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「空白 夜の終わり」 (Kuuhaku Yoru no Owari)
“A Blank and the End of Night”

Chills. I knew what was coming, and still I got chills. This battle was a thing of beauty.

False Climax

Usually stories like these are about the good guys triumphing over evil, so there’s not much question about how they will end. The joy is in finding out how they’ll get there. A false climax like the one we got here, where it looked like Rin and Luvia finished it in one blast only to have them apparently die, is a great way to dial up the tension. The trick is coming up with a reason for the heroes to triumph that makes sense even though it wasn’t obvious immediately beforehand.

I think they did that.

Illya, Mode: Archer

This is still a Fate story people, and some of the old rules still apply (except when they don’t…eh, you’ll see). Yes, I could criticize the reveal for not being as easy for non-Fate fans to follow, but a protagonist suddenly manifesting special powers isn’t exactly a new development (trope!). Original it may not be, so what matters was how well it was done.

It was done well. I don’t think I can do justice to the beautiful, terrible, vibrantly brutal battle that took place this episode. Even the screen caps don’t do it justice, not without seeing that artful movement as they danced and clashed across the screen. It was a treat to Fate fans to see Illya cracking out all of Archer’s old moves (gar + moe = gaoe? Moer? Gamoer? Eh, I’ll think on it), but for anyone watching it was still a spectacle that must be seen. This is how a manga-to-anime adaptation should do a battle – take what was great on the page and bring it alive with movement and sound, as only an anime can do.

Atmosphere, Pacing, Tone

The pacing has been a touch spotty in the last two episodes, mainly because they had to cover three manga chapters in two episodes, and that’s an awkward gap to span. That’s why we saw some of the previous episode repeated before the OP – they were stalling for time. The slow pacing extended through Rin & Luvia’s argument, but after Saber fired her first Excalibur blast, it started working in our favor. The slow tempo plus the haunting soundtrack really evoked the feeling of desperation and despair. There were moments where you almost can’t help wonder whether this was going to go full Fate/Zero and really start fucking with our heads and hearts.

Once we got to the battle though, the pacing was wonderful. That was the centerpiece, the reason this part of the story was told, and it succeeded in spades. Plus, one minor thing that especially impressed me: how they included a humorous moment right before the peppy ED. They would have run into the ED dissonance that I’ve argued against so frequently, but that quick little joke staved it off. Great directing there.

Looking Ahead

Meido Miyu. That is all. Okay, so actually there’s more on the way, but meido Miyu. I think I’ve said all that needs to be said for now.

tl;dr: @StiltsOutLoud – Chills, chills, chills. I knew what was going to happen, and still it was amazing. So many chills #prismaillya

Random thoughts:

  • That’s how real mahou shoujo do. Full power, total annihilation! Erh, uh oh–
  • Illya is more badass than you will ever be. That is all.

For more from yours truly, check out my blog on writing, art, and the book I’m working on at stiltsoutloud.com.

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End Card

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August 16, 2013 at 5:39 pm
157 comments »
  • August 16, 2013 at 5:49 pmFlareKnight

    This was just an unbelievably awesome episode. I mean holy crap. Illya just went into awesome mode there.

    I think this episode just did things well. Had that really unsettling period where there is just no one besides Miyu and Illya. Just walking around in that desolate area. Then Saber shows up and things are looking incredibly bleak. They give some mystery with that lock breaking and Illya unleashing that power. Using the card not to just augment their weapons but rather to actually transform her into Archer.

    What can one say besides the fight was unbelievable? The motion and fluid action was just great. The music also just completely did a great job adding to the scene. Archer Illya just fought with a lot of grace. Not just power on power, but deflecting and deft movements. At the end it was about power on power, but hard to gracefully deal with an Excalibur blast XD.

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:38 pmRadiosonde

      Mind u, that is how Archer is supposed to fight . It’s funny how the ‘proper’ F/S fights are being animated in a ‘side story’ (This show is considered canon) rather than the main one.

      • August 16, 2013 at 8:35 pmFlareKnight

        Yeah, have definitely heard that before and agree with it. Seems very much like she took Archers skills and fighting style and fought just like him out there. Certainly a great representation of his style. A flexible fighting style with good parrying and throwing in some ranged strikes when the timing is right.

        Honestly I’m glad this series had such an awesome episode. Hopefully this really catches people’s attention.

  • August 16, 2013 at 5:55 pmLinkark07

    So much awesomeness in this episode.

    Emiya remix, Unlimited Blade Works, Excalibur, Kanshou and Bakuya over edge version.

    I am gar for Archer Illya.

    • August 17, 2013 at 2:29 amSaphirio

      More like…
      Unlimited Loli Works… :3

  • August 16, 2013 at 6:06 pmhaseo0408

    To hell with Shirou! Archer Illya just stole the show all by herself! Talk about awesome badass.

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:46 pmStilts

      Awww, but Illya would be sad without her onii-chan!

      • August 16, 2013 at 9:35 pmL002

        It should be noted that the Archer card is supposed to represent a certain someone.

        On the side note is how I thought Saber was going to win this one with her black Getsuga Tensho. Pretty ironic in the end, the card that was thought to be the most useless turned into the most powerful.

      • August 16, 2013 at 10:32 pmhaseo0408

        Talking about onii-chan, do you think Rin will get to meet Shirou in this story? It´d awsesome to see Illya acting all jelous.

