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Sword Art Online: Alicization – 10

「禁忌目録」 (Kinki Mokuroku)
“Taboo Index”

Well then — that escalated quickly.

General Impressions

Boy, where do I even start with this one? I guess to tackle the elephant in the room, let’s all get it out of our system that a genuine bon a fide rape almost occurred. Amongst it all, I think the part that really grinded my gears was how those two pieces of noble scum were using various in-game laws and protocols to literally force Eugeo to his knees. Thinking back to the moment where he was trying to get off his knees to draw his sword, I remember almost seeing red from just how frustrated I was with how the whole thing was going. Thankfully Eugeo was able to break past the programming that was inhibiting his ability to ignore the rules of the Underworld and was able to save both apprentices from having their “honor” stripped from them. That and I hope I wasn’t the only one who was cheering a bit when Kirito showed up in just the nick of time to really send the message to the remaining scumbag noble about what can happen if you think you’re above common morality.

That all said, what I think I might have enjoyed more than watching the two asshats get their comeuppance was seeing the programming of the Underworld breaking down with Kirito there to witness it. Seeing how he hasn’t learned about what happens to a fluctlight when their psyche experiences too much trauma, I really hope that the story will get an opportunity to really flesh out some of the specifics of the way the Underworld truly works.

Overall, I think you could say this was more of a “feel good, pay things off” episode. In terms of actual content there wasn’t all that much there, but what we did get was absolutely amazing. With little hints being dropped here and there and characters outside of the main cast revealing that they also know of some system preventing them from doing things, I was loving how the façade of the Underworld was slowly starting to break down when push came to shove. That and who would have thought that after all of this we’d get to see Alice of all people?! Hopefully we’ll get some more answers next week but until then, be safe and I’ll see you guys when then next episode airs!

 

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December 10, 2018 at 12:56 am
51 comments »
  • December 10, 2018 at 1:41 amYojimbo

    Those nobles were just goblins in disguise. Must kill all the goblins!

    Jokes aside, one thing which was weird this episode was how long it took Kirito to get there. He presumably saw the confrontation escalating so he want back to get his sword, but I would of thought he would of confronted the nobles before Eugeo got there.

    • December 10, 2018 at 1:48 amSeph

      He was probably waiting for the right moment to make an entrance.

    • December 11, 2018 at 5:59 amdefunkt_bots

      Pretty sure Kirito went to the Page dorms, whereas Eugeo went directly to the Nobles room.

      Though it’s not exactly clear how far away the dorms and diciples rooms are.. They didn’t wait long after the bell to assume that something was up.. then again the only one who’s usually late for the reports was Kirito himself… and the weather had gone all stormy with a chance of rapey-danger…

      but the moment of his arrival was no less pinpoint than the plot required.. more cool points for K-dog

  • December 10, 2018 at 1:47 amSeph

    What I think what happened at the end was the will to survive and the need to obey the Taboo Index conflicting with each other.

    They were programmed to obey the Taboo Index at all costs, but they are also programmed to be actual living beings and thus have a will to survive. In this case, to survive means breaking the Taboo Index and that’s a no-no. But not breaking it meant dying and that’s not an option either and so it went on.

    In short, he literally crashed due to a infinite looping error.

    • December 16, 2018 at 12:23 pmNasost

      It reminded me of what happens with Azimov’s robots when there is too much of a conflict between the Three Laws. For instance, if there was too much opposing pressure from the law of self-preservation (law 3), and a weekly stated command from a human (law 2). If the pressures were perfectly balanced, the robot would go into lock-up and the positronic brain would be ruined.

  • December 10, 2018 at 2:07 amsouma

  • December 10, 2018 at 2:10 amOne Pinch Man

    https://randomc.net/image/Sword%20Art%20Online/Sword%20Art%20Online%20Alicization%20-%2010%20-%20Large%2024.jpg
    That was hard to watch but I should praise the animator and the seiyuu. In the context, they’ve done good job making me feel disgusted and winced.

  • December 10, 2018 at 4:10 amTeletube

    Oh god this is NTR material right here (upcoming NTR doujins are gonna be strong)…SAO isn’t SAO without some rape-y content isn’t it? That makes me wonder if what I heard about the author excusing himself for putting that in Alfheim (not only there…) was really true. Because I don’t see any reflection here, on the opposite it does seem like he made the rape even more intense in almost every sense of the meaning.

    • December 10, 2018 at 2:26 pmanon696

      drop the -y

    • December 11, 2018 at 12:16 amYojimbo

      To be fair, Aliciziation is based on a fantasy/medieval setting where sexual abuse was stereotypically seen as common (e.g. like GoT, Tudors etc…)

  • December 10, 2018 at 4:28 amMikasa

    When will Kirito do the raping?

    • December 10, 2018 at 5:06 amAex

      When Asuna wants to try out “rape role-play”.

