ready to see if they or Setsuna decide the fate of mankind. In addition, Graham, who is still at Lagrange 5, considers killing himself, but he hesitates after remembering what Setsuna said about fighting for the sake of living.

As the Gundam Meisters prepare to launch, Setsuna runs into Feldt who gives him a flower that Linda had grown. After he takes it, Feldt wonders if Marina will be angry, but Setsuna declares that he doesn’t have such a relationship with her. The Gundam Meisters then launch one by one, each with something different on their mind. Tieria expresses his desire to get Veda back and asks Lockon to guide him, Soma tells Allelujah that he can call her Marie if he wants, Lyle is thinking about Anew, and Saji tells Setsuna that he wants to find the future. They soon run into the first wave of A-LAWS ships and mobile suits, and although they fare pretty well against this force, the A-LAWS ships head straight towards the Ptolemaios. Sumeragi has Setsuna use the Raiser Sword to take out the ships, but emerging from the wreckage is an anti-field that soon covers the entire area. This has the effect of weakening particle beams, and Arthur quickly takes advantage of the trap that he set by sending in his main force.

The Gundams are quickly overwhelmed, and the Ptolemaios comes under attack by missiles that can pierce its GN field. Right as things start to look really bad though, the Ptolemaios is saved by the arrival of the Katharon forces. Sumeragi notices immediately that Katharon’s weapons indicate that they had forecasted the anti-field being there, and she responds by sending the Ptolemaios towards the enemy fleet. At around this same time, Arthur’s forces gets attacked by Kati’s forces, and this wreaks havoc on the A-LAWS fleet. The 00 Raiser then emerges from the anti-field and fires the shot that destroys Arthur’s command ship. Meanwhile, watching the battle from his base, Ribbons comments on how mankind likes to fight. Walking in, Regene notes that it’s Ribbons who led them to this point, but Ribbons thinks that it should have been Regene’s wish as well. Ribbons reminds Regene that he’s superior to the others and should be called the Creator, and he’s able to know Regene’s ambitions through quantum brain waves. Realizing what this means, Regene pulls out a gun and shoots Ribbons in the head. As Ribbons lays bleeding on the ground, Regene declares that it is he himself who will lead mankind.

Preview

I thought the episode proper ended rather tepidly – Arthur’s death would have been fine, but they cut to a drawn out shot of the Ptolemaios flying towards the battle, taking all the oomph out of the ending – however the epilogue sure finished with a bang with Regene shooting Ribbons in the head. Now if only they hadn’t spoiled things by showing Ribbons still alive in the preview for next week, then we could all be complaining about how making Regene the final boss character screws up everything that they’ve been building up to. But they did show Ribbons in the preview, so it would seem that he’s still on top of things. What I want to know is what he plans to do with his clone army – it’s pretty late in the series for him to be pulling something like that out.

As for the rest of the episode, I enjoyed the battle simply because Arthur finally did bite the dust, though I swear that a lot of what happened was the result of the writers just wanting to put Celestial Being in a tight spot and have Katharon save the day for once. At least Kati and Patrick finally showed back up and (as expected) are on the good guys’ side now. I could have done without the pre-battle montage though of everyone’s motivations since they already did something similar a few episodes ago. I realize that they’re emphasizing that each pilot has their own motivations, but that time could have probably been better spent on something else. Oh and I laughed at the even remote possibility of FeldtXSetsuna when she gave him the flower. I laughed even more when Setsuna implied that he didn’t really have a romantic relationship with Marina. I doubt that pairing will ever develop into anything significant, especially not this late in the series.

In any case, next week’s episode should be interesting since the preview shows the RX-78-2 Gundam 0 Gundam in action. The preview also hints at the Innovator’s mothership, and we need to find out what happened to Graham as well.

186 Comments

  6. Ha, for once in my life. God /m/ has ruined me…

    Anyways!!! A few things of note.