      • August 16, 2013 at 10:36 pmbelatkuro

        Show Spoiler ▼

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:38 am†Croos†

      Since a remake of Fate/Stay Night by ufotable(the one who made Fate/Zero) is on the go.
      You have to wait.
      Source: https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/355709589787910145

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:57 amTheMoondoggie

        Oi, oi. Is this true? So are we gonna hear that “people die when they are killed” line? LOL.

      • August 17, 2013 at 5:14 pmhaseo0408

        Nobody knows if it´s a remake or the animation of the Heaven´s Feel scenario, I prefer to see Sakura´s story since it´s the most powerful emtionally speaking but a remake with the awesomeness of ufotable wouldn´t be bad at all.

  • August 16, 2013 at 6:30 pmflap

    Even watching it more than once I still get chills. I’ve never watched another anime that did that, this was truly epic.

  • August 16, 2013 at 6:31 pmxephx

    When I started this episode I was worried that Rin and Luvia where going to be the ones that defeated Saber, and I was already a bit disappointed that she wasn’t the last card. However by the end I had stars in my eyes at all the awesomeness that I had witnessed. With how awesome everything was and the Emiya Remix, I consider this one of the best fights of the year, who knew Illya would turn out more badass than Shirou.
    Here’s hopping the real final battle (who I’m guessing is Berserker)is just as awesome.

  • August 16, 2013 at 6:37 pmCybersteel

    I like the soundtrack. A remix of the good old fate stay night’s ost. I wonder if adding Kajiura’s battle music theme during the Archer X Saber fight would do anything :3

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:08 pmechykr

      Kajiura Yuki only contribution to the Fate franchise was with Fate Zero, not FSN, which are by different studios. Her other contribution to the Nasuverse is in Kara no Kyoukai.

    • August 16, 2013 at 11:03 pmCybersteel

      I meant this adding to to this.

  • August 16, 2013 at 6:55 pmSyaoran Li

    I knew this was coming all along, but DAMN… that thing was awesome.

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:05 pmechykr

    OMG, Illya-Archer UBW FTW! And Silver Link was even sensible enough to throw in a variation of the Archer theme song from Studio Deen’s FSN anime all those years ago for maximum satisfaction.

    Such is the strength of EMIYA’s UBW, that Illya-Archer’s copy Excalibur was able to defeat the real thing.

    If the rules of the Nasuverse still apply in this universe, then this Illya must also possess some sort of Grail-like properties, to enable her to subconsciously enter God Mode with all these Heroic Spirit Class Cards.

    PS Looking forward to seeing Illya-Archer cosplays.

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:21 pmbelatkuro

      The EMIYA OST came from the VN first. Kawai Kenji’s versions are still pretty good.

      Yeah, no. There are several reasons why Illya Archer was able to overpower Saber here but in truth, the real Archer will kill himself if he tried to pull off that feat. Plus the Excalibur that he has is technically not Excalibur but something similar to it.

      And this has always been Nasuverse. Everything is canon and these are still those characters. So yeah.

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:08 pmRadiosonde

    Emiya Kiritsugu will be proud that even his own daughter has her own “EMIYA” remix.

    This is 10x better than Studio Deen’s F/SN. This IS how Archer should’ve fought after all (It was said that Archer’s fighting style was more of a ‘dance’)

    Now I’m all the more excited for the potential season 2 (assuming they animate both 2wei and 3rei) Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:09 pm†Croos†

    I’ll just put this
    【Full Length】
    【Full Length】
    here <('.'<)
    Other full length like the Illya Exalibur, was really hard to merge. So I gave up.

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:10 pmAsmalti

    I dare those haters say that this is a ‘disgrace’ to Fate/Zero! I dare you now!
    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2006%20-%20Large%20End%20Card.jpg
    So badass. Period. Here’s hoping to season 2!

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:56 pmStilts

      Amen! It’s all the Fate badassery, but it doesn’t hate you quite so much.

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:30 amGilgamesh

      This faker is a disgrace!

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:23 pmbelatkuro

    Dat Excaliblast
    Dat seal breaking
    Dat Illya midriff Archer
    Dat UBW
    Dat Rho Aias
    Dat melee exchange
    Dat Kanshou and Bakuya Overedge
    Dat Caladbolg
    Dat double Excaliblast
    Dat new EMIYA OST remix
    Dat everything

    Best episode ever or best episode ever?

    • August 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm†Croos†

      @belatkuro
      I can’t recreate your gifs yet. It seems that puush is acting up.

    • August 16, 2013 at 11:02 pm†Croos†

      Here is your gif:
      GIF1
      GIF2
      GIF3
      GIF4

      If only SAO had awesome animation like this

      I think my puush will cry if I upload Exaclibaaaaaa scene!

      • August 17, 2013 at 7:09 amGermanguy

        This Camera shaking, has a side effect. To demonstrate the Force of the Impact, just to spice this all Up. It is indeed made very well. “Dance” and “Camera” worked here in perfect Symbiosis

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:07 amStilts

      Agreed on all counts. ‘Cept I’ll say one thing shamelessly – Dat midriff!

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:45 pmKai

    First Saber Alter
    Now Illya Archer …… Dat Gar
    Next………Show Spoiler ▼

    Damnit I want season 2/3!

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:49 pmRaila

    I consider this fight among my top 3 animated Fate series fight .
    1) Gilgamesh vs Rider
    2) THIS FIGHT
    3) Kiritsugu vs Kirei

    Studio Deen’s F/SN fights are just pure bad that I don’t consider the fights. UBW movie doesn’t count either.

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:12 amAizen

      Seriously, Gilgamesh vs. Rider? That fight was one-sided as hell. It was so boring.

