“Crime and Punishment”Justice and Morality: What a fitting title. When I saw that this episode shared the name of Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s famous novel, I was expecting moral dilemmas to be involved, and is it turns out that’s the biggest thing I took from this episode. This was bloody, gory, and unforgiving. Kiseijuu isn’t something I watch for the fights (though they’re very well animated) but rather for the questions it raises and the character arcs it develops, so when there’s an episode consisting entirely of brutal fighting, it could either be hit or miss, but for the most part this was a hit – not because it was enjoyable to watch, in fact it was the opposite. You could simplify it down to two ways to look at this parasite annihilation; you could think that the measures used here were necessary to effectively eliminate the threat, or you could think that this was an inhumane act that showed who the true monsters were. And as a whole, I think I agree with the latter. Don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t make the parasites the good guys in any way, but the massacre we saw here led by the unforgiving Yamagishi was a sick form of justice. The method they’re using here is unreliable and before long fights break out, but the collateral damage is too much to ignore. Obviously this is fictional but when in reality police do kill innocent people for being quick to the trigger, it’s the first thing that comes to my mind. So many innocents shouldn’t have to die to extinguish this threat – it’s understandable that they do it here and now, but when things get so out of hand that you’re relying on gut instinct to decide someone’s fate, it’s too far. Throwing Uragami into the mix makes it even messier. He’s a funny one, allowing a regular human to be killed before saving others later one. I don’t know what goes on his head, but at least he knows when danger stands in front of him. Gotou is pretty damn impressive. That’s been obvious since his first introduction and from what we’ve seen of him, but he’s clearly something far beyond the other parasites. He’s a seriously intimidating man, and a very fitting villain to the series. I just hope Shinichi deals the finishing blow… Lack of Shinichi: Speaking of Shinichi, yet again he doesn’t do much – in fact he does almost nothing. I appreciated that Tamura’s words came to his mind in that moment, but watching him sit in the background is quite painful. I seriously hope he does something next time or I’m going to be quite disappointed. Overview – What’s Next? Shinichi’s lack of involvement aside, this episode was just as great as the many before it. I appreciated the moral dilemmas we got along with the bloodbath. For now it seems the humans are winning, but Gotou is a serious threat that need to be taken out as soon as possible. But going by the preview it also looks like Shinichi and Murano’s relationship might go to the next level. I do wonder how that comes about. |
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Figuring out how to tell Parasyte from a human? No Problem lets just shoot everyone
Flawless Logic
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He finally makes the move on his coworker and this happens to him. Worse. Luck. Ever.
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“Attention all, You know I’m about to whoop your asses right?”
Those two office workers can expect a really nice fine. Totally fair, for attempting what they had in mind, at the probably most inappropriate time possible, causing the SWAT unit unnecessary risks. Disobeying police orders is just like breaking law, other than the fact that sex is prohibited at work anyways…
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So it takes a monster to fight a monster. Yamagishi showed parasytes just how ruthless humans can be.
In the immortal words of Netero (HxH 2011), “Don’t underestimate the human race.”
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Someone picked the wrong time for an office romp.
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Next episode title: SEX AND SPIRIT. Is that Shinichi x Murano scene from the OP finally happening? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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This Episode could be better, sadly.
I say, it should’ve been more fast-paced. No need to wallow in narrations, Uragami’s quips and Yamagishi’s actions are sufficient for the viewers to see the theme of the episode. Faster pace would also make the SWAT’s action looks more decisive, well-trained, and intelligent – They gawked too much as if they’re some green rookies never in action.
MADHOUSE also could’ve got Hirokawa’s encounter and revelation to this episode rather than in the next episode
No S.W.A.T training could prepare you to fight killer aliens who can disguise themselves as humans and slice people in half in an instant, their panic is very well excused.
That’s not the problem. When the parasytes are disguised, it is understandable that they don’t know what to do. But, when the parasytes are revealed, they should shoot it right away. The fact that the SWAT guys just stand there and do nothing is just plot convenience. At least portray them doing something more than standing there, even if they’re going to get killed, otherwise they just look stupid.