    1. Lasse + Gundam RX 87 0 = win.
    2. Army of Innovators in CB flight suits. Will this end up being the Dummy System of 00?
    3. Ribbons got Ribbons. But not really.

    FutureGuy
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  9. If Hercules is alive, maybe Wang is alive too. Is not surprise Kai join Kataron, she open her eyes and saw the true nature of A-Law. So Mr. Bushido lost in the battle, I am not fell sorry for that.

    Rosi
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  11. I laughed at the even remote possibility of FeldtXSetsuna when she gave him the flower. I laughed even more when Setsuna suggested that he didn’t really have a romantic relationship with Marina. So much for that pairing…

    So much for what pairing? SetsunaXMarina? Agreed.

    Tokkan
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  14. Damn, the Imortal One is back on action, well i knew Patrick was going to face A-Laws sooner or later, another interesting episode at best lets see what happens with 0 Gundam on the next episode.

    Vicious
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  31. Oh dear….Dear producers, are you trying too hard?

    Though I relish the idea…SetsunaxFeldt at this time? When there’s been hardly any development between them? It’s not really automatic suicide, but it certainly does wonders for plot credibility.

    Great shock value, lousy plot development…At least from what I can see and from what Omni says. Might change my mind once I watch the episode…Hopefully.

    Owaranai
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  34. At this point they should of just stuck with setsunaxmarina at least they have some development in their relationship, I have no problem with setsunaxfeldt it’s just that’s it’s the last few episodes

    Setsuna00
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  38. hey guyz, wat happened in EP 22:

    1.cherudim got carnapped by GN-XIII a-laws type?
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2030.jpg

    2.kati and patrick are now side of katharon?
    3.wat happened to louisse after she destroy throne drei(nena)?
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2013.jpg

    3.what new weapons they received from lagrange 5?

    4. and finally, who is the pilot of RX-78-2 Gundam (00 version) (NOT ORIGINAL GUNDAM)
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2015.jpg

    dexter
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  42. Yeah I’m not digging the MP Innovator twist…..like at all. It’s like Ribbons just found a trainer for the strategy game called Gundam 00 and used it to instantly max out his unit count to the point where they won’t even fit on the screen. I know he’s supposed to be able to create Innovators, but dear christ that many. I just hope I never have to see a copypasta shot like that in anything ever again.

    Seriously though what kind of a plot twist is this? Even if Ribbons is supposed to be able to create more Innovators this is just so far fetched and they can really do better for a final scenario. Really disappointed. I hope this isn’t what the last few episodes are going to be like, Setsuna just cleaving through wave after wave of Divine Nova’s in whatever MP Suit they get with 0-Raiser. That would just be lame.

    Kaioshin Sama
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  49. Graham training to be a samurai
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2002.jpg

    Phycho Louise
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2013.jpg

    WTF!!!!
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2021.jpg

    I think Graham is doing Seppuku
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2022.jpg

    F**k on that asshole
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2035.jpg

    Ribbons got shot
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%2039.jpg

    WTF!?!?!? HE’S ALIVE!!!!!!
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%20Preview%2001.jpg

    What the!? the RX-78? or is it the 0 Gundam?
    https://randomc.net/image/Gundam%2000/Gundam%2000%20Second%20Season%20-%2022%20-%20Large%20Preview%2002.jpg

    SilentmanX
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  52. I can’t stop laughing whenever I see those clones!

    Setsuna x Feldt? How many moments have they had?

    – After Lockon died where they shared a moment
    – Feldt in the beginning saying she knew Setsuna would be alive
    – This one

    Can’t seem to remember anything else. They’re both a nice quiet couple. Not bad.

    Mmm
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  55. Well, you know, I think that maybe sunrise pulled out of any Setsuna x Marina looking at fan reaction probably. I don’t think the fanbase really liked Marina from the start, but it’s just my guess.

    Also maybe the age gap of uhh, 6? years was too much in this respect.