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:24 amStilts

        It wasn’t the action, it was all about the style. It could only end one way, but seeing Broskander struggle against the ultimate tyrant, and even earn the villain’s honest respect? His last words to Waver? Miles and miles of style. Enough to conquer the world, or at least the hearts of any who hear of it.

        Iskander can’t move like Illya-chan though, that’s for sure!

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:33 amGilgamesh

        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

  • August 16, 2013 at 7:50 pm†Croos†

    Chills. I knew what was coming, and still I got chills. This battle was a thing of beauty.

    Actually Stilts, the TV version was better
    >More fighting frame
    >Much better Excalibur execution than Niconico

    so
    ||TO THOSE WHO WATCH THE NICONICO BROADCAST, RE-WATCH THE TV VERSION. THE QUALITY OF THE BATTLE IMPROVED A LOT.||

    • August 16, 2013 at 8:05 pmWanderer

      Really folks, I realize some of you are impatient, but do you really want your first impression of some awesome thing to be… well… less awesome than it’s actually supposed to be? Wait a bit, and rather than seeing it in a poor quality first and then later rewatching and saying “yeah that’s prettier, but I’ve already seen it” you can say “that is f***ing awesome!” the first time.

      This has been a pubic service announcement, reminding you that in the end, you only hurt yourself by watching niconico preairs. ;)

      • August 16, 2013 at 8:35 pm†Croos†

        Nah. It’s just the same feeling like watching TV version and waiting for the Blu-ray to appear.

        And even so. I just noticed that during this part(IMASINE) where the TV was airing it, after a few days they re-aired it in another channel and correct it(darn I already deleted the correct version :( ).
        So I bet they want feedbacks from Pre-air episode to lessen the error when they air it on sched and perfect it in the BDs.
        Though its really a pain in the ass in the budget side. So props to the animator.

      • August 16, 2013 at 8:37 pmFlareKnight

        In theory waiting for a better version makes perfect sense. See something at close to its best. At the same time the moment I heard “Archer Illya” there was no way I could wait a whole week to see this episode.

        I mean come on, something that awesome needs to be seen immediately. And I don’t think it’s impact was diminished. Watched it a dozen times on the low quality and will probably keep on watching now XD.

      • August 16, 2013 at 9:07 pm†Croos†

        It’s the technique:
        Spread the rumors/spoiler! We will get more viewers during the broadcast after this.
        It’s a marketing thing.

      • August 16, 2013 at 10:28 pm†Croos†

        Oh!
        I found it.
        The corrected IMASINE!

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:10 amStilts

      I always watch the TV airs – that’s why I post this on Fridays instead of the Saturday prior. Because yes, it’s way better this way. I’m the twisted kind of guy who can wait for months (or even years…herro, Evangelion movies!) to see something, so it’s easy for me to wait a mere 6 days for such better quality. I mean, look at that!!

  • August 16, 2013 at 8:09 pmWanderer

    I am very glad that these people had the good sense to break out an Emiya remix for this scene. Background music can make or break an action scene, and this was definitely the perfect choice.

  • August 16, 2013 at 8:28 pmMegu

    The ‘next episode’ preview looks very interesting.
    Miyu is so cute when she blushes! And in a maid outfit, at that!

  • August 16, 2013 at 8:35 pmbolton

    wow. watching this episode felt really special. the animation is top-notch and i’m glad to have been along for the ride. my only regret is not having watched or played stay night. i have a gist of what “tracing” does but i’m sure only a true fan would have felt the intended impact. still, i’m quite speechless as to how well the fight scenes were done.

    • August 16, 2013 at 8:41 pmbolton

      double-post: i’d really love to see a fighting game be fully adapted for the fate universe. there’s just so much raw material such a product could use. the PSP game currently out is all good but i’m sure an even bigger project that included characters even in the prisma illya universe would be absolutely mindblowing. i probably wouldn’t even care if it was balanced as long as i could watch archer illya fuck everything up.

      • August 17, 2013 at 3:42 amChaos_Alfa

        There is already a Fate fighting game, it is called Fate/Unlimited Codes.

        Here is some footage from it:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOUOJa1VWJ8

      • August 22, 2013 at 4:44 amLawrence Leong

        I play the other Fate fighting game…named Crucis Fatal Fake…
        Check it out cos it’s awesome!

  • August 16, 2013 at 8:59 pmKerfirou

    Wow, I know this battle is coming, but this is awesome.

    My only is about the shooting position
    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2006%20-%20Large%2028.jpg

    Does anybody else feels that the arrow position is should be at the other side?

    • August 16, 2013 at 9:06 pmbolton

      it seems intended. definitely adds to the edgy, cool, and over-the-top silliness factors, though i would not suggest it in real practice.

    • August 16, 2013 at 9:17 pmPtolemaios00

      She’s shooting a sword…perhaps that’s the proper technique for shooting a F-ing SWORD! Screw logic.

      • August 16, 2013 at 9:27 pmbolton

        … i wasn’t expecting sense to be made of it but damn. not sure if something so heavy that it needed to be supported by the back of her hand can fly that far so fast but we could probably take some liberties and say that’s how she missed, haha.

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:12 amStilts

        I was going to give a serious reply, but then I read this:

        She’s shooting a sword…perhaps that’s the proper technique for shooting a F-ing SWORD! Screw logic.

        XD Amen to that!

      • August 18, 2013 at 10:13 pmDorian

        As a guy who was taught how to fire a bow, Illya takes a normal bow stance before firing it. You can tell due to how her elbow is situated. If her hand was still in the same position, her elbow would actually be arched higher into the air. Hence, she re-positioned her fingers while drawing the sword arrow.