@Apa
It is obvious they shot every parasite on sight as fast as possible and pretty much killed them all (even when civilians where in the line of fire or used as meat shields), the only parasyte that they hesitated to shoot was Gotou, so i don’t know where that complain is coming from.
@Hunter-Wolf
That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Doesn’t matter if they do the logical thing to other parasytes. When it comes to the fight against Gotoh, the fact that they do barely anything is just plot convenience. And that’s the problem. A lot of the things that happen in this anime are just plot convenience.
It’s gonna be a threesome. Shinichi x Murano x Migi
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Shinichi and Murano hentai is going to happen.
He may be ruthless but he has a point. Sometimes 100 have to die so 10,000 can live.
Sure it’s cruel, but I respect that they’re taking no chances and that they decided to get rid of them for good. It’s a necessary evil.
That is very difficult to say – especially, if you havent been in this kind of situation yourself.
Kill them all, let God guide my Sword to separate the Sinners from the innocents
or so.
As Migi mentioned in the earlier episodes, humans are the closest thing to demons in this world.
Next week’s episode is going to be lewd.
Can’t wait for the inevitable Gotou fight.
Gotou is the biggest problem right now. Even the SWAT Team stood no chance against him. At this point, I just don’t see how Shinichi can beat him.
Darn, that was an impressive episode. It was surprising at first how easily the parasytes were killed, but if a rock can do the job, so can a shotgun. The police definitely could have done a better job at avoiding things going utterly FUBAR, but I find it hard to condemn them too much or feel any sympathy for the parasytes given how many people they’ve killed and would continue to kill if let roam. I actually liked Shinichi’s inaction a lot; once the authorities get involved it’s so easy to sit back and unload all responsibility on them. Felt like the Shounen protagonist taking the sensible route for once… though not necessarily the right one.
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If a blatantly suspicious man asks you to follow him, don’t! Shoot, and then keep shooting! Nothing that can’t be solved by moar Dakka!
Just nitpicking but Parasyte is a Seinen.
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My trypophobia sense is tingling while watching this
You made me learn a new word. Thanks. Now off to wikipedia to check out the rest of the coined -phobias.
…and all I need is looking on my own wart. Great.
I had to google that to find out. Now I have a new fear. Thanks a lot.
I made the same comment on my twitter. Didn’t know there was an actual word for this phobia but I seriously hate holes. Especially holes in the ground… and on the walls… on PEOPLE, is the absolute worst *shivers >_<
Large holes on human body is totally nightmarish…
Personally, I find lots of small holes on humans more terrifying than big ones. So my senses were not tingling as much.
Divine once used the word “trypophobia”.
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Yeah same, I couldn’t watch that part, gave me shivers D:
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This is part of the local countermeasures vs Parasytes within Shinichi’s immediate surroundings…
Makes me wonder how the rest of the world are coping with the so called infestation.
*It was implied all the way from the first episode that the Parasyte spores wasn’t only in Japan, right?
“in extremis exterminatus”
“suffer not xenos to live”
Actually I think Japan has probably relatively organized and civilized approach, consider vigilantes taking upon themselves to cleanse parasites in thirld world countries, or good old USA where anyone can posses military grade rifle… or all kind of dictatorships where secret police finally gets ultimate carte blanche to kill anyone.
Heh, as hilarious & fun as it might have been to have some of W40k’s over-the-topness here, the fact that it doesn’t provides no easy answers here, making the show more interesting 😛
Oh how the tables have turned. I feel like the theme of the episode is: Who is the true monster?
The Parasytes defending themselves from assault or the human soldiers killing indiscriminately?
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Both would be a simple answer, with the SWAT forces sacrificing normal civilians in order to kill off the parasytes and the parasytes using those civilians as shields to survive. Thing is, monsters or not, both have legitimate reasons for doing what they’re doing, in which case I wonder if calling them monsters is still fair.
Except that the parasite created this situation in the first place, they killed hundreds of humans before only to feed on them even-though they can live off normal food just fine, it’s obvious who are the real monsters.