    Or maybe there’s just no Setsuna x anything. All the Setsuna x Gundam jokes aside, maybe this time around the main character in a gundam series won’t get any love interest?

    I haven’t seen the ep yet (waiting for subs) but I don’t see how this flower scene can hint at Setsuna x Feldt either. Maybe people are reading into it too much. I think at this point Setsuna will just end up alone.

    GP
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  66. I somehow knew that Ribbons was just going to spam Innovators sooner or later. RX-78-2, pure awesomeness. I think Kati became the leader of the coup de tat not joined Kataron. Otherwise, Kataron would have better ships and MS. I am amazed that Kataron destroyed some Aheads and GN-XIIIs and save CB when their suits were so fodder. 😛

    justin43
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  69. Seriously, don’t take what Setsuna said to Feldt seriously. Remember their scene in S1? The one where when she asked him if there was anyone he’d want to write a letter to and he replied with “No”? Remember how that turned out? Wait until the end of the series.

    Len
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  70. Knowing Ribbons, he probably made copies of himself or its cause he’s freakin ribbons and a bullet to the head isn’t gonna stop him..regene will die ofcourse…. and im expecting a setsuna vs. Ribbons in episode 25

    Yo-Yo
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  72. @Len

    Oh, you bring up an interesting point. We do still have 3 eps to go. Maybe Sunrise is just messing with us till the end. We’ll only know for sure once the series is over.

    I’m still waiting for subs though, can’t get a good idea of how things went down in this ep just from screenshots.

    GP
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  74. @Yo-Yo:
    Agree. I think that Ribbons is a clone. If he can clone an army of Innovators, why can’t he clone himself for body double to protect him? My guess is that we’ll see the original Ribbons showed up with Ali Al Sarshes coming down from the stairs.

    Speaking of Feldt X Setsuna, I think it’s only one way… Look at how Setsuna responded to Feldt as she approached him. Compare that to the way he treated Wang in the last episode almost made think that he had a thing for Wang… Also, he has been thinking and mentioning about Marina several times in the last couple episodes.

    Gundam 00 Fan
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  78. @Justin43
    Kataron managed to defeat some suits because Kati predicted Arthur’s move of spreading anti-beam particles and so equipped the suits with the appropriate weaponry, whereas CB and a-laws were reduced to gn-missile barrages. And about that, I didn’t really like the smoke, made everything blurry: probably a ploy to reduce animation quality.

    I also agree there won’t be any SetsunaxFeldt. Its more of a friendly gesture than romance. Anyway the actual flower itself probably plays a more important role somewhere in the end. Speaking of which judging from the episode it seems likely bushido will return at the last moment to save Setsuna (somewhat like the finale of Gundam W with Zechs destroying himself and the ship at the last moment).

    BlackBishop
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  81. This is what I imagine Ribbons evil mastermind checklist to be like these days.

    Body double clone while I am off supervising my super special happy evil plans in person.

    Check.

    Divine Nova and Bring Stability clones?

    Check.

    Automated factory spewing out Innovator Mobile Suits?

    Check.

    Prototype Cyber Innovator, whom I have ensured is mentally unstable for some reason, whom also may have been cloned just for lulz.

    Check.

    Clone of Anew Returner to screw with Lockon by having it, and maybe others!, fight with him.

    Check.

    Shrine to Setsuna, the first human Innovator,

    Work in progress (lack of DNA for clone for *cough* fun unavailable)

    The above is me just having fun, but honestly if *I* was Ribbons. I would clone Anew as well just to screw with Lockon. Psychological warfare is awesome when applied right. Hell I would not be surprised if he resurrected his creator’s corpse just to have it screw with CB and state that Ribbon’s plan was his plan all along.

    But that’s just me.

    Bluevirage
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  94. well….Setsuna X Feldt could happen…. I mean look at the opening when setsuna reach for someones hand …the arm is pink shaded…not blueish green shaded…..idk maybe its just wishful thinking

    Hai Man
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  101. Okay, I take back what I said. The pairing is pretty ambiguous actually, because Feldt’s question might well be similar to the ones asked by Milenia about relationships. The only thing here is that she’s giving him a flower, so that gesture alone makes it all the more ambiguous exciting for SetsunaxFeldt people.