        Doesn’t make it any less cool though! I thought it actually made her more bad ass because she pulled back, marked the target and fired. All in one go.

    • August 19, 2013 at 11:42 pmRyuutobi

      Actually, what Illya uses there is the most common archery technique. Placing the arrow on the other side is the technique of japanese great bow.

  • August 16, 2013 at 9:14 pmPtolemaios00

    Goddamn wow! I forgot about this! All that’s missing is UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!! When Illya traced Overedge, I was totally just waiting for “I am the bone of my sword…”

    Show Spoiler ▼

    • August 16, 2013 at 9:21 pmPtolemaios00

      Also, I think this one episode was better than the entire freaking UBW Movie…

  • August 16, 2013 at 9:24 pmewok40k

    it is decided, im picking up the series…
    was initially not exactly into srsbzns of Fate universe being moe-ified but even Iskander himself would love the epicness of the battles – if I can believe the reports!

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:13 amStilts

      Told ya : ) (Sorry, couldn’t resist!) And yes, you can believe them. This…this was stunning. And it’s not over yet.

      • August 18, 2013 at 2:55 amewok40k

        6 episodes later, I might quote Ilya from ep o1… maybe marathoning netire season 1 was not such good idea… /dizzy

      • August 18, 2013 at 10:08 amStilts

        Bwahahaha! Too much Illya moe in one sitting? There are worse ways to knock yourself out. You’ll be fine ; )

  • August 16, 2013 at 10:05 pmqwert

    After the double Excalibur I had the urge to go back to and watch episode 15 of Zero, that scene still gives me the tingles.

  • August 16, 2013 at 10:11 pmVaans

    Awesome episode. The fight was intense, totally awesome and -

    http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2006%20-%20Large%20Preview%2002.jpg
    HHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!

    …my heart. *dies*

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:14 amStilts

      Meido Miyu is among my top 5 favorite Miyus :3

      • August 17, 2013 at 4:30 amVaan

        So who’s the other four?

      • August 17, 2013 at 7:40 amMasterDragonKnight

        Knowing Stilts-oniichan, something like this:

        5. Meido Miyu
        4. Swimsuit Miyu
        3. Bunny-girl Miyu
        2. Miyu x Illya
        1. Miyu x Stilts

      • August 17, 2013 at 10:47 amStilts

        ^ Correct. I actually hadn’t mapped it out myself, but those are definitely the right options! Though probably meido Miyu would be around #3…I like meido Miyu :3

      • August 18, 2013 at 11:06 pmUngas123

        Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 16, 2013 at 10:15 pmSeorori

    I was waiting to read your recaps on this all week, haha. I was really happy with this episode.
    I just re-watch the TV version, and realized that I was gaping through all the fight scenes. Watching the edited version is a MUST !

    PS. love the episode’s end card. Archerya’s so attractive. <3

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:31 amMasterDragonKnight

      Fun fact, the artist for the end card this week is Himura Kiseki, the artist for the doujin series Sword Dancers, featuring Archer-ko.

      If you have not read the doujins, it is really, really epic.

      • August 17, 2013 at 10:48 amStilts

        Oh wow–reading this immediately.

      • August 17, 2013 at 2:46 pmMasterDragonKnight

        Specifically, Sword Dancers chapters 2 and beyond, which details the struggles of Archer-ko while she was alive. Here is an example of the epicness, without spoiling anything.

        By the way, Archer-ko is not a genderswapped Archer, if you are wondering. She is an entirely different person. You have to find out who on your own.

  • August 16, 2013 at 11:00 pmCybersteel

    I am the seal of my vessel,
    Grail is my body and berzerkar is my blood,
    I have died in thousands of routes,
    Unknown to good ends,
    Nor known to have a route,
    Having withstood apathy to create to have her own spinoff,
    Yet these hands will not hold oniichan,
    So as I pray, Unlimited Illya Works!

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:05 amc2710

      I WAS expecting for Archer to read that out loud

  • August 16, 2013 at 11:01 pmUngas

    Excalibur/Morgan: Sword of Promised Victory(Saber Alter) vs. Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory(Archer-Illya). Illya won despite her Excalibur a lower quality because she had hax on her..

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:00 amGoXDS

      yea, while I was watching the scene, I was thinking “they’re breaking all the Fate/stay night rules!”
      corrupted Servants in F/S N are generally stronger but lower defense (more specifically magic resistance, which contradicts the aura field Fate/kaleid had)
      as someone mentioned earlier, Hero EMIYA wouldn’t be able to pull such a tactic off as Tracing Excalibur cause that’d be a suicide attack. plus it should be a degraded version and thus should not beat the real thing. plus, Rho Aias wouldn’t be able to easily defend against an Excalibur blast, especially since it’s not a projectile.

      not that it detracted from the gar+moe. my explanation is just this is a different “world” and thus the corruption here isn’t the same. this Saber’s Excalibur isn’t completely real either. this would explain Rho Aias and non-suicidal trace; however, this still leaves the problem of a traced weapon beating the “original”

      or, follow Illya’s example. Don’t Think. Imagine!

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:17 amStilts

        Two things to keep in mind: 1) Illya’s “special circumstances” can upend quite a lot of the rules, and 2) the cards are not necessarily the same as the corrupted servants. Hell, they could be, I don’t know if they are or not myself, but either of those (or both) are good reasons why Illya should have won.

        Also, garmoe Illya > scary awesome Saber. Barely.