  • December 10, 2018 at 6:11 amdave_k

    I guess to tackle the elephant in the room, let’s all get it out of our system that a genuine bon a fide rape almost occurred.
    I think SAO is one of the few times where I’d buy the argument against rape as a narrative element – mostly because the writer just keeps repeatedly hitting that as his benchmark for: “see how evil this dude is! He’s really bad, right!”.

    Some research would run off a significant list of historical ways nobility were far more disturbing when it came to punishing those who crossed them that could’ve been used there. Hell, if that’s too time consuming then go watch some Saw films if you need new ways to be disgustingly cruel to others. In this series, rape’s just lazily repetitive as a plot point now.

  • December 10, 2018 at 6:32 amRenaSayers

    Listen, I believe when someone is miss treated you should speak out, especially when a couple of bad seeds are abusing laws to suit their needs and the nobles got what’s coming to them. However both Tiese and Ronie didn’t really speak out correctly did they? Ronie and Tiese confronted the Nobles thinking they won’t get attacked. (common mistake with the young) What’s worse is Tiese’s and Ronie’s action involved both Eugeo and Kirito and the cost was high.

    https://randomc.net/image/Sword%20Art%20Online/Sword%20Art%20Online%20Alicization%20-%2010%20-%2005.jpg

    • December 11, 2018 at 11:39 pmKaleRylan

      ..what the hell?

      Are you victim-blaming cartoon characters? Is this a satire?

      • December 12, 2018 at 2:13 amRenaSayers

        Not really, just stating a point from the perspective of the characters.

    • December 16, 2018 at 12:27 pmNasost

      The Taboo Index prevented them from speaking out against a command from someone of a higher rank.

  • December 10, 2018 at 9:40 amAccess

    I don’t have a problem with rape in fiction. If you want to use it in a story by all means go ahead. If I recall correctly the reason Kawahara seems so fond of it is because it was a common element in stories he read in high school, but why do these people need to be so comically over-the-top evil?
    It’s a serious situation, portray it as such. You don’t have to go full Wolf Guy but it would make it more chilling and maybe even create some tension for once.

  • December 10, 2018 at 9:44 amKurik

    That was a difficult episdoe to watch but also a quite a good one in regards to the character growth for all of them. I am curious as to what will be the punishment for both our protagonists but all in due time i guess.

  • December 10, 2018 at 9:54 amyoloalchemist

    Many people in the comments were worried about what happen in this episode, then I started the episode, and that warning was what set me straight. Man, this was hard to watch. I mean, who’s to say the girls haven’t been traumatized, even if the rape was averted? That much blood pouring all over them must’ve done something to their psyche. And then that death scene. Woah, SAO has gone a bit of Goblin Slayer this episode.

    • December 10, 2018 at 9:56 amyoloalchemist

      Oh and, there is another elephant in the room. The taboo index is just a bunch of unfair bullshit.

      • December 10, 2018 at 11:49 amWorldwidedepp

        Well…

        You guys know “Robocop”? Where an Police Officer get killed and “reborn” within an Robot Body?

        He also had the “3 Absolute Laws” programmed inside him…

        So this Taboo Index is not new in the Movies world, but “new” for SAO

      • December 10, 2018 at 11:53 amWorldwidedepp

        https://youtu.be/t1_Pw563opc?t=35

        i am meaning the “untold 4th law” here.. If you know the film or are an old fan, you know the 4th Law…

      • December 10, 2018 at 1:29 pmRyudo

        Ah yes I remember that @Worldwide.

        Directive 4, when he tried to arrest Dick Jones (a senior guy at OCP) it basically started shutting him down.

      • December 11, 2018 at 10:11 amWorldwidedepp

        @Ryudo

        Bingo, here the scene:
        https://youtu.be/QvmFhcGCRzA?t=77

      • December 16, 2018 at 12:30 pmNasost

        It sure is,
        Show Spoiler ▼

    • December 13, 2018 at 12:00 amMockman

      FWIW, the root of that is probably Isaac Asimov’s three laws of robotics, which date back to stories written in the 1940s, and is probably best represented in The Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun, both from the 1950s. Apparently, he felt that most robots previously always went berserk and ultimately would destroy their creator, and wanted to bring such stories to another place.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics

  • December 10, 2018 at 11:34 amUrizithar

    Some terribly written villain is rapy because plot demands. A day like any other in SAO. Nothing new.

  • December 10, 2018 at 11:46 amWorldwidedepp

    You should had seen pardon read the uproar in reddit about this rape scene..

    But in the end, it triggered the emotions that the producer wanted.. well nothing beats “instincts”

    • December 10, 2018 at 1:06 pmRenaSayers

      Well controversy makes great news, readers can digest and feel like their opinions matter yet they are just getting trolled.