    That said, Nice to see a RX-78 lookalike back in action as well as Kathy and Immortal Corlasawar. For people who LOVE to complain about the episode, a bit of advice: Watch it for the kicks and see how it’s going to end rather than get your panties in a bunch.=P

    Owaranai
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  104. I re-watched the 1st season about two weeks ago and I do believe there was a scene in the cafeteria where Feldt was watching Setsuna eating. There was something else too seemed Feldt had a thing for Setsuna before she hooked up with Lockon.

    Rai
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  109. I really wanted there to be something like mass-produced gundams that all had condensers, leading to a massive army of CB gundams, but oh well, I’ll live with 0 Gundam.
    On the other hand, I think FeldtxSetsuna cannot happen because he sees the member so the Ptolemaios as his family, and Marina as a mother-like figure.
    Therefore, SetsunaxGundam ALL THE WAY!!!
    About the wasted time in motivational speeches, they were highly prevailent (sp?) in GS ‘n GSD. Though the counter-argument could be made that G00 is a much shorter series.

    Albino
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  112. Personally I think the type of relationship Marina and Setsuna have was sealed by producer Iketani Hiroomi’s comments in the magazine, and it’s not lovey dovey even though it’s stronger than the first season.

    Feldt and Setsuna isn’t as clear cut. The flower is suppose to play some part, but it would have flowed better if Marina was the one to give it. Oh well. I kind of like this route if they decide to take it.

    Setsuna still has his Gundam if he gets no one.

    Mmm
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  113. All those clones(?)… it’s been a while since I had a serious WTF moment. Outside of photoshop or fan pics I never seen something like this.

    Clones Wars. What next? Revenge of the Bushido?

    The series gave up all pretense of being serious.

    Ah well. I gave up expecting anything much from the series and got rid of the video files I had of Gundam 00 Season 2.

    Teo
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  116. The flower Feldt gave Setsuna appears in OP 3, before Marina reaches for Setsuna; OP 4, near the beginning; and in Setsuna’s dream about Marina.
    Hmmm.
    Also. Remember first season where Feldt asked Setsuna if there was anyone he wanted to write a letter to, he said no, but ended up writing a letter to Marina?
    It’s too early to jump to conclusions.

    some person
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  118. all this talk about the ribbons’ clones had me thought of a nice challenge: “Count the clones!” – who ever get’s it right, get a clone for his/her slave!

    early219@yahoo.com
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  122. i for one would welcome the feltxsetsuna just because marina is the most boring heroine i have seen of late, she gives a new meaning to useless is useless but alas i am more interested on how this is going to turn out unlike the ending of the first season this is shaping to be a very sunrised!!!! end.

    luckyhuh ?
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  125. people the show still has 3 ep left lets not compare it to clone wars. Lots of shows now use clones. I was wondering when louise killed nena was that her first major kill? Has she killed many people? She was always supporting everyone else? I wish this show would not keep tapping into gsd….ah The haros floating around naked in dream state. gundam 0 looks like strike rogue also. This is a good series so far i agree with omni late in series for clones wonder what he is going to do with them. I wonder where is al-saachez he likes war and killing should he be in space also?????? thanks

    animejohndoe
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  127. Ok seriously with all this going on do you really effing think that they WONT go to season 3? come on its episode 22 and nothings happened yet theres 3 EPISODES LEFT! say hello to season 3 for sure.

    Raithos
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  128. The homages to the UC universe keep on piling up. I hope Graham awakens as an Innovator as well. That would be most interesting. I also want Ribbons final boss Gundam to be a homage to the Nu Gundam, Amuro Ray’s last Gundam.

    jackdoe
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  130. wow this is a popular blog…

    ANYway, can anyone PLEASE tell me WHATS THE SONG playing at about 11:45, when the 00 Gundam launches? It sounds like.. the Brilliant Green/Tommy february..?? It sounds so familiar….