      • August 17, 2013 at 4:43 ambelatkuro

        Correction about Rho Aias. It technically can block Excalibur.
        Rho Aias was able to block Gil’s Enuma Elish in the UBW route of the VN, though Gil was severely holding back there. Nevertheless, Shirou was unhurt after that and it means Rho Aias can block beam attacks.
        The problem would be if Archer can withstand it. Any damage that Rho Aias takes, it’s reflected to the user’s body. He actually received a lot of damage when he tried to block Gae Bolg’s Death Flight version(the spear being thrown) and its rank is B+. Excalibur is A++.

        And like I said above, Archer can trace something similar to Excalibur. It just won’t be considered Excalibur as some inherent parts of the blade is different since Excalibur still has divine elements not of this world like with Ea.
        The thing about him being unable to pull this off is not because he is unable to trace Excalibur, but because the heavy prana usage of the Excaliblast will kill him. That’s where Illya comes in but that’s another story.

      • August 17, 2013 at 7:46 amFraye

        Am I only one that see things like this?

        “Everything here uses mana (prana). Saber block Rin and the other magical girl’s supposedly killing attack. End result was her losing ALL HER ARMORS (which is sustained and made by prana). 0.9 Excalibur(copy) times Ilya’s full mana > 1.0 Excalibur (Sword of promised victory) times 0.4 (or even less) Saber’s mana.”

        Excalibur is a skill that can be extended for extra destructive power by pouring additional prana into it.

      • August 17, 2013 at 10:51 amStilts

        So basically, Illya won because she has a way bigger mana pool? Sounds about right to me.

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:48 amGermanguy

      Btw, is this “Trace on”, some kind of Copycat Skill? Like Saskues Eye Ninja Skill?

      • August 17, 2013 at 8:03 amFraye

        Trace on = a mode where one traces the origin of something, how it was made, what it is and what composes it. I am not sure, but as far as I can remember, archer’s “trace on” is not an act of copying something yet. It was like determining what something is as a whole. Archer uses a different skill after tracing to recreate what he/she has traced.

      • August 17, 2013 at 8:39 ambelatkuro

        Half correct.
        “Trace on” is just the chant Shirou(and Archer) uses in order to use Tracing. It’s kind of like a spell word. Tracing is the skill/magecraft itself to create the weapon that includes its shape, size, properties and entire history. There is no process to copy a weapon. Once they are able to see the weapon, its blueprint is stored in UBW already because that’s how UBW works. They just need to pull it out via Tracing.

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:02 amflap

        My understanding is that Archer/Shirou’s ability is a reality marble, which is overwriting the real world with the contents of your mind. UBW is a total overwrite, whereas summoning a weapon is just a tiny one. What he’s doing is along the lines of sorcery, not magic (magic has a cost, prana. Sorcery is above the rules). If it was magic, he’d be transferring one form of substance (prana) into another (an object), and the result would be a weak object that isn’t permanent. This is why he was taught to do strengthening (add prana to something existing to make it stronger) instead of ‘projection’ (make something using prana) but what he was doing wasn’t projection, it was his reality marble thing. The stuff Shirou makes is permanent, like the collection of stuff he’s made in his shed, which means he created new matter rather than just used prana.

      • August 18, 2013 at 9:54 amUngas

        Yes and No. The Unlimited Blade Works is an endless factory producing weapons and compendium of blueprint of EMIYA’s encounter on different weapons during his life time. A successfully identified weapon can be produced and stored on his Reality Marble and is only projected on real world when ever he requires it. A projected weapon becomes 100% proficiency to the user while a destroyed projected weapon can be reprojected as long as he has stock on it on his Reality Marble. However, there are limitations on what he can successfully produce.

        1. Weapons can be only successfully produced if the materials required on making is found on earth. Therefore weapons made from space and other planets, from another plane or from another dimension can’t be reproduced. Ea, Gil’s Ultimate Weapon could never be reproduce. However it does not stop EMIYA(Shirou and Archer) from identifying it. That is why Shirou won against Gilgamesh on UBW route.

        2. Legendary Earth weapons such as Excalibur can be reproduced. However it will always be a quality lower compared to the original and it requires a lot of prana which is normally used as a suicide attack. Archer’s Excalibur will always never win against Saber/Alter’s Excalibur/Morgan and “die” afterwards on normal circumstances. Ilya won and lived cause she had hax from the start.
        —–
        Wait… Excalibur shouldn’t be able to be produced on normal circumstances despite having UBW… It was only possible because of Excalibur’s scabard was stored inside Shirou’s body.
        —–
        Ilya-Archer does not actually need to see the Saber Alter’s Excalibur/Morgan. The card already knows about it.
        —–
        Won’t it be cool and ironic as well if Ilya-Archer does Nine Lives Blade Works?
        —–
        Rho Arias is a shield and can be reproduced despite it not being a blade. Probably EMIYA took considerable time to analyze it since it was outside his Origin of Sword.

  • August 17, 2013 at 12:49 aminanis

    she went all hax on on corrupted saber!

    but wow.. she is moe..and can kick ass omg !

    reallllllllly impressive episode.. previe is nice tho..lol maids. i bet the Einzbern will complain.

    PS: .. that uniform looks 100% better on Illya than on her brother lol.

    PS: mmm mmmmhm .. gives Archer is the future Shiro.. did he just “installed” her own brother? … lol good hes never gonna get to see her in hax mode.

  • August 17, 2013 at 12:56 amBlazaking

    When Illya went into Archer mode, I was just like “Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit omg oh shit” the whole time. Totally didn’t expect that; I was blown away. And then she did Excalibur and it was like “ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shiiiiiitt!”