It’s possible that either Tamura Reiko is the rare ones who could live without human meat, the other parastye didn’t know about this or a combination of these two. You need to remember Tamura Reiko is special and you can’t just use what she can do as what the other parastye can do.
@ofislacker
Except Tamura pointed out that all parasytes could live off normal food, the only thing different between her and other parasytes is that she started empathizing with humanity and her relation with the baby is probably the source of that along with Shinichi’s relation with Migi, i guess the other parasytes don’t care much about normal food and are more interested in hunting and eating humans even if they knew, that or Tamura chose for some reason to not share that info with them.
To me the real issue is Yamagishi, the guy is real monster in this scenario, he didn´t blink when he realized he killed an inncent person. Even Uragami, the convicted serial killer acts more human than him; guys I really hope Yamagishi doesn´t leave the City alive because that´s one monster that scare much more than the parasytes.
So in the end both are monsters but of a different kind.
The words of Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing come to mind:
“Seras: where am I?
Integra: The Holy Order of Protestan Knights, also known as the Hellsing Organization, a plce full of monsters that hunt down other monsters.”
‘Sometimes to be able to defeat monsters, you have to become one yourself.’
That is quite Nietzsche of you mate.
Is it just me or is there a similarity to the Chimera Ant arc from Hunter x Hunter? This arc seems to focus on two species fighting one another over territory. And the humans aren’t portrayed as being all good.
That’s a common theme in fantasy/sci-fi, comics, anime, etc. It’s just that most don’t do it as well as this or HxH.
The show emphasizes more on the grey and gray morality of both sides, as either of them can be ‘monsters’ in their own right given the situation.
For once the human side isn’t portrayed as powerless.
Wow, as predicted a very bloody episode. Honestly I expected Shinichi to be involved in the parasyte extermination.
Hirokawa looks so calm and collected. I can’t wait to see how he deals with the soldiers and what his plan is.
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I think there is a possibility he might surrender and ask for negotiations with the authorities using his political position for leverage (like how he shouted at the soldiers not to aim weapons at the civilians), that would really surprise everyone who won’t see that reaction coming and would explain why he is so calm, of course he would have other ulterior motives but him choosing to surrender after all that messy killing would really throw everyone in a loop and make the human side look really bad.
Damn I wished I hadn’t read the manga. Suffice to say you’ll be surprised 🙂
To be honest i think i’m enjoying this more because i read the manga.
1. It’s a danm good story
2. It s damn good adaption
So it’s a double win 🙂 (unlike my Akame ga kill experience… )
The question is, is he’s gonna turn into another beast like Gotou or does he have something else planned in mind?
I’m not trying to defend Uragami’s actions, but I don’t think he technically “let” a regular human die the first time. He did overreact, but at the same time he was right; there were two parasites lined up together of those three, it’s just that the regular human was the one who tried to run away. Not that Uragami cares, but still.
I don’t think we’ve ever seen exactly how well or how quickly he can distinguish humans from parasites, but it does take him a little time. Even Gotoh took a couple seconds, before he realized he should be running.
What strikes me as odd is the completely cell-shaded crowd shot in the first 3-ish minutes. It looks completely weird and out of place, and I was all “WHUT.”
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Now I know why they have Rikiya Koyama voice this guy. Sacrificing few to save many. Sounds familiar.
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I actually find Uragami the most fascinating character of the bunch. Before Reiko died, I used to think she was quite interesting too but she’s a parasite and it was hard to tell what she was really thinking. Uragami is a great example of why I like watching crime shows and that’s for the criminal profiling that they do to analyze and catch criminals. Uragami was unlucky because he was caught for a crime he didn’t actually commit, but what I would love to see them actually define his character more and do more flashbacks or something. I understand how he can determine who is a parasite and who isn’t, but what are his motives for killing women (I assume they were always women?) and eating them? What makes him a serial killer and what drives him to insanity? I think by understanding him more, it’d be clear that he’s obviously in this for himself and if given the chance, he’s just going to try and run to escape. He wouldn’t lie to the police about who is what, but that’s why he tries to save himself first when he saw Gotou and also why he’s not intentionally trying to kill humans when the police shot the wrong guy. I think he’s trying to help but lying wouldn’t help his cause, and he’s still only looking out for number one. Uragami is probably the only one that I’m watching closely now to see what he does and how it impacts Shinichi… I wonder if he’ll start doubting himself once he finds out that Shinichi IS a parasite and his judgment was wrong.