    Thank you!!

    *marie*
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  131. The battle was great, like the new equips (should have just given 00 his gn sword 2s back as well, more exia reminiscent), though the battle quality got lowered due to those particle disruptor covering everything in a green effect (Its a subliminal message saying quality of things get ruined from greenhouses! oh noez! XD) Thank god that Arthur guy is dead, he was such a useless character (except for hate builing) and I loved his death scene, because its so funny, which it should be.

    As for Setsuna x Felt, I theorized on it after seeing the Namidou OP, since the hand Setsuna was about to touch is surrounded by Pink. Though atm, whether Setsuna likes Felt or not, guess we’ll have to wait. Lol, he’s gonna be a lady killer? LOL XD

    Still awesome ep, its almost coming to an end.

    ValiantBlade
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  135. Awww Feltd wishes to be loved, as much as I would like SetsunaXFeltd, it won’t happen, though i have a feeling that one of them is gonna die by the end of the series. Would of been muuch better if the SetsunaXFeltd pairing was introduced earlier, I mean its about 100 times better then the SetsunaXMarina pairing and I support it 100%. Hmmm I always wonder who’s hand Setsuna was reaching for in the OP, I guess it might be Feltd’s.

    And finally Arthur die, now all that’s left on my list is Ribbons and Ali, which I believe will come soon.

    I’m disappointed in Sunrises job to reconciliate Allejuah and Soma/Marie, they just somehow randomly made up with each other in time.

    Darkfate
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  136. So, Gundam 00 takes place in an alternate world to that of the original MS Gundam where the RX-78-2 is called Gundam 0 and Amuro Ray is a psychopathic newtype called Ribbons?

    cythas
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  137. For Marie and Allelujah, they already dropped soem hints. When he stopped Soma from chasing Andrei and Saji told her that revenge was useless, that was the start. When Allelujah said that he wanted to prevent people like him and Soma Peries from appearing again, she gave him a look.

    For Setsuna using Trams Am twice, the Trans Am system recharges. The time it needs to recharge likely depends on the amount of GN particles used during Trans Am. Much like a fuel tank, you use less fuel you don’t need to top up as much

    Interestingly, listening to Marina’s Tomorrow the full version, makes me wonder if she dies before the last battle

    Zaku Fan
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  138. And you’ll see skywalker & r2d2…er…Saji & Haro attack Veda and the clones go offline…

    mister bushido needs to pilot that 0 gundam, and the members of ferehsete(?) needs to make an appearance. and for feldt & setsuna? maybe if they do get together, maybe they have a child that will be a meister or part of celestial being like feldt herself. then bandai/sunrise will have gundam000 till they come out another gundam series, which is rumored to be a continuation of the original UC series.

    waha
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  140. so Masurao/Susanoo is a flag after all, I have always been wondering why duz it look like a flag so much 😛 ?!?!? looking forward for the O gundam in actions <3 oh and since Graham’s out now, is Ali gonna step in? havent seen him for a while 🙁

    gaogaigar
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  141. Not even Almark has enough money for that many Garazzos. Clone army = chores and stuff then.

    And why is Ribbons still alive? He’s either a clone or he’s immortal o_O

    Voltazux
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  144. I’m guessing Ribbons’ consciousness has been downloaded into Veda, or something of the like. Upon “death” he can simply upload himself into a new clone body, or better yet control the body psychically through Veda. The latter would grant him an insane ability of controlling multiple clones at once… As close as a mortal can ever get to omnipresence.

    Sentinel
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  145. Espada’s Weekly Episode Opinion 22

    1. We are nearing to the end T_T
    2. graham defeated and reveals that his mobiles suit is tampered xD
    3. OH YEAH THE PIG IS DEAD!!!
    4. Feldt falling in love with setsuna <_< so marina step aside your dumped by seie
    5. cross over of naruto xD
    6. regene now shows her true colors

    next week opinion:
    many will die… one after another…

    Espada
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  148. Nice ep..