    • August 17, 2013 at 1:18 amStilts

      Which is the correct reaction!

  • August 17, 2013 at 1:47 amHalfDemonInuyasha

    GAR + moe? Why of course the answer must be MOAR!!!! XD

    • August 17, 2013 at 2:22 am†Croos†

      ^WHY ISN’T THIS GUY GETTING ATTENTION!
      I LIKE HIS IDEA!

    • August 17, 2013 at 4:01 amMasterDragonKnight

      That is the single best comment I have read all week.

    • August 17, 2013 at 10:53 amStilts

      Fourthed!

    • August 17, 2013 at 12:11 pmGilgamesh

      lel

    • August 18, 2013 at 1:47 pmKyosuke

      I’m hopping on the bandwagon for this one too!!

    • August 18, 2013 at 10:20 pmDorian

      I personally was thinking

      MOEGAR~!

  • August 17, 2013 at 2:32 amTheMoondoggie

    If Illya can trace/use any Noble Phantasm, because HAX and FUTURE REVEALS, just think how broken she is in the Fate lore, officially:

    >Summons Ioian Hetaroi
    >Summons GoB
    >equip each servant with the treasures from GoB
    >proceed curbstomp

    Or

    >Swordspam using UBW and GoB

    • August 17, 2013 at 5:02 ambelatkuro

      Uh, no.
      Ionioi Hetairoi is a Reality Marble so it can’t be traced. It’s the manifestation of Broskander’s dreams and philosophies.
      Although Gate of Babylon is actually a key shaped sword and grants access to Gil’s treasury, I doubt Archer or Illya Archer can access those as they’re not him. It can probably only be used by him. I also doubt it can be traced perfectly as it might probably be the same as Ea that has properties that cannot be replicated.
      Also, UBW can only trace weapons and only those Archer himself has seen and has placed inside it. He cannot trace what he did not see or what he cannot comprehend.

      • August 18, 2013 at 8:42 amUngas

        Actually… Show Spoiler ▼

  • August 17, 2013 at 2:40 amewok40k

    Quote:
    >Summons Ioian Hetaroi
    >Summons GoB
    >equip each servant with the treasures from GoB
    >proceed curbstomp

    that would be EPIC curbstomp… shudder…

  • August 17, 2013 at 3:31 amricz

    I read the manga of fate/kaleid and I must say that it’s… the most entertaining of fate series (maybe bec. illya live lolz)

    Can’t wait to see the new fate by ufo
    and I hope to see s2 and s3(my fave season of the manga) of fate/kaleid

  • August 17, 2013 at 3:46 amgawrshness

    To be honest I was expecting Illya to start chanting the Unlimited Blade Works when she went into Archer mode. Especially since she also started using pretty much every weapon Archer used against Berserker in their fight aside from the actual UBW. Speaking of which with Illya learning this are we having a reenactment of Archer vs Berserker now? Considering that we have all cards but 1 captured and only 6 episodes in I’m guessing Berserker is gonna take several episodes and several encounters since we know what his Noble Phantasm is no?
    I still wanted a docile, well spoken Berserker though since it’s supposed to be ‘out of control’ while the actual Berserker class is out of control itself.

    Man badass Illya mode was awesome!

    • August 17, 2013 at 10:57 amStilts

      Wrong-o! You forgot about Assassin.

      Also, I think her actually chanting UBW would have interrupted the flow of the battle too much. It worked really well when it was mostly movement and all of us with our jaws dropped, too much talking might have gotten in the way.

      Not that I wouldn’t mind seeing a version where she chants it, just to see if I’m right or not… :D

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:05 amflap

        Poor Assassin.

      • August 17, 2013 at 2:11 pmgawrshness

        OH RIGHT! I did feel someone was missing. Still the same Kojirou assassin? Based on the fact that they kept emphasizing that, that guy was a fake spirit because his summoner was a servant I can’t see him being a ‘canon’ Heroic spirit. Well stlits bro Archer chanting the UBW didn’t really interrupt the butt kicking he gave Berserker, though yeah I guess it wouldn’t have been as epic hearing a little girl chant it.

        What I wanted to happen was seeing Saber say something to be honest, other than Excalibur. Since she was all special and all in the other Fate series though her out of control state would have been special too other than be extremely overpowered. But in the end you were right the fight was a doozy, and seeing Saber get mauled by the pure version of her own Noble Phantasm performed by a little girl was an epic moment in anime history.

      • August 17, 2013 at 3:00 pmCybersteel

        Looks like they’re gonna use the True Assasin judging from OP.

  • August 17, 2013 at 3:47 amigniteous

    I loved the episode, it was fantastic. But I’m confused on what the lock breaking was about. Is it something to be revealed or am I missing a connection. I’ve read the v/n, watched f/s and f/z. Either way, my jaw hit the floor and I was in the zone when Ilya went heroic.

    • August 17, 2013 at 4:25 amAndmeuths

      There is something locked inside this Illya. Now, if you read the VN and Watched FSN and FZ, you should be able to come to a fairly close guess as to what that is.

      • August 17, 2013 at 5:19 amigniteous

        I must be really dense. The only thing that popped in my mind from your statement is something that really really shouldn’t be inside of her. I know that really it was light before it became black because of bad people, but it couldn’t be that, could it? Anyway, thanks for the hint. ;)

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:15 amStilts

        As I said to Germanguy below, if you known Fate/stay night, you should be able to figure out the answer. She’s still Illya, after all.