A psychopath is a psychopath. A killer is a killer. Combine both and you get bestiality. Thats all there is to it. Thats Uragami.
I find Uragami entertaining and funny to watch so I hope he doesn’t die to soon XD
How again did they find that a lot of parasites are in this building. Did I miss something?
On the other hand this show is brilliant, it makes me shiver thinking about the civilians.
Shinichi told the detective about the town hall people and he wrote it down in his note to the police.
One thing that’s been bugging me, did Yamagishi really learn how to tell parasytes apart from humans or was his strategy just to kill anyone?
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Likely, he learnt how to tell fake personalities from real ones. Parasytes don’t feel much emotion and have a lack of empathy, so they have to put in effort to emulate human emotion and personality.
Yamagishi listened to that man speak then had to make a judgement call on whether the man was acting or was for real. Meaning, he doesn’t know for sure, but he can somewhat tell.
I think he has an instinct similar to Uragami’s, he is used to seeing humans in their most weak or intense moments so when can feel when someone is acting abnormally, after all Parasites could trick people easily in normal situations but when the situation would cause real humans to panic or show emotions the parasites usually fail at imitating and they can be obvious and easy to spot if you have the eye for it.
Uragami is a bit different. At first I thought he was like Kana and had an ability to detect parasite signals. Also, unlike Kana, he has to visually observe them in order to tell. Kana could detect parasites from afar. Instead he actually is a sort of psychic where he can tell a killer from a non-killer. It isn’t just a binary decision too as Uragami can sort of “measure” them too. That’s why he had a crazy reaction when he saw Gotou since he probably measured a multitude of “killers” inside Gotou.
From the manga, few pages after he says he can tell them apart…
Yamagishi = Emiya Kirisugu working as policeman
Same VA. Koyama Rikiya.
In this specific situation it’s really hard to blame the soldiers for their actions even if they seem gruesome (and there has to be an investigation to determine the necessity of such measures), they are dealing with an alien threat that can easily disguise itself as perfectly normal and harmless humans and in a fraction of a sec they spout bladed tentacles and slice everyone to minced meat, of course the soldiers will act aggressive, suspicious and swif.
The two people who died acted unreasonably, the first started running and didn’t respond when they told him to stop, and the second tried to play the hero and got up when told explicitly to stay down or they will be killed, in a situation where the military is dealing with an extreme threat like that there is no room for allowing this kind of behavior, you let your guard down for a sec and that innocent looking civilian could turn into a parasyte and slice you in half, IMO the only innocents who didn’t deserve to die are the ones who got forcefully hauled by the parasytes and used as meat shields, they really didn’t do anything to deserve that.
Also, what they choose between here is little collateral damage or massive collateral damage, there is no choice that doesn’t involve civilians falling, the parasites don’t give a fuck and would use every opportunity to but something between them and the soldiers regardless of how many people die in the process.
Military/police killing innocent civilians for their goals is realistic. FBI does this all the time.
To sort of play Devil’s Advocate, I feel they could’ve avoided this blood bath altogether with a different plan. They perhaps could’ve waited outside the building staking out the place with their scanning bus so they could identify as many parasytes as they could over the course of a few days or even weeks. Then they could begin recording their patterns of movement so they could plan the best way to keep them separated and kill them with minimal risk and as covertly as possibly in smaller groups simultaneously (divide and conquer).
Sure, planning it out would take time and result in more people dying in the meantime, but it surely wouldn’t have been as deadly as what they did, which was force a confrontation amongst a crowd of people in a closed off space, since there was no way they were not going to have heavy collateral damage. Though you wonder why they didn’t use snipers once they got them out into the open as backup/support.
Though the authorities were pretty much in a damned if you do or damned if you don’t situation. In any case, whatever direction the story felt like going in I’m confident would’ve been just as compelling and entertaining.