    Seeing Lyle’s face in the preview I’m guessing we’re going to see Anew again, or well at least a clone. But who’s gone pilot 0 gundam, Graham maybe? or maybe a guest appearance of Kira, the writers better not put Feldt in a mobile suite, that ‘d be nuts.

    Jordiblau
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  149. My list of people need to die has been increased (Glad that fatty Arthur bites the dust in a very shameful way)

    Forgive my swearing but I have to let this out

    Ali needs to die (damn Marina and her song >_<#)
    Renege need to die (take out the Tiera clone already Sunrise!)
    Fucking Ribbons (Fucking forced Setsuna to kill Anew, brainwashing poor Louise, and fucking everything up in generals) and his bad skills at Photoshop.

    And the biggest douchebag of them all ANDREI!!! He reminds me of that other douchebag from Destiny (Long Purple hair guy sound familiar?)

    There goes my ranting, but I found this episode to make me lol.

    Especially between SetsunaxFeldt moment I just burst out laughing!

    Unknown-Man
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  153. i dontthink we see SetsunaXFeldt, IMO she was just nice because all people there are Family und Setsuna has his Gundam, so as long as it isnt destroyed no Woman has a Chance.

    That Ribbons is coming back doesnt surprise me. I mean he knew Regene is betraying him, so he must have a Plan against it.

    I reall would like to have a third Season. Well lets see how this here Ends.

    FlyTaggart
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  161. Wow that really does look like the RX-78 Gundam. Do you think he created a new innovator for the clones or do you think that they are copies of Johann or Michael Trinity gone innovator?

    Marth186
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  162. My theory: 0 Gundam IS RX-78. Just a really old version of it. Heck, it might even be Amuro’s one.

    This sorta coincides with actual particle beams (not lasers like SEED), people who are like Newtypes, and just about everything else that seems to be leading to “AD is just before UC”. S3/Movie will probably introduce a nuclear powered 0 Gundam, and some guy named (whatever the particle in UC is called) will come out and make “GN Particles” from a nuclear drive.

    Also, Unicorn Gundam (I think that’s around 009X UC) has a system that is a bit too much like Trans-AM. Consider it “banned tech” revisited.

    Vsin
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  166. I think that Patrick or Graham is gonna pilot the O Gundam, but of the two i’d say its most likely Patrick because they already are on CBs side. Ptolemaios can’t spare any of its crew to pilot it, because they need them all to steer the ship and man the gunports so it can’t be Lasse using it.

    Geekodot
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  167. Ok, Graham is NOT on CB’s side yet, but he probably will be soon :P. I guess Ali Al Saachez will return in the next episode in a new Gundam because he is working for the innovators and the next ep is going to focus on their mothership appearently.

    Geekodot
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  168. i dont think patrick will pilot 0 gundam, thats abit proposterous, at worse youd say saji cause he pretty much sits on 00’s back and does nothing, feltd perhaps? i sorta cant wait for the final eps now, its building a fair climax leaving enough room for a proper battle between the innovators(and their clone army…-_^) and CB. i think the clone army is there to stall an episode rather than being a major plot device, considering we know ribbons can create innovators(hes said it so many times…) its not that suprising that he now has a “clone army”. Star Wars reference much? Clone armies…Death stars…all u r really lacking is a pint-sized wrinkled green super jedi and a hyperventilating guy in a robot suit

    Halbie
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  169. @Halbie

    I don’t think Feldt or Saji will pilot the 0 Gundam as Feldt is necessary on the bridge and Saji is piloting 0-Raiser (Setsuna can’t use Raiser Sword without Saji in there as proved by ep 17).