  • August 17, 2013 at 4:00 amMasterDragonKnight

    That’s how real mahou shoujo do. Full power, total annihilation!

    Zenryoku Zenkai! STARLIGHT EXCALIBUR!!!

    Here is a relevant picture too.

    “Anata wa watashi no Tomodachi ka?”

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:08 amc2710

      All enemies tremble before Saber Nanoha

    • August 17, 2013 at 11:00 amStilts

      Now that’s one awesome Include :D I love how, in a show full of Nanoha-style magical girls, even Saber gets in on the action. Full power every time!!

  • August 17, 2013 at 4:52 amGrant

    I’ll agree that Ilya’s fight itself was excellently set up and animated, but I have to disagree on the part with Rin and Luvia. Because of how it was set up in the previous episode and this one we all know exactly how it’s going to play out. Rin and Luvia do something impressive that shows how more experienced they are, they argue a bit and talk about how the fight’s done, the enemy turns out to be just fine, Rin and Luvia get beaten up and maybe even killed (even though we all know they’re fine) and the main character saves the day. I’m sorry, but when the audience knows how it will go down to the smallest details there isn’t much tension.

    What saves this episode is Ilya’s fight. That’s the draw to watch the episode, that’s what keeps us watching and that’s what we’ll remember afterwards.

    • August 17, 2013 at 11:04 amStilts

      For a little context from the manga, the first part of this episode was actually at the end of a manga chapter, so the false climax worked much better – with only a few more pages left in the chapter, it seemed like Rin and Luvia could do it, only for Saber to still be alive and nuke the hell out of them. Like I said, the necessity of covering three manga chapters in two episodes (which is an odd stretch to make) made for some less that ideal pacing, and that’s one example.

      I do think that Illya’s fight was amazing enough that it wasn’t really diminished by spoilers. I mean, I knew exactly what was going to happen and it still gave me chills! Like I said, it’s not whether it’s original (nothing really is), it’s whether it’s done well, and this was done really, really well : )

  • August 17, 2013 at 5:06 amnagi

    I totally dropped this at episode 3 but I saw Stilts’ caption for this and was quite intrigued to give it another try. Oh Stilts you don’t know how thankful I am for your very appropriate caption! Plus I’m happy that I got to marathon 3 episodes because the cliffhangers from the past episodes would’ve killed me! :)

    • August 17, 2013 at 11:06 amStilts

      I’m glad to hear that! I knew this show would probably get a bit underestimated as too “cutesy” and “not serious enough” early on, so I was waiting for this episode (and later) to see if people tuned back in. I’m really happy to see that apparently, more people have!

  • August 17, 2013 at 5:28 amlauncelot

    I think I’ve made my point in an earlier post that this is basically a Fate flavor with a different approach. New painting using the same set of tools to tell a story. But I’m really surprised they mixed the two totally different things together.
    Ilya + Archer = MAGIC
    They combined badassery with moe madness and they got me squealing under soft pillows for more.

    • August 17, 2013 at 11:07 amStilts

      A great way to put it. A good spin-off takes the same setting and explores a different area, or tells a different story in a slightly different way. In other words, what Prisma Illya is doing. And what a beautiful painting it is.

  • August 17, 2013 at 6:52 amGermanguy

    I just say this…

    *clap clap clap clap* Awesome, thank you

    Until now, i was thinking of Moe, Loli Magic Girl thing Anime… But this Episode teach me better..
    You Guys suprised me, in the good way. More, i want more

    (just a Quote of my Last comment)

    • August 17, 2013 at 6:53 amGermanguy

      With “more” i do not mean more Action, More everything. Just try to stay on this level now. i know this is a question of Budget, too

      :)

  • August 17, 2013 at 7:09 amc2710

    Mind blown

    Just mind blown

    Its by SILVERLINK and my body can’t take it. If its by Ufotable…. My body would explode

    I’d rather have Illya as Illya Archer. Looks MUCH more hotter and cuter.

    Plus, reverse trap anyone?

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:12 amGermanguy

      Uh, if She was Archer. Then i would Die to see here merge with Sabre/Knight Spirit

    • August 17, 2013 at 11:11 amStilts

      Ufotable is great, but I honestly don’t know if they could have done much better. Personally I rank Silver Link at their level, except they don’t always seem to have the insane budgets that Ufotable does, which makes what they do (including their directing, casting, pacing, & everything else) even more impressive to me.

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:32 pmc2710

        I’d say that SILVERLINK’s SHAFT’s protoge.

        Maybe because of its earlier works being SHAFT style?

      • August 18, 2013 at 10:13 amStilts

        SHAFT has way too unique of a style for me to say that personally. I just can’t imagine anyone being SHAFT other than SHAFT.

  • August 17, 2013 at 7:15 amGermanguy

    a side Joke: http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2006%20-%2007.jpg

    Hero Spirits, can work “Bible” Wonders, like Moses. That Split the Ocean in two, to cross it :)

  • August 17, 2013 at 7:24 amGinobi666

    -watched the episode 2 days ago
    -reads randomc.net review
    -rewatches the episode

  • August 17, 2013 at 7:44 amGermanguy

    Okay, with this Picture http://randomc.net/image/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya/Fate%20kaleid%20liner%20Prisma%20Illya%20-%2006%20-%20Large%2014.jpg

    What Secret is inside her? is about to become a “red line”? :) But dont push it to far in the Main line. Let us Enjoy the Spirit Merge Fights, too

    • August 17, 2013 at 7:46 amGermanguy

      oh, No. I do not know the Manga, and do not know it now. I just only know the 1 Fate Anime here, and the Screenshots.

      please dont put Spoilers, i can not resist to click on them :)

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:09 amStilts

        If you known Fate/stay night, you should still be able to figure out the answer. She’s still Illya, after all.