You know you are fucked when someone tells you that you got 2 minutes to do what you can against him.
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Had the Matrix vibe in this scene. Person in suit owning ;D
Can that be considered honour? Gotoh at least gave those soldiers a chance to kill him.
The Penta-syte shines brightly here!
I get a whole two minutes?!?! Ok then, you stand right there, while I… eh close this door and make a run.
Was I the only one rooting for the Parasytes on this episode? Lol
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I felt terrible for feeling a bit of sympathy for the parasites.
The parasites didn’t expect the humans to be ruthlessly efficient and fast with their investigation. They thought the status quo would continue but they were severely wrong when they decided to kill that private investigator’s family. It started a chain reaction that led to their exposure and now extermination.
So many parasyte sympathizers here. They are the true monsters. Just because they didn’t kill as many people doesn’t change the fact that they’re the predator and humans are the prey.
Well, true, but predators aren’t evil.
The only problem with the parasites is that even though they can live off just human food, they still devour other human beings anyway. I guess all parasites have a strong instinct to devour anything alive. It’s in their nature to consume and combine with everything. It was only Tamura Reiko that managed to overcome this instinct. And Migi and the neck parasite don’t eat humans because their hosts will never allow them to.
Shinichi and Murano having sex = Shinichi POWERUP? Lol
Nice acting by Mayor Hirokawa. I almost believed him myself.
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Except that he really isn’t that much different from real politicians XD
THAT was a dark episode! It’s classic human paranoia and the parasites are doing a pretty damn good job at exploiting that.
LMAO. I couldn’t agree more.
Fear is a powerful thing, you know…It could probably have been the suspension bridge effect driven to maximum overload. XD
I can’t believe those SWAT guys just followed Gotoh instead of shooting him right away like they did with everyone else.
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How is Yamagishi gonna answer for all the innocents he killed?
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I have trouble believing his team was in their rights, legal and otherwise, to commit such a massacre.
Wouldn’t the easiest way instead of this scanning thing is simply to pull one strand of everyone’s hair?
And what’s gonna happen to the one trying to pull the hair?
actually, that might be a good point. Instead, have them pull their own hair while pointing guns at them or something.
But what if the Parasytes start imitating bald people, good luck with the hair pulling then XD
You could always say they can find a better way but for every day they try to find that more people are becoming prey to these parasyte. So in the end it’s a question of whenever doing the unforgivable now and save those who would die in the future, or wait to find a possible better way while more die while doing so. In the end, it’s hard to say which will result in less death count, but it’s just a matter of views and ignorance.
Also, you couldn’t blame those on site carrying the plan out. Those parasyte would kill them the moment they hesitated, so for them it’s kill or be killed. Of course you could blame those who planned this but honestly, how else are you gonna do about this now? Look at their previous way of pull out hairs, those who pull the hair is guaranteed to die while this plan would have cause lesser causalities. Of course they could wait to fins better alternatives, but people still die that way.
Amazing episode, and Shinichi was barely even in it. Yeah, I do feel sympathy towards the parasites, but come on – at the end of the day they still kill and eat humans.
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That cliffhanger is pretty frustrating. Hopefully Izumi gets a bit more screen time next episode.
I can’t believe Uragami didn’t trick the police into killing more innocents. That’s something I’d imagine him doing. He’s a serial killer after all.
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Great episode of Parasyte. We are finally in the endgame and I cannot wait to see how Shinichi will duel and win against Goto.
I think it’s safe to say it can be both. That humans have to do what they must to protect themselves, but by doing so become monsters themselves, and sadly that’s just the consequence to preserving the species. There’s always a duality to this sort of action, and it speaks volumes when any show attempts to tackle this with depth as opposed to highlighting just one side superficially.
I don’t really follow this series, I’ve seen one episode from the first season and this episode on TV. I couldn’t wait for the next episode so I read the manga from this part till the end, and I kinda wish I didn’t lol.
Theres something called patience. If you dont have it you’ll screw yourself many times over. I hope you’ve learned your lesson
Well, The ANN guy doesn’t like the episode. He’s right though.
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