  • December 10, 2018 at 4:33 pmPorn

    It is very admirable for those noble scums to patiently wait for eugeo or even kirito’s arrival before doing the rape when common rapist wouldn’t be that generous.

  • December 10, 2018 at 4:55 pmjhpace1

    https://randomc.net/image/Sword%20Art%20Online/Sword%20Art%20Online%20Alicization%20-%2010%20-%2038.jpg
    Isn’t this what the boys wanted? To get to the tower quicker? To become the special Knights?

    But what is Alice doing, being a Knight herself? Is this what happens to those who violate the Taboo Index?

  • December 10, 2018 at 5:51 pmkirin

    https://randomc.net/image/Sword%20Art%20Online/Sword%20Art%20Online%20Alicization%20-%2010%20-%20Large%2005.jpg

    I’m realy curious about the taboo index and i feel the studio need to take time to explain it, because it’s kinda weird if there’s no murder, no robbery, but rape is safe? isn’t rape also an act of robbery?

    • December 10, 2018 at 8:30 pmAex

      The whole problem was that the two a$$holes were high-ranking nobles, so the Taboo Index first followed the law that nobles have the right to “discipline” anyone of lesser rank. “Discipline” has a very broad definition, so the only thing they probably couldn’t do was try to kill the girls.

      Some serious lack of foresight in this index…

      • December 10, 2018 at 8:58 pmkirin

        Wew that’s one hell of a logical bug.

    • December 11, 2018 at 9:06 amEnan84

      IMHO the situation with the taboo index is the logical conclusion of a system where high level characters outweigh dozens of lower level characters. The abuse of the system is exactly what happens if the high level characters are no good guys.

      I wonder if you can change or create the taboo index if you system authority is high enough. Somewhere that thing must come from.

  • December 10, 2018 at 6:17 pmrandom viewer

  • December 10, 2018 at 11:32 pmLunar

    SAO’s author just has no idea of how to make a villain without making him a creepy rapist?

    • December 11, 2018 at 12:04 pmLyfe

      It’s not like he really needed to do that either. There’s plenty of other ways you can make a bad guy a complete unredeemable ass. If you replay that rapey scene, you could replace the danger with something else easily enough and get the same reaction from Eugeo.

    • December 11, 2018 at 12:42 pmWorldwidedepp

      And.. is SAO not an Virtual Online Game just with better Interface? So an Forcing rule on some Player?.. or is our Hero here an NPC?

      Or is the Real World VR something alike “the Matrix”?

      • December 11, 2018 at 2:40 pmLyfe

        I don’t think of Underworld as a traditional game in the SAO universe. It’s like one big experiment.

  • December 11, 2018 at 12:12 pmEnan84

    https://randomc.net/image/Sword%20Art%20Online/Sword%20Art%20Online%20Alicization%20-%2010%20-%20Large%2038.jpg

    Interesting, in the physical world they believe Alice is dead. So I wonder if the fluctlights are aware that a higher power is searching for index breakers and therefore try to mask them.

  • December 11, 2018 at 5:22 pmstarss

    Man. This got so out of hand, Reki had to go online and apologize to the two voice actors!

    • December 11, 2018 at 5:40 pmLyfe

      Which in this case is understandable. Using rape as a plot device is just terrible writing. It’s often so out of place from what proceeded. The same could be said for the Fairy Dance arc scene too.

      • December 12, 2018 at 12:28 pmAmeri

        Apparently the writer grew up reading it and likes it. Honestly they took the job probably knowing the scene was there so I don’t see the issue, “sorry for making you adapt the material I wrote”? It is what it is, it’s obviously something he uses as plot points in his stories whether people agree with it or not.

      • December 12, 2018 at 4:42 pmLyfe

        The scene is entirely irrelevant to why A-1 took the job lol. Sword Art Online is one of the biggest anime franchises of the decade and a sure thing to bring in the $$$ for the studio.

      • December 12, 2018 at 4:45 pmLyfe

        Oh and as for the Voice actors, I’d imagine they felt they had little choice but to voice the scene because it may harm their career prospects to pull out of a huge project like SAO. They may not have been light novel readers before being cast and didn’t know until the script was there that they would be involved in a rapey scene.

      • December 13, 2018 at 2:16 amAmeri

        I’m sure they’ll survive the trauma of being part of one of the most successful franchises in the world.

        Seriously, I find it annoying that people try to limit an author’s writing based on their own morality/taste. Either watch it or don’t, don’t complain about it though.

      • December 13, 2018 at 6:54 amLyfe

        > Either watch it or don’t, don’t complain about it though.

        The author shouldn’t be immune from criticism. To suggest otherwise is absurd, people have a right to criticize bad writing.

  • December 14, 2018 at 3:52 pmPerson

    These types of villains are a symptom of shitty writing imo.

  • December 14, 2018 at 8:46 pmPokeNirvash

    Wherever SAO goes, it must also rape.

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