      • August 17, 2013 at 1:33 pmGermanguy

        *Psst*

        I know, but are this Anime playing the same rules here?
        It was this Fate Anime i saw.

      • August 17, 2013 at 2:40 pminanis

        they diverge from the fate/stay night(-UBW / -Heavens Feel) plot before the 5th grail war… at that point Illya was still gonna be the grail vessel.. soo since there were never summoned servants on PRISMA dimension (they actually stopped both the Einzbern and the GW if i understand it correctly) .. you can guess were all that mana went (or where it didnt go!) xD .. is specially telling that Iri KNOWS about it… so i guess all those trips she and Kiri do are related to that reason.

        What i dont get is who is Miyu .. i mean is she just an AU character? or someone we actually know from the fate dimension (with changed name)? i mean..she is totally cool in combat lol

        PS: i need to get a copy of that manga.. is fully translated?

        PS2: i must have missed the info in the first episodes .. but what are the class cards? i mean they are from other dimension (in PRYSMA dimension the GW never happened…and they have to use dimensional magic to travel wherever the cards are) .. but what are they? mm gonna go re-watch the first episodes!

      • August 17, 2013 at 3:06 pmCybersteel

        Miyu Edelfelt is a character from Fate Hollow Atraxia I think? Edelfelt was on of the magics family participating in the 5th Grail War.

      • August 17, 2013 at 9:12 pmbelatkuro

        Wrong on both accounts, Cyber.
        The Edelfelts participated in the 3rd war, not the 5th. They didn’t have a candidate for the 5th as it was an impromptu war.
        Second, no, Miyu isn’t from FHA. She’s a new character introduced that’s not from any franchise. Anymore and it’s spoilers though.

      • August 17, 2013 at 11:36 pmCybersteel

        Only played the first hour :/ partial patch

      • August 18, 2013 at 10:15 amStilts

        Also, remember that Miyu isn’t the only Edelfelt in this series. More on that in upcoming episodes, in case you’ve forgotten.

      • August 18, 2013 at 3:16 pminanis

        she only too the surname tho…

        Luvia said “i found her” .. lol make me think of someone taking a stray cat home xD

  • August 17, 2013 at 8:18 amMelissa

    mr slits have you noticed the lack of male rivals in magical girl shows lately

    • August 17, 2013 at 8:20 amGermanguy

      If it is Male “Eyecandy” you lack, then go watch “Free” :)

  • August 17, 2013 at 10:52 amMisk

    Daaamn. I started watching this series today, watched all 6 episodes in one go. I love how they balance out the serious and comedy moments. So much nostalgia with this episode though!

  • August 17, 2013 at 2:26 pmleatherhead333

    I honestly haven’t had many good things to say about this show until now. Very good fight (though it was predictable Illya would get some crazy power up at some point. HOORAY FOR STANDARD SHOUNEN FORMULAS!)

    I hope Saber comes back though :(

  • August 17, 2013 at 3:52 pmJhacks

    I feel bad for studio deen.

  • August 17, 2013 at 5:21 pmrandom viewer

    Oh ho this just opened up more power-ups and use of the cards for the shojo girls.

  • August 17, 2013 at 11:26 pmSeiba

    Along with the EMIYA/Sword of Promised Victory remix, I loved the remixed segment of ‘Trapped Thoughts’ from the F/SN VN at the end of the episode where Miyu carries Ilya off.

    Got hit hard by nostalgia.

    • August 19, 2013 at 3:48 amJHN

      As soon as that started playing I was instantly like “Hey! I remember hearing this in the VN.”. It followed with me being all :)

  • August 18, 2013 at 2:05 pmOverMaster

    “where it looked like Rin and Luvia finished it in one blast only to have them apparently die, is a great way to dial up the tension.”

    Because God forbid the secondary characters from EVER doing the finisher move to actually save the day.

    • August 19, 2013 at 3:50 pmStilts

      Hah! Well, that’s fun sometimes, but in this case it’s more like “god forbid the MENTORS ever do the finishing move” etc etc. Secondary characters can have their day in the sun, but mentors are usually there to teach and possibly die (Obi-Wan!!). I mean, what fun would it be if they walked around curbstomping everyone with their superior power and experience?

  • August 18, 2013 at 4:22 pmKyosuke

    Illya has overtaken Saber as my favorite Fate char +_+

  • August 19, 2013 at 2:55 amThe Hamzter

    tolly agree this weeks episode is just plain awesome, nothing tops Excalibur vs Excalibur and Dammmm i bet even Dark Saber was surprised on how fast Illya can move.

  • August 19, 2013 at 3:34 amHelrouis

    The moment that burst of mana came after she said “Install”, it echoed through the rest of the ongoing anime series, I’m pretty sure even Shingeki no Kyojin characters even felt it :))
    That’s how epic it is.

  • August 19, 2013 at 7:42 amKairoru

    Best.FightingScene.Ever.

    Archer Illya ftw!

  • August 20, 2013 at 7:57 pmBraveSong

    I take back everything I thought last week about Ilya being weak and not fit to be a hero.

    This fight jumps to the top tier of battles in the Fate Universe right next to Kiritsugu vs. Kotomine near the end of fate zero.

  • August 21, 2013 at 2:30 pmMelissa

    I mean the lack of male characters having prominent roles in magical girl series