    If not Patrick or Graham, I think Ian is going to pilot 0 Gundam, but that would kinda disappoint me 😛 I’ll stick with believing that Patrick will get it as Kathi and Sumeragi are on the same side now and Patrick should be equal to Lasse at least in battle strength. Of course it wouldn’t surprise me if Graham uses it, but I don’t think its fighting style fits him that well as it seems like it just works for a limited time with pre-stored GN particles and Graham is always trying to get max power out of his mobile suits.

    I also think Patrick needs more screentime in s2 as I think he is one of the funniest characters of Gundam 00.

    Geekodot
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  172. @OV3RSPEC

    Then who is gonna man the gun ports of Ptolemaios? As I keep saying, all the CB members are busy with their own tasks on the ship 😛 The one with the most free time to use the 0 Gundam in CB is Ian or Sumeragi (or Ian’s wife). Somehow I doubt Sumeragi will fight with the 0 Gundam… It is going to be Ian or someone important from Katharon or the Coup faction. Im voting for Patrick as I think he finaly deserves to be on the same level as the Gundams^^

    Of course it might actually be Lasse if Ptolemaios gets destroyed or something… but I dont think 0 Gundam is stronger without a GN drive than the Ptolemaios, so it’d be stupid to have him pilot the 0 Gundam at this time.

    Geekodot
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  173. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-03-11/bandai-head/no-plans-for-2009-gundam-tv-series
    The Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season anime project is currently airing in Japan, but it started in October of 2008 and it is scheduled to end on March 29. A new, as yet unnamed series will mark the anniversary in Kadokawa Shoten’s Gundam Ace manga magazine.
    The Gpara.com website reports that Bandai President and CEO Kazunori Ueno said on Wednesday that “there are no plans to broadcast [another Gundam] television series in 2009.” Ueno was responding to a question posed during a press conference: “Will a new work be announced in 2009 to commemorate the 30th anniversary [of the Gundam robot anime franchise]?” There will be a short movie produced to mark the anniversary at August’s Gundam Big Expo convention in Tokyo.

    lilu
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  179. It’s probably going to be Lasse. CB’s ship uses auto guns for the most part. Ian may use it as a last ditch effort to defend ptolemy and then get owned in it. Really, whoever pilots it isn’t a main character and will likely die.

    Sumeragi would probably die on the ship. I get this feeling she’s going to die near the end. I think everyone will die near the end, except for Setsuna.

    OV3RSPEC
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  180. anyone think that the 0 Gundam kinda looks like the GAT-X105 Strike / ZGMF-X56S Impulse Gundam. The colors look kinda similar and the concept of the shield w/ beam rifle + beam saber on the back.

    Anyone wanna take a bet on if Ribbons moved Veda to his mothership?

    And i have a guess as to who may be able to pilot the 0 Gundam.
    Show Spoiler ▼

    jin
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  181. @FlyTaggart: Unfortunately in today’s shipping oriented community something as simple as Feldt presenting a flower to Setsuna as if to say come back safely must mean that they are romantically linked to some people…..even if that is so clearly not the case and that the scene was about as nonchalantly presented as they come.

    Kaioshin Sama
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  182. @ OV3RSPEC

    correction, everyone aged 21 and over will die, one golden rule is your not allowed to kill anyone younger than that (especially if they’re on the “good guys side) in any story as it leads to mood backlash, this doublely applies to very popular characters a.k.a ‘ensemble darkhorses’ which is what feldt and patrick are.

    and feldt piloting the 0 gundam doesn’t make logical sense as a)she’s needed on the bridge and b) she doesn’t have any kind of mobile suit training at all, putting an untrained person inside a complex machine is just being stupid

    blind_dead_mcjones
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  183. ” Oh and I laughed at the even remote possibility of FeldtXSetsuna when she gave him the flower. I laughed even more when Setsuna implied that he didn’t really have a romantic relationship with Marina. I doubt that pairing will ever develop into anything significant, especially not this late in the series. ”

    me too . who is he kidding ? everyone nows that he have a thing with marina -=-”

    Nanci
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